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PrintableMach said: Dance said: I mean the average dog crate isn't even big enough for a hamster to spend more than a car ride in comfortably. 
I have 2 great dane crates that are twice the size of most toddlers play pens How much time do you force them to do in doggy prison? | |
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Dance said: Mach said:
I have 2 great dane crates that are twice the size of most toddlers play pens How much time do you force them to do in doggy prison? The kids 
hours on end 
Fendi, My westie is sound asleep in her crate right now 
She went in on her own and will stay there all night  best part
her crate door is open and shall remain so . [Edited 4/7/08 20:37pm] | |
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Mach said: Dance said: How much time do you force them to do in doggy prison? The kids
hours on end
Fendi, My westie is sound asleep in her crate right now
She went in on her own and will stay there all night best part
her crate door is open and shall remain so . [Edited 4/7/08 20:37pm] If the door's open all the time, what's the point of using the crate(outside of vet trips)? | |
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Dance said: Mach said: The kids
hours on end
Fendi, My westie is sound asleep in her crate right now
She went in on her own and will stay there all night best part
her crate door is open and shall remain so . [Edited 4/7/08 20:37pm] If the door's open all the time, what's the point of using the crate(outside of vet trips)? my dog is the same way Mach.. the door to my crate is unattached now and my dog still spends most of his time in there...he prefers it which is fine. | |
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emilia1 said: my dog still spends most of his time in there...he prefers it
or he's scared  | |
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Dance said: Mach said: The kids
hours on end
Fendi, My westie is sound asleep in her crate right now
She went in on her own and will stay there all night best part
her crate door is open and shall remain so . [Edited 4/7/08 20:37pm] If the door's open all the time, what's the point of using the crate(outside of vet trips)? It's her own private Idaho In the wild dogs are den dwellers. I don't use it as a cage per say. And when she goes to the Vet she isn't in her crate.
I use it more as a helping hand in housebreaking and a safe private zone for the animal to have quiet time Just works. Key point again being, I don't use the crate as a cage | |
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Dance said: emilia1 said: my dog still spends most of his time in there...he prefers it
or he's scared i doubt he's scared. i dont even use my crate
to take my dog to the vet..he's too big for it for me to carry..and besides he enjoys going to the vet ( i work there) so he's always had a positive experience going there... | |
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emilia1 said: Dance said: If the door's open all the time, what's the point of using the crate(outside of vet trips)? my dog is the same way Mach.. the door to my crate is unattached now and my dog still spends most of his time in there...he prefers it which is fine.Fendi has her choice of sleeping on Jessica's bed or the sofa lounge and 9 times out of 10 she will go into her crate to sleep. My Dobes and Labs and Wiems were all the same It's not a place of touture | |
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Ottensen said: Teacher said: Hundreds of thousands of dog owners (at the very least) have to be wrong then, making your dog hold it in between the times they are taken out is impossible. We're all lying to ourselves, it just doesn't work. We ignore the puddles of piss and piles of doo-doo that accumulate over the years and continue to kid ourselves. *irony* Why I'm hostile? Cos people get a puppy and think that sticking them in a crate is ok, that they'll grow up and magically learn not to chew on things or pee inside, or dig up the carpet, without any training at a certain age. Cos people get a puppy and think it's ok to have a litter box, instead of house training the dog. A litter box teaches the dog it's ok to go inside, housebreaking teaches it that it's not. Puppies need hours and hours and hours of training, physical as well as mental activity - exercise,games and rules, problems to solve. If you exercise your dog both ways and give it time to do its business and calm down before you leave home it'll be a lot easier for it to go to sleep and rest while you're gone, but that'll NEVER happen unless you train it little by little. It'll lie in its crate and cry. L4O4E, I could talk to you at length about dog training and your reading things into my posts that aren't there but it would be water off a duck's back anyway. I'll just say this: Anybody who's met me and either of my dogs (Ollie before '02, Uzie after) will tell you what an amazing relationship I have with my dogs, how happy and obedient they are. They'll tell you they've never seen anything like it before. That and I've been a professional dog trainer makes me toot my own horn in this, with confidence. While we can truly appreciate your experience in the professional realm of pet rearing, do you think you could tone it down a bit for those of us who would actually like to learn from what you can teach us vs. sounding so agressive and hostile in your posts?Tthe tone of your posts is making it somewhat hard for some of us accept alot of what you can clearly offer to us....It seems the thread began simply and well intentioned from someone who was seeking honest advice...and in your advocacy you came in here like gangbusters shooting everyone down whose opinion differed from yours, instead of contributing to something you clearly see as a problem with raising animals in a positive and CONSTRUCTIVE fashion...If you have more tips I'm sure there are many of us here who are interested in raising new pets that would love to hear them... however, sans hostile condescension, please....  HELLO    I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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I have never even heard of a "crate" 
we're thinking of getting a pug, anyone got one of those? | |
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Dewrede said: CalhounSq said: Umm, Teacher - why so hostile?
