MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: MF.....u are on a ROLL. I'm laughing so hard I can hardly breathe.....now stop it. Dawg, I can ONLY call it how I see it! You know I don't fake the funk! The funny part is.....I don't even like Mj. | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Dawg, I can ONLY call it how I see it! You know I don't fake the funk! The funny part is.....I don't even like Mj. Cmon, dawg. You KNOW I ain't EVER gonna buy that shit! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: The funny part is.....I don't even like Mj. Cmon, dawg. You KNOW I ain't EVER gonna buy that shit! I'm serious. | |
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MuthaFunka said: Adisa said: Historically and fundamentally, the nature of the game is simple: get the ball to the center and the team with the better center is the better team. This is the reason why Jordan will be the GOAT. Of course there are lots of GOATs in the herd, including Kobe, but Jordan is the GOAT and will remain so until another go-to player can dominate the way he did WITHOUT a dominating big man at center. He changed the entire scope of the game! In fact, name one team that didn’t have a dominating (not necessarily the best) big-man at the time that won any championships. All I can think of is the Bad Boys, and for their tactics they deserve asterisks by their titles. Still, they didn’t dominate an entire decade the way Jordan’s Bulls did. Sure, it’s a team sport. BJ, Pippen, Horace, Tony, Kerr, etc. were as good as another supporting cast in the NBA. They played their respective roles well.
You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. The way to the finals is through the conference. And don't forget that the third title MJ won in his conference the Knicks were the number 1 seed, with the supposedly best center in the game. That proved untrue the following year, though, as you already know. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: The funny part is.....I don't even like Mj. Cmon, dawg. You KNOW I ain't EVER gonna buy that shit! I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Cmon, dawg. You KNOW I ain't EVER gonna buy that shit! I'm serious. Whatever you say, dawg! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Adisa said: Historically and fundamentally, the nature of the game is simple: get the ball to the center and the team with the better center is the better team. This is the reason why Jordan will be the GOAT. Of course there are lots of GOATs in the herd, including Kobe, but Jordan is the GOAT and will remain so until another go-to player can dominate the way he did WITHOUT a dominating big man at center. He changed the entire scope of the game! In fact, name one team that didn’t have a dominating (not necessarily the best) big-man at the time that won any championships. All I can think of is the Bad Boys, and for their tactics they deserve asterisks by their titles. Still, they didn’t dominate an entire decade the way Jordan’s Bulls did. Sure, it’s a team sport. BJ, Pippen, Horace, Tony, Kerr, etc. were as good as another supporting cast in the NBA. They played their respective roles well.
You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. Now, the ONLY NBA Finals matchup I wish would have happened was: Hakeem's Rockets vs MJ's Bulls. THAT would have ended a ton of speculation on both sides. Honestly, I think Dream's team would have beaten MJ's squad simply because MJ's Bulls either won it in 5 or 6 games (mainly 6 though), and that was against WEAK centers. I don't see anyone stopping Dream while I do see MJ vs Drex causing MJ to extend himself on the defensive end, IF Drex takes the battle personal unlike he did when they faced in the 92 Finals. There is great possibility that Hakeem & The Houston Rockets would have beating MJ & Bulls in the '95 NBA Finals (when Clyle was in Houston at the time). But MJ & The Bulls would have been the Rockets in the '94 NBA Finals. Hakeem would have done his thing against all three of the Bulls' centers (despite those centers having 18 defensive fouls to give). But Jordan/BJ/Paxson would have killed Vernon Maxwell/Kenny Smith/Sam Cassell in the back court battle. And if Robert Horry would have try to play defense against Jordan, Pippen would have stole the show with his shooting performance. | |
