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Reply #60 posted 03/30/08 6:59pm

Fauxie

Imago said:

Fauxie said:



Is that any good? I've flicked through it a few times and read short bits of it in the book shop but never bought it.

It's basically updated pulp fiction with an exotic 'Thai' feel.

Of course, you're in Bangkok so I don't know how exotic it would be to you. lol


Hopefully not like those parts of 'The Beach' where there's all this stuff about snake's blood and whatnot. Makes the markets in the small sois sound so much more exotic than they really are. lol They should've had the protagonist being approached to try eating sour mango or something. Or maybe to buy a suit. Far more realistic.
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Reply #61 posted 03/30/08 7:06pm

Imago

ThreadBare said:

Imago said:


It's basically updated pulp fiction with an exotic 'Thai' feel.

Of course, you're in Bangkok so I don't know how exotic it would be to you. lol



hmmm Was Burdett interviewed on NPR's "Fresh Air" about this novel recently? It sounds familiar.

Not sure eek


I bought it cause it sad "bangkok" and the cover was pretty redface
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Reply #62 posted 03/30/08 7:10pm

Fauxie

Imago said:

ThreadBare said:




hmmm Was Burdett interviewed on NPR's "Fresh Air" about this novel recently? It sounds familiar.

Not sure eek


I bought it cause it sad "bangkok" and the cover was pretty redface


Two things:

1. falloff @ 'exotic Thai feel'. So clip-on.

2. batting eyes @ 'exotic Thai feel'. batting eyes
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Reply #63 posted 03/30/08 7:47pm

ThreadBare

Imago said:

ThreadBare said:




hmmm Was Burdett interviewed on NPR's "Fresh Air" about this novel recently? It sounds familiar.

Not sure eek


I bought it cause it sad "bangkok" and the cover was pretty redface



NPR did interview him. Now, I *know* I might listen to it too often, if that's possible.

did you at least read the jacket cover, Imago? hmm
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Reply #64 posted 03/30/08 7:49pm

Imago

ThreadBare said:

Imago said:


Not sure eek


I bought it cause it sad "bangkok" and the cover was pretty redface



NPR did interview him. Now, I *know* I might listen to it too often, if that's possible.

did you at least read the jacket cover, Imago? hmm



no, I literally saw the word "Bangkok" with the cobra head, and thought the cover looked like a really cool wrapping paper you buy at those fansy schmancy gift stores redface


I sometimes buy a book totally random just to give it a chance razz

That's how I stumbled on Orson Scott Card's stuff. nod
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Reply #65 posted 03/30/08 7:51pm

Fauxie

Imago said:

ThreadBare said:




NPR did interview him. Now, I *know* I might listen to it too often, if that's possible.

did you at least read the jacket cover, Imago? hmm



no, I literally saw the word "Bangkok" with the cobra head, and thought the cover looked like a really cool wrapping paper you buy at those fansy schmancy gift stores redface


I sometimes buy a book totally random just to give it a chance razz

That's how I stumbled on Orson Scott Card's stuff. nod



It's also pretty much how you go about choosing your boos. neutral
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Reply #66 posted 03/30/08 7:52pm

Imago

Fauxie said:

Imago said:




no, I literally saw the word "Bangkok" with the cobra head, and thought the cover looked like a really cool wrapping paper you buy at those fansy schmancy gift stores redface


I sometimes buy a book totally random just to give it a chance razz

That's how I stumbled on Orson Scott Card's stuff. nod



It's also pretty much how you go about choosing your boos. neutral



That's bitter lol
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Reply #67 posted 03/30/08 7:53pm

Ocean

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Reply #68 posted 03/30/08 10:46pm

Raze

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Imago said:

Raze said:





Tell me about this guy and his writng (this book or any others you've read). I've been kind of wanting to read some of his stuff, because he's always just sitting there at Borders, and I'm tired of standing in the book store for 2 hours every week desperately trying to find something to read at the beach. People seem to love him, but I vaguely recall when he was writing "Iron Man" for Marvel, that some people were up-in-arms because he's a big neo-con. Is that true, and if so, does it come through in his writing?



I wouldn't know what his political views are, truthfully.
I would be surprised that he was a neo-con, but then again--I dont know.


Orson Scott Card's characters are always deeply conflicted and flawed. His sci-fi novels stand out from other writers in that the story is ALWAYS based on the human experience--not the sci-fi. And Ender's Game is brilliant.
The first book is a terrrific fast read, and Speaker for the Dead is an incredible followup. What's so unique is that of the four books under the Ender Series:

Ender's Game
Speaker for the Dead
Xenocide
Children of the Mind

None of them are similar to the others. They all are different types of stories that continue the saga. Unfortunately the first two books are absolutely brilliant with the third book being pretty good, and the forth book biting off more than he could chew--the fourth book is the only one that is truly sci-fi, and deals with so many concepts at the same time that the story of the protagonist (Ender Wiggen) gets lost in the mix.

Card's characters are three dimensional, conflicted, and his style of writing is biting, deliberate, and almost surgically delivered. You really care for the characters, and you really feel the stakes of each one's decisions.

What's really wierd is that in Xenocide, one of the overreaching themes is challenging the status quo or challenging 'myth' and 'religions', and throughout the entire series there's a rebellious nature to what is happening. I guess it could be taken as a libertarian type of thing lol --I just never really took it that way.

The books are excellent though.

If you REALLY want to read the Ender series, you may want to read them in this order:

Enders Game
Speaker for the Dead

Then the Hegemon series (which cronical Bean's life)

Then circle back around and read xenocide and Children of the Mind (cause they really kind of end the story on a downer quality wise and by the tone of the story).


Overall I love the Ender series. shrug



Thank you. I know what I'll be reading after I get done with Neil Gaiman. Or I'll alternate back and forth. I appreciate the effort in describing these for me.
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