JustErin said:

I am not excusing their behavior either but like you say their could possibly be more to this story than they are saying.
And there are mean teachers out there my daughter recently was humiliated in front of her whole class by one of her teachers. Which lead me to think why is this man teaching if he finds it right to humiliate one of his students???

There was a time where if a kid even looked at their teacher wrong, their parents, neighbors, the bus driver, the man at the liquor store, the neighbors dog, and the neighbor's baby would be waiting for them after school with a belt.

veronikka said:

I know there are mean teachers. I had quite a few. But, if these kids had time to plan all this, then why not go to a parent and tell them the teacher was being abusive? What on earth made them think they could actually carry this out?

it is so scary these days

the town where this happened is about 45 minutes from where I live...it's a scary story, really...and there is more to blame than just a bunch of bad ass kids...first of all, even a lot of veteran teachers do not have control of their classrooms anymore...very little discipline is administered at school, especially at this paticular grade level...another thing, some parents are becoming less concerned with the things their children are exposed to at home...tv, internet, music, etc...
my son is in third grade as well...we had him moved to another class earlier this year because his teacher had no control of the classroom...look, if my son, one of the most irresponsible kids on the planet, says he can't concentrate in class; then there is definately a problem ...wether it's new teachers without the experience to deal with rowdy students or veteran teachers whose hands are tied because of how they're limited to discipline, the problem is becoming more widespread and stories like this will become commonplace...

Some days I really hate my job.

Sweeny79 said:

you have it tough!

veronikka said:

That's the type of kids I teach! But mine are 14!!!!!
And bigger than me....

I shouldn't say I hate my job.... I don't I really do love it....but dealing with these f'ed up kids is so draining.

And one of my emotionally disturbed boys is mad at me because he was punished for an outburst last week and he told me today the only reason he hasn't tried this yet is because he don't wanna go to jail.

Sweeny79 said:

So what's the safest grade to teach now? Kindergarten? How can you even teach in this atmosphere?

noimageatall said:

There are crazy kids in any grade, it's part of the job. When you decide you want to teach special education you know what you are getting into.

Sweeny79 said:

your not left alone with these kids are you?

veronikka said:

I have assistants.

JustErin said:

Some teachers are mean. That's true. But some kids are crazy as well. I certainly didn't do anything close enough to "mean" to deserving what that boy said too me.

Sweeny79 said:

and be glad something is stopping that kid from doing what he is thinking of doing, cause some could care less that they are going to jail

DanceWme said:

I'm sorry but....

SCNDLS said:

Thank you. Just seeing my dad's belt hanging in the closet kept me from doing too much dumb sh!t. Nothing wrong with a little old skool discipline.

veronikka said:

Ahhh.... he's just a punk. I think he could get mad and hit me, I've had kids do that before, one even did knock me out once, years ago, ( I was trying to stop him from hanging himself in the bathroom) but I don't have any real fear of this particular kid.

uPtoWnNY said:

Some kids NEED to have their asses kicked, come to think of it....some adults too.

Sweeny79 said:

I don't know, sweeny...that boy might be the one you need to look out for.

I swear they do not pay teachers enough for the job they do.

noimageatall said:

I agree, on both accounts!

noimageatall said:

Preach it! Sweeny, I have friends who teach in NYC, so I feel you. Y'all deserve COMBAT PAY for the sh!t you have to deal with(a lot of it from stupid parents).

noimageatall said:

Kids just dont think sometimes, they think they can get away with it and dont think of the cosequences if caught
There can be many reasons why these kids did not go to their parents and if the teacher had any wrong doing in this matter hopefully appropriate action will be taken with her. Luckily this did not get to the point that it could have, the kids were caught on time and hopefully they get the help they need that will prevent them from ever even thinking of planning something like this again

uPtoWnNY said:

Oh GOD I LOVE YOU!

so true....

noimageatall said:

Agree on that 100%!!! I know I would not be able to handle that job!!!

veronikka said:

Exactly...and nobody is there for them.

Nobody teaches kids right from wrong anymore. No one is there to police what kind of media they have access too. Porn, violence.... they've seen it all by age 10.And they behave like it's like A Clockwork Orange in the playgrounds. I'm not being dramatic, this is what I know to be true. Teachers can only do so much. God, fear for the future.

Sweeny79 said:

My sister-in-law's had parents getting in her face for doing what the parents should have done long ago. You have to have the patience of Job to handle that nonsense. I couldn't do it - I'd wind up in jail for assault with intent to kill.

BEAT DEY ASS!

uPtoWnNY said:

I'm surprised most teachers I know haven't.

uPtoWnNY said:

Be glad if that's ALL they do. My friend is a principal at an elementary school in NYC and 6 months ago a parent attacked her and 2 other officials because the 3 or 4 kids that were attending the school were being abused and child protective services had told my friend not to release the kids to the mother when she arrived. So of course, a fight broke out and my friend's jaw was broken. The fruit don't fall too far from the tree and I DO fear for the future.

Sweeny79 said:

You're absulutely right about this. I have another friend who is a principal of an elementary school here in Dallas and the stories he tells me of hoochie mama mamas that are 13-15 years older than their kids make my head hurt. Also, last year his school was in the news because a 3rd grader was passing out blow jobs like lollipops at recess. It's a DAMN shame what goes on nowadays. Makes me not want to have kids at all.