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MuthaFunka said: You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. Now, the ONLY NBA Finals matchup I wish would have happened was: Hakeem's Rockets vs MJ's Bulls. THAT would have ended a ton of speculation on both sides. Honestly, I think Dream's team would have beaten MJ's squad simply because MJ's Bulls either won it in 5 or 6 games (mainly 6 though), and that was against WEAK centers. I don't see anyone stopping Dream while I do see MJ vs Drex causing MJ to extend himself on the defensive end, IF Drex takes the battle personal unlike he did when they faced in the 92 Finals. So what happened 2 the centers that u speak of? Where was Hakeem for the Bulls 6 titles? Last I checked, the Bulls BEAT the Knicks, the Pacers, the Heat, the Cavs ....all had GOOD centers. | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. Now, the ONLY NBA Finals matchup I wish would have happened was: Hakeem's Rockets vs MJ's Bulls. THAT would have ended a ton of speculation on both sides. Honestly, I think Dream's team would have beaten MJ's squad simply because MJ's Bulls either won it in 5 or 6 games (mainly 6 though), and that was against WEAK centers. I don't see anyone stopping Dream while I do see MJ vs Drex causing MJ to extend himself on the defensive end, IF Drex takes the battle personal unlike he did when they faced in the 92 Finals. So what happened 2 the centers that u speak of? Where was Hakeem for the Bulls 6 titles? Last I checked, the Bulls BEAT the Knicks, the Pacers, the Heat, the Cavs ....all had GOOD centers. I already alluded to this a few posts ago. I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Adisa said: MuthaFunka said: You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. The way to the finals is through the conference. And don't forget that the third title MJ won in his conference the Knicks were the number 1 seed, with the supposedly best center in the game. That proved untrue the following year, though, as you already know. Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Adisa said: The way to the finals is through the conference. And don't forget that the third title MJ won in his conference the Knicks were the number 1 seed, with the supposedly best center in the game. That proved untrue the following year, though, as you already know. Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. Ohh larwrd..... | |
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MuthaFunka said: Adisa said: The way to the finals is through the conference. And don't forget that the third title MJ won in his conference the Knicks were the number 1 seed, with the supposedly best center in the game. That proved untrue the following year, though, as you already know. Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. Didn't the Bull SWEEP the NBA Champions 2 start their run? U bugging..... | |
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TonyVanDam said: MuthaFunka said: You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. Now, the ONLY NBA Finals matchup I wish would have happened was: Hakeem's Rockets vs MJ's Bulls. THAT would have ended a ton of speculation on both sides. Honestly, I think Dream's team would have beaten MJ's squad simply because MJ's Bulls either won it in 5 or 6 games (mainly 6 though), and that was against WEAK centers. I don't see anyone stopping Dream while I do see MJ vs Drex causing MJ to extend himself on the defensive end, IF Drex takes the battle personal unlike he did when they faced in the 92 Finals. There is great possibility that Hakeem & The Houston Rockets would have beating MJ & Bulls in the '95 NBA Finals (when Clyle was in Houston at the time). But MJ & The Bulls would have been the Rockets in the '94 NBA Finals. Hakeem would have done his thing against all three of the Bulls' centers (despite those centers having 18 defensive fouls to give). But Jordan/BJ/Paxson would have killed Vernon Maxwell/Kenny Smith/Sam Cassell in the back court battle. And if Robert Horry would have try to play defense against Jordan, Pippen would have stole the show with his shooting performance. Yes, the 94 Houston team would have had a harder time because they didn't have anyone to offset the scoring of MJ. The 95 team - I think wins it in 6 or 7, simply because MJ's Bulls never disposed of Center-less teams in less than 5, so I don't see how in the hell could they even beat the reigning MVP AND DPOY Hakeem and his merry men. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: You're dead-on: The game is won from the paint. However, MJ never faced a dominant center in the NBA Finals: Vlade Divac/Kevin Duckworth/Mark West/Jim McIlvaine/Greg Ostertag. WEAK. Very weak group of centers. Now, the ONLY NBA Finals matchup I wish would have happened was: Hakeem's Rockets vs MJ's Bulls. THAT would have ended a ton of speculation on both sides. Honestly, I think Dream's team would have beaten MJ's squad simply because MJ's Bulls either won it in 5 or 6 games (mainly 6 though), and that was against WEAK centers. I don't see anyone stopping Dream while I do see MJ vs Drex causing MJ to extend himself on the defensive end, IF Drex takes the battle personal unlike he did when they faced in the 92 Finals. So what happened 2 the centers that u speak of? Where was Hakeem for the Bulls 6 titles? Last I checked, the Bulls BEAT the Knicks, the Pacers, the Heat, the Cavs ....all had GOOD centers. GOOD doesn't equal DOMINANT. The ONLY 2 dominant centers on that list - Ewing and Zo. Smits NOT dominant. Brad Freakin' Daugherty NOT dominant. And I addressed the Ewing/Zo in my above posts. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. Ohh larwrd..... LOL! You hate it when I just utterly bang on your boy MJ with the TRUTH, don't you! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Adisa said: The way to the finals is through the conference. And don't forget that the third title MJ won in his conference the Knicks were the number 1 seed, with the supposedly best center in the game. That proved untrue the following year, though, as you already know. Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. I'm speechless..... | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. Didn't the Bull SWEEP the NBA Champions 2 start their run? U bugging..... Yep. And the youngest player in their main rotation was 27 - Dumars. It's all there in the post, playa! Read up! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: So what happened 2 the centers that u speak of? Where was Hakeem for the Bulls 6 titles? Last I checked, the Bulls BEAT the Knicks, the Pacers, the Heat, the Cavs ....all had GOOD centers. GOOD doesn't equal DOMINANT. The ONLY 2 dominant centers on that list - Ewing and Zo. Smits NOT dominant. Brad Freakin' Daugherty NOT dominant. And I addressed the Ewing/Zo in my above posts. If Hakeem was so dominate, why didn't he make the finals at least ONCE in the 6 years that the Bulls were there? | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Right, and then people always bring up the conference he played to get to the Finals, to which I then bring out this truism: For 5 of his 6 titles, MJ NEVER faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it like he had with Pippen. There was JUST Ewing. There was JUST Zo (IF he even makes the HOF). There was JUST Reggie (IF he makes the HOF). There was JUST Shaq. The ONLY time he faced a team that had 2 HOFers on it was when he faced the Pistons (Zeke and Dumars - And Dumars shouldn't be in the HOF IMHO.) and by that time the Pistons were just about done with their run due to age. The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime until 2004. MJ's path to the Finals was the easiest of any multi-title winning team ever. I'm speechless..... Because you KNOW you can't dispute ANY of that shit! THAT'S why you're speechless, dawg! It IS what it IS!: 1 - During their title runs, the Bulls never faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it sans the aging Pistons in 90-91 playoffs. 2 - The east was weak (and still is) when the Bulls made their title runs, because whenever the Bulls DIDN'T play in the Finals, the west ALWAYS won up until 2004. Dawg, you KNOW you can't fuck with me on this shit! Just admit it! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime That's a bit contradictory, ain't it? Still,so the West was weak when Bill was winning like a mofo, and the East was weak winning The Lakers were winning, and everybody was weak when the Spurs won their first championship in the shortened season!! Alright, cuz, let's go have a few drinks now. I'm buying the first round. Bartender...on the house. Give everybody in here something! Man, I don't care--I got money to spare, U're cute, and your music's thumping! I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: I'm speechless..... Because you KNOW you can't dispute ANY of that shit! THAT'S why you're speechless, dawg! It IS what it IS!: 1 - During their title runs, the Bulls never faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it sans the aging Pistons in 90-91 playoffs. 2 - The east was weak (and still is) when the Bulls made their title runs, because whenever the Bulls DIDN'T play in the Finals, the west ALWAYS won up until 2004. Dawg, you KNOW you can't fuck with me on this shit! Just admit it! Lol.....the East was so weak that he Bulls won EACH and EVERY TIME they played in the Finals. What does that say about the WEST? | |
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The West was weak because Jordan never faced a dominate center, the East was weak because Jordan never faced a team with 2 HOF. So by your definition, the ENTIRE NBA was weak when the Bulls won their titles.
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: GOOD doesn't equal DOMINANT. The ONLY 2 dominant centers on that list - Ewing and Zo. Smits NOT dominant. Brad Freakin' Daugherty NOT dominant. And I addressed the Ewing/Zo in my above posts. If Hakeem was so dominate, why didn't he make the finals at least ONCE in the 6 years that the Bulls were there? Dawg, you're making this shit WAY too easy: Because his road to the Finals was A TON HARDER than MJ's run to the title. The West was LOADED with teams like Jazz, Blazers, Suns, Lakers, San Antonio, and Sonics. Every one of those teams made the Finals within that time period, except for the Lakers. nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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Graycap23 said: The West was weak because Jordan never faced a dominate center, the East was weak because Jordan never faced a team with 2 HOF. So by your definition, the ENTIRE NBA was weak when the Bulls won their titles.