 Just askin'... 
exactly  Hmmm, agreed. That's the way to take all the fun out of the new puppy thread. | |
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I have two schnauzers and they both are crate trained. I can remember a week or more of the younger one crying when put in the crate. Now, I just tell her to go to her home and she walks right in. | |
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Ottensen said: While we can truly appreciate your experience in the professional realm of pet rearing, do you think you could tone it down a bit for those of us who would actually like to learn from what you can teach us vs. sounding so agressive and hostile in your posts?Tthe tone of your posts is making it somewhat hard for some of us accept alot of what you can clearly offer to us....It seems the thread began simply and well intentioned from someone who was seeking honest advice...and in your advocacy you came in here like gangbusters shooting everyone down whose opinion differed from yours, instead of contributing to something you clearly see as a problem with raising animals in a positive and CONSTRUCTIVE fashion...If you have more tips I'm sure there are many of us here who are interested in raising new pets that would love to hear them... however, sans hostile condescension, please.... Nah, you don't need my experience. All you need is to learn about dogs, and you don't need me to do that. There are millions of other people who will say the same things I do. I get pissed off when people get a dog first, before finding anything out. That tells me a lot of what I need to know, hence I'm pissed off. I'm done now though, really. | |
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Mach said: emilia1 said: my dog is the same way Mach.. the door to my crate is unattached now and my dog still spends most of his time in there...he prefers it which is fine.Fendi has her choice of sleeping on Jessica's bed or the sofa lounge and 9 times out of 10 she will go into her crate to sleep. My Dobes and Labs and Wiems were all the same It's not a place of touture Yeah, but can they fight? | |
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ZombieKitten said: I have never even heard of a "crate"
we're thinking of getting a pug, anyone got one of those? Um...I don't think that's one of the "bad" breeds...assuming it's pure...anyway Just make sure you: Get the basic important info you need on dogs and your breed Have plenty of space, extra cash, and patience Get him from a good breeder or shelter(the good ones will get into your business and the animal will have all the shots and etc. they really need...you'll also be able to take them back or to take them back for free/cheap basic care) Other people will tell you different, but I figure if you're going to bother doing this and you don't want to wake up one day and find a dead/dying animal in your home or yard, you should prepare for them. 
If you don't want to do that, there's always that dog renting service. | |
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brocklynn said: Teacher said: Why do you need to keep the dog in a crate? What's the use in having a dog if you're going to keep it in a crate? I'm not saying you have to allow it to sleep in your bed but in a crate...that's stupid.
