Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Mach topped it, I think.

Hi Karen!

FunkMistress said:

hello love! been a very long time.. hope you are behaving yourself and that Christopher obeys you now.

The illusion that ONLY humans can experience.

The illusion that ONLY humans can experience.

Graycap23 said:

Ever see a mama elephant with her baby? I think parent/child bonds are the real deal - human and animal.

Graycap23 said:

Ever see a mama elephant with her baby? I think parent/child bonds are the real deal - human and animal.

JustErin said:

Parental love is not the same as "relationship" love. One is natural, one is illusion.

JustErin said:

oh my gawd, that scene in Dumbo where his momma is in the Elephant Jail after going all 'Trading Spouses' in the circus tent, and swinging him on her trunk ALWAYS makes me cry

But as for romantic love - I don't believe in it...it's

Imago said:

Interesting use of the emoticon as a thin shield for your pussified confession of vulnerability.

JustErin said:

oh my gawd, that scene in Dumbo where his momma is in the Elephant Jail after going all 'Trading Spouses' in the circus tent, and swinging him on her trunk ALWAYS makes me cry

Imago said:

Interesting use of the emoticon as a thin shield for your pussified confession of vulnerability.

Imago said:

Was this what made you turn to the smurfs for comfort?

Imago said:

Was this what made you turn to the smurfs for comfort?

FunkMistress said:

I'm sorry, what? I can't hear over your sobbing waiting on big daddy to get home from work






I'm serious. I can't watch that scene. It's too much for me. <--choice emoticon for badasses.

Imago said:

He's at home waiting for me! I need to get OUT of here!

FunkMistress said:

Erin, I've always loved and respected you.







But I LOOOOOVVVVEE seeing you like this

(other than the fact I'm still adjusting to you're non-lesbian stuff. That takes some adjusting. )

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Neither, but we're very happy!

The illusion that ONLY humans can experience.

I just looked it up in the dictionary and find the definition very weak. I find the definition of commitment equally so.

What does love mean to you? ( The type between consenting adults)
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

pardonme4livin said:

Actually, he didn't; you do.

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Love is proof of the living God.

Its supply is endless; its cost is free; its power is greater than anything else in the world.

JustErin said:

oh my gawd, that scene in Dumbo where his momma is in the Elephant Jail after going all 'Trading Spouses' in the circus tent, and swinging him on her trunk ALWAYS makes me cry

I always use love as an analogy for Nirvana.


The Buddha was very adamant that Nirvana was not an intellectual experience. That meaning you could NOT reason out enlightenment--its not something to 'know' in that sense.
The experience of awakening or enlightenment and stepping into 'nirvana' can be expereinced by each man or woman, dumb or smart.


Likewise Being in love is the same. You can read as many text books and poems as you want, but there's this gut feeling that you 'know' instantly when you see two people falling in love, if you yourself have been in their shoes. Otherwise, it's an abstract, impossible to pin down idea.


The buddhist often describe nirvana in negative terms--in other words, not what it 'is', but what it 'isn't. They call it the unbecoming, the unconditioned, etc. etc.

Its like chipping away at a rock the way a sculpture does to create his art. He discards the pieces that are 'not' the statue he is creating. Thus is the way some concepts are explained.


Then again, how do you describe love as the absence of loneliness, hopelessness, selfishness, cynicism, etc. etc. when each person will refute the absolutes and exist in some grey area of consciousness thereby settling for something else.


I guess.
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Imago said:

could you accept that the statue was/is always within the rock..
whether we are ever able to (re)expose it... or not...?

what i mean is... instead of chipping away/discarding those pieces that are not the 'statue'... maybe love is being able to see beyond those additional pieces to the statue that was/is always within...?

I like the concept of 'what it isn't'..... as you note... unbecoming, unconditioned .... sounds childlike, innocent, pure, new... cleansing ourselves of some adult acquisitions which may stop us experiencing, seeing ...love in its truest form..?