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Reply #30 posted 04/07/08 12:06pm

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CarrieLee said:

MuthaFunka said:



And yet people kill deer for JUST the sport of it every year and absolutely nothing happens to them. hmmm


So you're saying that people should fight dogs without any punishment?

I don't agree with hunting either, btw. I guess maybe because people eat the deer after? It's all disgusting to me.


Now, show me where I said "There should be no punichsment for fighting dogs". You can't.

And not all deer is hunted for food, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the hunters for SPORT, that hunt for shit like the horns and antlers and feet and claws and teeth of that particular animal.
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Reply #31 posted 04/07/08 12:07pm

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unkemptpueblo said:

MuthaFunka said:



And yet people kill deer for JUST the sport of it every year and absolutely nothing happens to them. hmmm


yup. I think people have selective compassion. Anybody who's watched slaughter house videos knows that when livestock is killed, its just as barbaric as dogfighting.


Exactly.
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Reply #32 posted 04/07/08 12:08pm

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Well we all support the diamond trade.... who gives a fuck about those Africans anyways.... gotta have those shiny rocks at any cost.... but lets not hurt the animals. They are more precious.


Oh shit. They certainly don't wanna go there!
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Reply #33 posted 04/07/08 12:08pm

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Well we all support the diamond trade.... who gives a fuck about those Africans anyways.... gotta have those shiny rocks at any cost.... but lets not hurt the animals. They are more precious.

Of course they are.....but that's another story all 2gether. Don't get me started.
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Reply #34 posted 04/07/08 12:09pm

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CarrieLee said:

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Are you vegan?

Most of the people hunting don't eat the animal and the ones that do really don't need to be hunting. They're only out there to get pictures, have downlow parties, and find heads to put on their walls or animals to stuff.

Dog fighting is meh to me. I still don't see the big deal, and the way people talk about Vick...it's obvious it has nothing to do with them being animal lovers.


Nope not vegan...not even vegetarian. Like I said in my above post, it's your culture.

It's just the fighting that bothers me...it would bother me with any animal. Who gets joy out of watching two dogs try to kill each other? It's disturbing to me.


Have you ever watched boxing, a martial arts or action film, or any violent real life clips? It's pretty much the same thing.

Personally, dog fighting rolleyes is not something I'd be into, but it's pretty common, and legal, elsewhere. I don't see the big deal as long as it's something people control so you don't have Cujos running around attacking kids.

I mean when did law enforcement start to truly care about this? Oh right, when they wanted to bust Vick. lol When did America start to care about this, oh wait, they don't it's just an excuse.
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Reply #35 posted 04/07/08 12:09pm

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MuthaFunka said:

CarrieLee said:



So you're saying that people should fight dogs without any punishment?

I don't agree with hunting either, btw. I guess maybe because people eat the deer after? It's all disgusting to me.


Now, show me where I said "There should be no punichsment for fighting dogs". You can't.

And not all deer is hunted for food, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the hunters for SPORT, that hunt for shit like the horns and antlers and feet and claws and teeth of that particular animal.


I think it's gross!

Sorry to pick on you, I guess I was showing an example of what graycap was doing to me.

My apologies!
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Reply #36 posted 04/07/08 12:10pm

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Dance said:

CarrieLee said:



Nope not vegan...not even vegetarian. Like I said in my above post, it's your culture.

It's just the fighting that bothers me...it would bother me with any animal. Who gets joy out of watching two dogs try to kill each other? It's disturbing to me.


Have you ever watched boxing, a martial arts or action film, or any violent real life clips? It's pretty much the same thing.

Personally, dog fighting rolleyes is not something I'd be into, but it's pretty common, and legal, elsewhere. I don't see the big deal as long as it's something people control so you don't have Cujos running around attacking kids.

I mean when did law enforcement start to truly care about this? Oh right, when they wanted to bust Vick. lol When did America start to care about this, oh wait, they don't it's just an excuse.


I've watched many specials where dog fights and cock fights were busted...it's not just Michael Vic.
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Reply #37 posted 04/07/08 12:11pm

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CarrieLee said:

MuthaFunka said:



Now, show me where I said "There should be no punichsment for fighting dogs". You can't.

And not all deer is hunted for food, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the hunters for SPORT, that hunt for shit like the horns and antlers and feet and claws and teeth of that particular animal.


I think it's gross!

Sorry to pick on you, I guess I was showing an example of what graycap was doing to me.

My apologies!

No apologies needed - I'm one of the thicker-skinned cats at the Orgy. wink
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Reply #38 posted 04/07/08 12:12pm

Imago

Now you KNOW there are some ugly ass cheerleaders at those games.