Thankfully I live in a country where keeping your dog in a crate/cage on a regular basis will be illegal in a couple months.  It is really a big pen, with food, water, a blanket, toys, and a litter box that she knows how to use. She is very tiny and new to our home. We were told it was important for her safety while we are gone or sleeping. Having a crate for your new puppy is a great way to keep her safe during the first few weeks she's in your home. Once she gets used to things, she should no longer need the crate, but for now it's a good idea and very sensible too. You show excellent common sense and I'm sure your new puppy will love her new home. | |
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It must be the season for new puppies! My girls got a new puppy over the weekend!! He is a 10 week old, Black Labrador, and he is the highlight of our day!! We adore him and he could not be sweeter. He has a beatiful backyard to roam in, and he sleeps inside in my son's room. We have not had any trouble with him crying or whining at night, his problem is when left alone even for a half hour, he whines. Poor baby!! | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said:
It must be the season for new puppies! My girls got a new puppy over the weekend!! He is a 10 week old, Black Labrador, and he is the highlight of our day!! We adore him and he could not be sweeter. He has a beatiful backyard to roam in, and he sleeps inside in my son's room. We have not had any trouble with him crying or whining at night, his problem is when left alone even for a half hour, he whines. Poor baby!!  how cute! Rhythm floods my heart♥The melody it feeds my soul | |
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ZombieKitten said: I have never even heard of a "crate"
we're thinking of getting a pug, anyone got one of those? Pugs are absolutely adorable little dogs, unfortunately they have a large number of breed related illnesses. The short nose makes the airways...let's call them less than straight and that has effects on both the regular breathing and the regulation of the temperature of the air getting into their lungs. I know winter isn't really winter where you live but how hot does it get in the summer? Really warm weather will affect your pug badly because of the hot air getting into their lungs, it messes with the body temp. Because of their short nose they also have tear canal problems, resulting in running eyes. You might have to flush them out regularly at a vet's. The eyes could also be bulging and then they might not be able to close their eyes properly. There are ear problems and the breed also has existing heart problems and because of the various issues mentioned before pugs are considerably more short lived than other breeds of the same size. If you get a healthy pug it's absolutely essential that you keep it fit and exercised because when they're that small and squat every lbs counts a lot. In essence, I wouldn't get a pug even though I adore them because they have so many breed related issues. | |
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veronikka said: PaisleyPark5083 said:
It must be the season for new puppies! My girls got a new puppy over the weekend!! He is a 10 week old, Black Labrador, and he is the highlight of our day!! We adore him and he could not be sweeter. He has a beatiful backyard to roam in, and he sleeps inside in my son's room. We have not had any trouble with him crying or whining at night, his problem is when left alone even for a half hour, he whines. Poor baby!! how cute!Thanks!! I have more pics, but they uploaded really big and I am not sucessful in cropping them down to size.  | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said: veronikka said: how cute!Thanks!! I have more pics, but they uploaded really big and I am not sucessful in cropping them down to size. Are they big in file size too? If not, drop me an email with them in and I'll resize them for you.
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I may just break the Org with these huge ass pictures, but I was still not able to make them smaller and they are too cute too not share. | |
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Dance said: ZombieKitten said: I have never even heard of a "crate"
we're thinking of getting a pug, anyone got one of those? Um...I don't think that's one of the "bad" breeds...assuming it's pure...anyway Just make sure you: Get the basic important info you need on dogs and your breed Have plenty of space, extra cash, and patience Get him from a good breeder or shelter(the good ones will get into your business and the animal will have all the shots and etc. they really need...you'll also be able to take them back or to take them back for free/cheap basic care) Other people will tell you different, but I figure if you're going to bother doing this and you don't want to wake up one day and find a dead/dying animal in your home or yard, you should prepare for them.
If you don't want to do that, there's always that dog renting service. I am going to do a shitload of research before I even consider a dog. I already think a pug won't be great, since they are more a one person kind of dog and suffer if they can't have that person (I know it will be me, for some reason dogs LOVE me and follow me around and sit next to me wherever I go  ) and we have a rowdy 5 person household.
