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Thread started 10/29/02 5:38am

DORA

Daylight savings time

Now i can watch the sun rise every morning
on the patio drinking hot tea
wishing i was on the mesa.


I love the skys out here


ahhh


New Mexico is sooo beautiful
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Reply #1 posted 10/29/02 5:43am

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...and u could do that b4 DST, just get up earlier!! wink

DST sucks, it requires me 2 run around the house changing every fucking clock (and in the cars) twice a year!

It no longer benefits anyone, it is an outdated idea who's "time" has come... evil
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Reply #2 posted 10/29/02 5:47am

LaVisHh

I can draw pictures on my window each morning. razz

I can be invited to Paisley Park (be forced to stay outside) and freeze my nose hairs, waiting to get inside where it is warm... neutral

I can see Princes house clearly, as all the leaves are gone. lol

I can go outside to my car and need a buster to crack the ice off my door. mr.green

I can dig my car out from under a foot of snow. lol

I can leave a container filled with water outside and it freezes... biggrin

Gawd...Minnesota - don't you love it here?!? yes
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Reply #3 posted 10/29/02 5:53am

ronnie

I have to agree with you, June7. I hate DST. What's the point of it all?
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Reply #4 posted 10/29/02 6:39am

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LaVisHh said:

I can draw pictures on my window each morning. razz

I can be invited to Paisley Park (be forced to stay outside) and freeze my nose hairs, waiting to get inside where it is warm... neutral

I can see Princes house clearly, as all the leaves are gone. lol

I can go outside to my car and need a buster to crack the ice off my door. mr.green

I can dig my car out from under a foot of snow. lol

I can leave a container filled with water outside and it freezes... biggrin

Gawd...Minnesota - don't you love it here?!? yes

ohhh yeah...evillol
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Reply #5 posted 10/29/02 6:41am

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The point of DST is so children can go to school when it's light out-as it's much safer to walk to school or the busstop in sunlight than darkness. It's a pain in the ass for one day, then we get used to it.
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Reply #6 posted 10/29/02 6:53am

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DST has nothing 2 do with children walking 2 school safely... it's about money. It's always been about money... read on:

Daylight Saving Time has been used in the United States and in many European countries since World War I.

During World War I, in an effort to conserve fuel needed to produce electric power, Germany and Austria took time by the forelock, and began saving daylight at 11 p.m. on the 30th of April, 1916, by advancing the hands of the clock one hour until the following October. This 1916 action was immediately followed by other countries in Europe, Belgium, Denmark, France, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Sweden, and Turkey, as were Tasmania, Nova Scotia, and Manitoba. Britian began 3 weeks later, on 21 May 1916. In 1917, Australia, Newfoundland and Nova Scotia initiated it.

The plan was not formally adopted in the United States until 1918. 'An Act to preserve daylight and provide standard time for the United States' was enacted on March 19, 1918. [See law] It both established standard time zones and set summer DST to begin on 31 March 31 1918. It placed the country on Daylight Saving Time for the remainder of WW I, and was observed for seven months in 1918 and 1919. The law, however, proved so unpopular (mostly because people rose earlier and went to bed earlier than we do today) that the law was later repealed in 1919 over President Wilson's veto. It became a local option, and was continued in a few states (Massachusetts, Rhode Island) and some cities (New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, and others).

During World War II, President Roosevelt instituted year-round Daylight Saving Time, called 'War Time.' (from 2 February 1942 to 30 September 1945). [See law] From 1945 to 1966, there was no federal law about Daylight Saving Time. So states and localities were free to choose whether to observe Daylight Saving Time and could choose when it began and ended. This, however, caused confusion -- especially for the broadcasting industry, and for railways, airlines, and bus companies. Because of the different local customs and laws, radio and TV stations and the transportation companies had to publish new schedules every time a state or town began or ended Daylight Saving Time.

On 4 January 1974, Nixon signed into law the Daylight Saving Time Energy Act of 1973. Then, beginning on 6 January 1974, implementing the Daylight Saving Time Energy Act, clocks were set ahead for a fifteen-month period through 27 April 1975.

Inconsistent use in the U.S.

In the early 1960's, observance of Daylight Saving Time was quite inconsistent, with a hodgepodge of time observances, and no agreement when to change clocks. The Interstate Commerce Commission, the nation's timekeeper, was immobilized, and the matter remained deadlocked - until 1961. Many business interests were supportive of standardization, although it became a bitter fight between the indoor and outdoor theater industries. The farmers, however, were opposed to such uniformity. State and local governments were a mixed bag, depending on local conditions.

Efforts at standardization were encouraged by a transportation industry organization, the Committee for Time Uniformity. They surveyed the entire nation, through telephone operators, as to local time observances, and found the situation was quite confusing. Next, the Committee's goal was a strong supportive story on the first page of the New York Times. With the general public's support rallied, the Time Uniformity Committee's goal was accomplished but only after discovering and disclosing that on the 35-mile stretch of highway (Route 2) between Moundsville, West Virginia, and Steubenville, Ohio, every bus driver and his passengers had to endure seven time changes!

The Uniform Time Act

By 1966, some 100 million Americans were observing Daylight Saving Time based on their own local laws and customs. Congress decided to step in to end the confusion and establish one pattern across the country. The Uniform Time Act of 1966 (15 U.S. Code Section 260a) [see law] which was signed into Public Law 89-387 on 12 April 1966, by President Lyndon Johnson, created Daylight Saving Time to begin on the last Sunday of April and to end on the last Sunday of October. Any State that wanted to be exempt from Daylight Saving Time could do so by passing a State law.