I wonder who he's fuckin'? confuse
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Reply #39 posted 04/07/08 12:13pm

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CarrieLee said:

Dance said:



Have you ever watched boxing, a martial arts or action film, or any violent real life clips? It's pretty much the same thing.

Personally, dog fighting rolleyes is not something I'd be into, but it's pretty common, and legal, elsewhere. I don't see the big deal as long as it's something people control so you don't have Cujos running around attacking kids.

I mean when did law enforcement start to truly care about this? Oh right, when they wanted to bust Vick. lol When did America start to care about this, oh wait, they don't it's just an excuse.


I've watched many specials where dog fights and cock fights were busted...it's not just Michael Vic.


Yeah, once every thousand years they bust people, but for the most part they worry about important things like going after people for one weed leaf and chasing down addicts who have crack residue under their nails. lol
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Reply #40 posted 04/07/08 12:14pm

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CarrieLee said:

MuthaFunka said:



Now, show me where I said "There should be no punichsment for fighting dogs". You can't.

And not all deer is hunted for food, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the hunters for SPORT, that hunt for shit like the horns and antlers and feet and claws and teeth of that particular animal.


I think it's gross!

Sorry to pick on you, I guess I was showing an example of what graycap was doing to me.

My apologies!

I'm not picking on. I'm just trying 2 understand your perspective.
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Reply #41 posted 04/07/08 12:14pm

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Vick made a mistake and as a result was used as an "example"...in my opinion...
folks have gotten off easier for doing worse things to people...just a few years ago, one of the biggest dogfighting rings in Georgia was busted right here in the county I live in...over 50 arrests, dozens of dead dogs found, lots of money trading hands...not one person that could post bond spent any extended time in jail...all convicted were given probation...law enforcement doesn't give a shit about dogfighting, they give a shit about who is dogfighting...
that being said, I hope Vick comes back...keeps his nose clean, doesn't fuck up anymore and does his thing...
[Edited 4/7/08 12:26pm]
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Reply #42 posted 04/07/08 12:16pm

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Dance said:

CarrieLee said:



Nope not vegan...not even vegetarian. Like I said in my above post, it's your culture.

It's just the fighting that bothers me...it would bother me with any animal. Who gets joy out of watching two dogs try to kill each other? It's disturbing to me.


Have you ever watched boxing, a martial arts or action film, or any violent real life clips? It's pretty much the same thing.

Personally, dog fighting rolleyes is not something I'd be into, but it's pretty common, and legal, elsewhere. I don't see the big deal as long as it's something people control so you don't have Cujos running around attacking kids.

I mean when did law enforcement start to truly care about this? Oh right, when they wanted to bust Vick. lol When did America start to care about this, oh wait, they don't it's just an excuse.
To be fair, there have been many arrests for dog fighting in Chicago before I even heard of Michael Vick.
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Reply #43 posted 04/07/08 12:17pm

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Vick made a mistake and as a result was used as an "example"...in my opinion...
folks have gotten off easier for doing worse things to people...just a few years ago, one of the biggest dogfighting rings in Georgia was busted right here in the county I live in...over 50 arrests, dozens of dead dogs found, lots of money trading hands...not one person that could post bond spent any extended time in jail...all convicted were given probabtion...law enforcement doesn't give a shit about dogfighting, they give a shit about who is dogfighting...
that being said, I hope Vick comes back...keeps his nose clean, doesn't fuck up anymore and does his thing...

.....that's my POINT from day 1.
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Reply #44 posted 04/07/08 12:19pm

Stymie

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Well we all support the diamond trade.... who gives a fuck about those Africans anyways.... gotta have those shiny rocks at any cost.... but lets not hurt the animals. They are more precious.
I agree with you wholeheartedly but I do not support the diamond trade specifically because of the reasons you listed.
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Reply #45 posted 04/07/08 12:23pm

CarrieLee

Graycap23 said:

CarrieLee said:



I think it's gross!

Sorry to pick on you, I guess I was showing an example of what graycap was doing to me.

My apologies!

I'm not picking on. I'm just trying 2 understand your perspective.


I can't watch boxing or martial arts either...the difference with that is they are human beings who decide whether or not they want to be put in that position. Dogs and other animals are put into that situation so their owners can bet and make money. It disgusts me.

I don't like hunting, I don't own diamonds but yes I do eat meat. If you find me to be a hypocrite for that, fine...you're entitled to you own opinion. I was raised to eat meat, I believe humans are carnivores and whatever culture you are then you go by that.

I'm late, I have to go!
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Reply #46 posted 04/07/08 12:24pm

Graycap23

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I don't like hunting, I don't own diamonds but yes I do eat meat. If you find me to be a hypocrite for that, fine...!