A spoodle might be able to keep up with us better  | |
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Teacher said: ZombieKitten said: I have never even heard of a "crate"
we're thinking of getting a pug, anyone got one of those? Pugs are absolutely adorable little dogs, unfortunately they have a large number of breed related illnesses. The short nose makes the airways...let's call them less than straight and that has effects on both the regular breathing and the regulation of the temperature of the air getting into their lungs. I know winter isn't really winter where you live but how hot does it get in the summer? Really warm weather will affect your pug badly because of the hot air getting into their lungs, it messes with the body temp. Because of their short nose they also have tear canal problems, resulting in running eyes. You might have to flush them out regularly at a vet's. The eyes could also be bulging and then they might not be able to close their eyes properly. There are ear problems and the breed also has existing heart problems and because of the various issues mentioned before pugs are considerably more short lived than other breeds of the same size. If you get a healthy pug it's absolutely essential that you keep it fit and exercised because when they're that small and squat every lbs counts a lot. In essence, I wouldn't get a pug even though I adore them because they have so many breed related issues. Thanks Jen! It does get hot - I read about them dying if you leave them outside  If I had a pug it would be an inside dog, but it sure sounds like a lot of suffering on the dog's part | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said:
I may just break the Org with these huge ass pictures, but I was still not able to make them smaller and they are too cute too not share. Why is it crying on the 3rd pic? Does he miss it's mommy? | |
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ZombieKitten said: I am going to do a shitload of research before I even consider a dog. I already think a pug won't be great, since they are more a one person kind of dog and suffer if they can't have that person (I know it will be me, for some reason dogs LOVE me and follow me around and sit next to me wherever I go
) and we have a rowdy 5 person household.
A spoodle might be able to keep up with us better I don't think that's necessary. It's just a matter of whether you want to invest the time and energy in having the pet. If you have kids under the age of 12, I don't see why you would want that additional responsibility(unless you had a pet before the kids). If it's for the child remember that you'll end up taking care of it and/or constantly fight the kid to do simple things. and sorry, but ick @ designer dogs | |
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gyro34 said: Why is it crying on the 3rd pic? Does he miss it's mommy? It had a watery eye for the first 2 days, it is all cleared up now!  | |
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Dance said: ZombieKitten said: I am going to do a shitload of research before I even consider a dog. I already think a pug won't be great, since they are more a one person kind of dog and suffer if they can't have that person (I know it will be me, for some reason dogs LOVE me and follow me around and sit next to me wherever I go
) and we have a rowdy 5 person household.
A spoodle might be able to keep up with us better I don't think that's necessary. It's just a matter of whether you want to invest the time and energy in having the pet. If you have kids under the age of 12, I don't see why you would want that additional responsibility(unless you had a pet before the kids). If it's for the child remember that you'll end up taking care of it and/or constantly fight the kid to do simple things. and sorry, but ick @ designer dogs It's in my nature, I can't help it, I need to know EVERYTHING. I know I will have to do everything, so I would at least like a dog I like, preferably one that WON'T run up enormous vet bills because of breed specific faults. If mating 2 breeds together makes a robust well rounded temperament in a dog, I'm all for it. | |
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PaisleyPark5083 said: gyro34 said: Why is it crying on the 3rd pic? Does he miss it's mommy? It had a watery eye for the first 2 days, it is all cleared up now!  I am glad he's doing better.[Edited 4/10/08 9:26am] | |
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brocklynn said: I got a sweet little Yorkie-Poo yesterday "Dorothy". Dorothy is so darn cute. I will post her picture as soon as she sits still the best way according to hsus /but they can only be in the crate 4 hours at a time unless they can sleep through the night be strong or in 6 months you will be buying new carpets My question is, does anyone have a dog that is crate trained? I put her in her crate last night when we went to bed, and she barked, yelped,and screamed loudly for about 45 min. It was the worst! My husband and I ignored her, and she eventually went to sleep. Did we do the right thing? How long will this take? Can anyone help? | |
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