The Uniform Time Act of 1966 established a system of uniform (within each time zone) Daylight Saving Time throughout the U.S. and its possessions, exempting only those states in which the legislatures voted to keep the entire state on standard time.

In 1972, Congress revised the law to provide that, if a State was in two or more time zones, the State could exempt the part of the State that was in one time zone while providing that the part of the State in a different time zone would observe Daylight Saving Time. The Federal law was amended in 1986 to begin Daylight Saving Time on the first Sunday in April.

Under legislation enacted in 1986, Daylight Saving Time in the USA

begins at 2 a.m. on the first Sunday of April and
ends at 2 a.m. on the last Sunday of October
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Reply #7 posted 10/29/02 9:27am

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Woopy doo, i can tell people really want to conserve energy nowadays. That's why it was originally used. Nowadays, it simply gives an extra hour of sunlight in the summer months (in the Northern hemisphere) for people to do more outdoor activities.

And: "There is a small public health benefit to Daylight Saving time. Several studies in the U.S. and Britain have found that daylight, almost certainly because of improved visibility, substantially decreases (by four times) the likelihood of pedestrians being killed on the roads. Even if it is beneficial overall, Daylight Saving Time shifts this danger from the evening to the morning."

Of course, schools close long before the sun goes down.

http://webexhibits.org/da...ing/c.html
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Reply #8 posted 10/30/02 12:29am

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Most of Indiana is the Eastern Time Zone and does not observe DST. The portions of the state in the Central Time Zone (the greater Chicago area and a few southwestern counties) do observe DST, though. And to make things even more confusing, there are a few counties in southeastern Indiana (near Cincinnati and Louisville, I think) that are on Eastern Time and "unofficially" observe DST.

So, basically, the time situation in this state is a mess. Here in Indianapolis, we're on New York time for half of the year and Chicago time for the other half.
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Reply #9 posted 10/30/02 8:20am

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matt said:

Most of Indiana is the Eastern Time Zone and does not observe DST. The portions of the state in the Central Time Zone (the greater Chicago area and a few southwestern counties) do observe DST, though. And to make things even more confusing, there are a few counties in southeastern Indiana (near Cincinnati and Louisville, I think) that are on Eastern Time and "unofficially" observe DST.

So, basically, the time situation in this state is a mess. Here in Indianapolis, we're on New York time for half of the year and Chicago time for the other half.
That would definitely be confusing, esp if you're watching TV in one area, but the station broadcasts out of another.
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Reply #10 posted 10/30/02 5:44pm

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mrchristian said:

That would definitely be confusing, esp if you're watching TV in one area, but the station broadcasts out of another.


Yeah, TV can be tricky. The local network affiliates usually tape-delay their shows by an hour, so we can go by "Eastern" time, but for cable networks, we usually have to go by "Central" time during DST.
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Reply #11 posted 10/30/02 6:38pm

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We just started daylight savings over here (Australia) last weekend.

I think this is very inconsiderate seeing as we are in the middle of a drought. That one hours extra sunlight will only make matters worse, not to mention the fact that it will fade my curtains. wink
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Reply #12 posted 10/30/02 6:40pm

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bkw said:

We just started daylight savings over here (Australia) last weekend.

I think this is very inconsiderate seeing as we are in the middle of a drought. That one hours extra sunlight will only make matters worse, not to mention the fact that it will fade my curtains. wink


It would only be an improvement... (to your curtains)

I've told you this time and time again wink

They're awful Brett... just bloody awful!
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Reply #13 posted 10/30/02 6:45pm

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Diva said:

bkw said:

We just started daylight savings over here (Australia) last weekend.

I think this is very inconsiderate seeing as we are in the middle of a drought. That one hours extra sunlight will only make matters worse, not to mention the fact that it will fade my curtains. wink


It would only be an improvement... (to your curtains)

I've told you this time and time again wink

They're awful Brett... just bloody awful!

But I made them out of a mumu that 2the9s left at my place.

Dont you like that lovely floral pattern?
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Reply #14 posted 10/30/02 6:53pm

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bkw said:

But I made them out of a mumu that 2the9s left at my place.

Dont you like that lovely floral pattern?


That says it all!

lol

I can't believe 2the9s would leave his mumu behind! Careless bugger!
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Reply #15 posted 10/30/02 6:59pm

2the9s

Daylight savings time sucks ass. mad
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Reply #16 posted 10/30/02 7:06pm

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2the9s said:

Daylight savings time sucks ass. mad


awww 2the9s... you miss your mumu don't you?

Here we go...
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Reply #17 posted 10/30/02 7:07pm

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i get off an hour earlier now. can't very well hand-harvest corn in the dark... woot!
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Reply #18 posted 10/30/02 10:00pm

Moonbeam

I love Daylight savings in the fall. It means an extra hour of sleep!
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Reply #19 posted 10/30/02 10:12pm

TRON

I like getting the extra hour but I prefer the effects of Daylight Savings in the Spring instead. You get extra darkness in the morning when it's needed and then sun sets between 9 and 10 all summer. I love those long days. You really know Winter is coming when it gets dark by 5pm. Yuck!
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Reply #20 posted 10/30/02 10:19pm

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TRON said:

I like getting the extra hour but I prefer the effects of Daylight Savings in the Spring instead. You get extra darkness in the morning when it's needed and then sun sets between 9 and 10 all summer. I love those long days. You really know Winter is coming when it gets dark by 5pm. Yuck!

I agree. biggrin
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