I don't use those labels around here.
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Reply #47 posted 04/07/08 12:28pm

Dance

rolleyes It reeks of a certain thing when people turn into PETA members over Vick because you know it's not about animals.
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Reply #48 posted 04/07/08 12:32pm

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If he was actually fighting the dogs himself, now I'd say that's a sport.
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Reply #49 posted 04/07/08 12:34pm

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Stymie said:

paintedlady said:

Well we all support the diamond trade.... who gives a fuck about those Africans anyways.... gotta have those shiny rocks at any cost.... but lets not hurt the animals. They are more precious.
I agree with you wholeheartedly but I do not support the diamond trade specifically because of the reasons you listed.

I am like Carrie Lee, I eat meat as well, and I say that that to be facetious, if we are not worried about human life in the search of shiny rocks... how can you expect people to care about some dogs that the pit against each other for profit.

Bloodsport has always fascinated us. I think it is in our nature sadly enough.
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Reply #50 posted 04/07/08 12:36pm

Graycap23

paintedlady said:

Stymie said:

I agree with you wholeheartedly but I do not support the diamond trade specifically because of the reasons you listed.

I am like Carrie Lee, I eat meat as well, and I say that that to be facetious, if we are not worried about human life in the search of shiny rocks... how can you expect people to care about some dogs that the pit against each other for profit.

Bloodsport has always fascinated us. I think it is in our nature sadly enough.

There is a "THEORY".....that life on Earth is a blood sport.
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Reply #51 posted 04/07/08 12:37pm

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Play football all day but don't pick-up the soap if it slips in the shower.
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Reply #52 posted 04/07/08 12:45pm

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I wonder if men get their dicks all soapy to penetrate without breaking their skin..Vic would have his ass cheeks clenched up pretty tight.. hmmm
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Reply #53 posted 04/07/08 12:46pm

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Humans are carnivores. In America dogs are pets, not food. In China, dogs are food and cows are sacred. I guess it depends what your culture is shrug


cows are sacred in India, not China (beef chow mien, anyone ?). your conclusion however is as right as it can get.

Concerning dog-fighting ... people should get punished for that. If they
go through their punishment and come back, I'm all for 2nd chances. For
Everyone !
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Reply #54 posted 04/07/08 12:56pm

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One4All4Ever said:

CarrieLee said:

Humans are carnivores. In America dogs are pets, not food. In China, dogs are food and cows are sacred. I guess it depends what your culture is shrug


cows are sacred in India, not China (beef chow mien, anyone ?). your conclusion however is as right as it can get.

Concerning dog-fighting ... people should get punished for that. If they
go through their punishment and come back, I'm all for 2nd chances. For
Everyone !

ahem....


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Reply #55 posted 04/07/08 12:58pm

Graycap23

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cows are sacred in India, not China (beef chow mien, anyone ?). your conclusion however is as right as it can get.

Concerning dog-fighting ... people should get punished for that. If they
go through their punishment and come back, I'm all for 2nd chances. For
Everyone !

ahem....



I was hungry....
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Reply #56 posted 04/07/08 1:17pm

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Graycap23 said:[quote]

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I was hungry....


boxed
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Reply #57 posted 04/07/08 1:17pm

One4All4Ever

paintedlady said:

One4All4Ever said:



cows are sacred in India, not China (beef chow mien, anyone ?). your conclusion however is as right as it can get.

Concerning dog-fighting ... people should get punished for that. If they
go through their punishment and come back, I'm all for 2nd chances. For
Everyone !

ahem....




I didn't say dogs weren't food in China, I said cows weren't sacred.
God knows what I've eaten when I've visited China. At least, I hope he does,
cuz in most cases ... I didn't even know what was on my plate lol

Food = Culture ... we were eating cats during WWII and the food agencies
in Belgium are about to approve for insects to be sold through retail.
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Reply #58 posted 04/07/08 7:50pm

CarrieLee

One4All4Ever said:

paintedlady said:


ahem....




I didn't say dogs weren't food in China, I said cows weren't sacred.
God knows what I've eaten when I've visited China. At least, I hope he does,
cuz in most cases ... I didn't even know what was on my plate lol

Food = Culture ... we were eating cats during WWII and the food agencies
in Belgium are about to approve for insects to be sold through retail.


I knew I fucked that up...I was rushing, but it still got the point across!

We all have different opinions, it just kills me to see that kind of stuff going on in the US. Especially by a pro athlete. My two cents.
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Reply #59 posted 04/07/08 8:32pm

uPtoWnNY

After Vick does his time, let him pursue his career like anyone else. Case closed.
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