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Adisa said: MuthaFunka said: The East was pretty weak back then, that's why whenever MJ's Bulls didn't represent the East - The West won everytime That's a bit contradictory, ain't it? Still,so the West was weak when Bill was winning like a mofo, and the East was weak winning The Lakers were winning, and everybody was weak when the Spurs won their first championship in the shortened season!! Alright, cuz, let's go have a few drinks now. I'm buying the first round. Bartender...on the house. Give everybody in here something! Man, I don't care--I got money to spare, U're cute, and your music's thumping! Ok, um....what was contradictory? Your post is ALL over the place and hard to read/understand (Who's Bill? Russell? ). Stay with me this time: Focus on the 90s - That's when MJ's Bulls won all of his titles. Now, whenever MJ's Bulls didn't make the Finals - THE WEST WON. So basically, it was the Bulls and no one else in the East. Hmm? That sure looks like a ONE TEAM CONFERENCE, right? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: If Hakeem was so dominate, why didn't he make the finals at least ONCE in the 6 years that the Bulls were there? Dawg, you're making this shit WAY too easy: Because his road to the Finals was A TON HARDER than MJ's run to the title. The West was LOADED with teams like Jazz, Blazers, Suns, Lakers, San Antonio, and Sonics. Every one of those teams made the Finals within that time period, except for the Lakers. Hummmm Bulls over Jazz twice Bulls over Blazers once Bulls over Suns once Bulls over Lakers once Bulls over Sonics once.....I guess that BLOWS your theory doesn't it. All of those teams apparently beat the team with the GREAT dominate center,,,opps I forgot, they had weak centers. [Edited 4/15/08 11:12am] | |
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Adisa said: Graycap23 said: The West was weak because Jordan never faced a dominate center, the East was weak because Jordan never faced a team with 2 HOF. So by your definition, the ENTIRE NBA was weak when the Bulls won their titles.
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Because you KNOW you can't dispute ANY of that shit! THAT'S why you're speechless, dawg! It IS what it IS!: 1 - During their title runs, the Bulls never faced a team in the EC playoffs that had 2 HOFers on it sans the aging Pistons in 90-91 playoffs. 2 - The east was weak (and still is) when the Bulls made their title runs, because whenever the Bulls DIDN'T play in the Finals, the west ALWAYS won up until 2004. Dawg, you KNOW you can't fuck with me on this shit! Just admit it! Lol.....the East was so weak that he Bulls won EACH and EVERY TIME they played in the Finals. What does that say about the WEST? C'mon, dawg - Don't go "Adisa" on me - Focus: COLLECTIVELY the East was weak or else they would have sent more teams to the Finals other than MJ's 6 appearances in 10 years, AND when they DID reach the Finals, they lost - Knicks (2 times) and the Magic. Why couldn't they beat the Western reps (Rockets/Spurs)? nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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MuthaFunka said: Graycap23 said: Lol.....the East was so weak that he Bulls won EACH and EVERY TIME they played in the Finals. What does that say about the WEST? C'mon, dawg - Don't go "Adisa" on me - Focus: COLLECTIVELY the East was weak or else they would have sent more teams to the Finals other than MJ's 6 appearances in 10 years, AND when they DID reach the Finals, they lost - Knicks (2 times) and the Magic. Why couldn't they beat the Western reps (Rockets/Spurs)? Honestly.....do u believe ANY of your last 20 posts on this thread? | |
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Graycap23 said: MuthaFunka said: Dawg, you're making this shit WAY too easy: Because his road to the Finals was A TON HARDER than MJ's run to the title. The West was LOADED with teams like Jazz, Blazers, Suns, Lakers, San Antonio, and Sonics. Every one of those teams made the Finals within that time period, except for the Lakers. Hummmm Bulls over Jazz twice Bulls over Blazers once Bulls over Suns once Bulls over Lakers once Bulls over Sonics once.....I guess that BLOWS your theory doesn't it. All of those teams apparently beat the team with the GREAT dominate center,,,opps I forgot, they had weak centers. [Edited 4/15/08 11:12am] And Hakeem beat ALL of them to GET to the Finals 2 times. You proved my point - The West was a harder trip to the Finals than the East. What's your point? C'mon, dawg! You GOTTA bring the heat better than that! nWo: bboy87 - Timmy84 - LittleBlueCorvette - MuthaFunka - phunkdaddy - Christopher
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