AaronForever said:

poor mejo...mentos?

Maybe it is Prince??? Nah, cannot be??? Could be???

I can't reckon to have read many of Tibor's posts but as mentioned isn't this just the intolerant attacking of differences again?

Smacks of recent threads which ganged up on "ebonics", rappers etc, i.e. anyone with a different lifetstyle or method of expressing themselves is fair game to the majority/status quo.

What is it now, anyone who can't use English to the same standard as yourself is target for mockery and mimickery?

Essence said:

In fairness Essence, I think it is reasonable for anyone here to presume that Tibor is an imaginary character created by someone who no doubt speaks perfect English. The point of IceNine's post is that this new person arrived from nowhere and seems to intentionally post nonsensical content to try and stir up flames.

This might all be incorrect, but it is a very reasonable assumption based on Tibor's posts so far

BrianFellows said:

Okay, Mr. Fellows has been MIA 4 a few months now, and then (out of the blue, mind u) happens 2 post on a thread where comparisons r being made of he and Tibor? Very suspicious, indeed.

Tibor = Brian Fellows (imo)

ian said:

Thank you, Ian... thank you. I really do think that Tibor is another orger who is out to have fun.

Amen, Ian! There have been plenty of bad grammer spewing people on the Org in the past, most of whom have a problem with English since its not their first language. In 99% of those cases, no one mocked these people for not having a command of the language. In this particular case, the bad grammer seems very much planned. Add into that the fact that Tibor makes ludicrous statements about Miles Davis paling next to Justin Timberlake, and you have all the evidence you need. Tibor is a fake, and is obviously having fun with this whole thing. Icenine and the others on this thread aren't hurting anyone's feelings (and if feelings are actually getting hurt, then someone's too damn sensitive. You can't make retarded statements about the artistic validity of boy-band members and expect to be taken seriously).

A wise man once said, "Do unto others as you would have others do unto you."

Ice you seem like an intelligent man. You obviously think through some things before you post. However, I must say that there are times when you post when I believe that your greatest joy comes from putting others down. Now in psychology circles that is known as "building yourself up through putting another down." I don't imagine however that you need to do that. I do not know who Tibor is, they could be another orger just trying to be someone they aren't, or they could actually be someone new. I've spoken to many people online who do not have English as a first language and have a difficult time writing it.

You assume this individual is someone who is not new to the org, and you could very well be right, but what if they are someone new? What kind of message are you sending out to others who are new to the org but do not have English as a first language? It almost seems as though you are saying "If you do not fit in with the style that we are looking for, then you will not be a member of the "in group" on the org and will therefore be ostracized."

Another wise man once said, "Watch how your friends treat another, for chances are, they treat you the same way behind your back."

Ice no disrespect to you, but you are one of the leaders on the org, people like you and respect you, show some class when posting about other orgers. It only makes you look bad when you put another down.

DreamLife said:

With all due respect, I think that you have totally missed the point of this topic. Furthermore, I believe that you should refrain from attempting to psychoanalyze anyone on the internet, as it is not possible.

Tibor is not a new org member and is someone that we all know and love having fun... so, I am just having fun with them.

EDIT: I have NEVER said anything against one of my "friends" and I won't be doing so behind their backs. Please consult anyone on here that you believe to be my friend and ask them if I have ever said anything against anyone else who appears to be my friend.

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[This message was edited Tue Oct 29 7:46:35 PST 2002 by IceNine]

tibor's part of the matrix...?

JediMaster said:

Bingo, we have a winna...even those ding dongs Oceana and Natasha write clearly when they finally stop acting the fool and get serious. Nobody "writes" in broken English.

Matrix whats this about you talk! LL Cool J and Justin in nude make happy man smiling too.

IceNine said:

This thread is funny!

IceNine said:

What one man considers fun, another considers painful. Perhaps Tibor is not a new org member, but you can't rule out that possibility totally. All I'm saying is to take a moment and think things through before "having fun" with someone that you think might not be a new orger. If you don't have absolute proof that they are not a new orger, then the chance remains that you are making fun of a new orger.

Ice you are a leader on this site. Many people look up to you and respect you and your views. I do as well. However, there are times when you post things about others, whether in having fun as you call it, or even just plain flaming another, in which you could inadvertantly hurt someone's feelings. I mean if I could not speak English very well I would view this thread as a put down to my inability to speak perfect English, even if the thread wasn't directed at me I would still feel that way.

Peace to you Ice.

2the9s said:

DreamLife said:

dreamlife has a point...maybe we should kill this thread now...ian?

SkletonKee said:

Let's face it... Tibor is most certainly an existing org member... there is no need to close this thread.

Ian... can you use your moderator superpowers to find out who Tibor really is?



Trust me... Tibor is not new.

or:

Me you trusting in Tibor not new but love Timberlake like most Adonis handsome!

DreamLife said:

Well... I think it has been made very clear that Tony is having fun with Tibor because he thinks that it is an old orger having fun as well.

I have never seen Tony make fun of another on this site to hurt them on purpose. Yes, he has been harsh with certain orgers on here in the past, but it was between him and another orger.. another orger who was doing the same to him. He certainly is not one to go out and hurt another just for the sake of doing it. If fact, I know of a few instances where him and another have insulted one another on the boards and now they are friends after talking things out.

I would think that anyone who cannot speak English very well, would look at this thread for what it is and not an insult to anyone who cannot speak perfect English.

I don't think IceNine is being hurtful or insulting here, I think he just recognizes when someone is having a bit of fun with him Tibor, the game is up so come clean and let Tony out of his misery

ian said:

True, maybe Tibor isn't real, if he is though how would this thread make him feel? Also as Dreamlife suggests wouldn't this mocking tone deter others from P.Org who find written English awkward? After seeing the merciless way Tibor's posts are disected I should think so...

Tibor said:

NO MORE PESRONEL ATTACKKINGS!
we r sickj & tired of name chnages to make bitches
shut up & stop ther persomel atackkings.
This my third name since prince.rog born & raised.

SkletonKee said:

Fake ID or no, seeing as Tibor doesn't seem to have trolled or flamed anybody yet has a whole thread devoted to flaming him you'd think P.Org rules are being broken.

Essence said:

I would think taking my name and saying "AsYourStar" instead of "AzureStar" points Tibor in the direction of being an old orger. Along with everything else Ian said.

Essence said:

Wrong on both counts. Tibor's first day on the Org saw 6 different posts reported to moderators including a flame war he was 50% responsible for.

And no one here is flaming Tibor - his posts ARE incomprehensible. It isn't an attack to say that, it's just true, I can't understand a word of it. IceNine is putting forward a theory that Tibor is someone we already know and love from the Org and that he has just having a bit of fun at our expense.

Essence said:

Nobody has flamed him yet...

We are posting in the style of another orger at the moment.

Flames are things like this:

(Imaginary orger) you are the biggest piece of shit on the planet! The fact that you woke up this morning is proof that there is either no god, god has a sick sense of humor or god is the most cruel creature ever. The very reality of your existence makes me question the possibility of justice in the universe, as you are the most malignant piece of shit going. In fact, you would be doing everyone a favor if you jumped off a fucking building and fell to your death. Don't worry about what your parents would think... trust me, they will be celebrating.

That is a flame.

IceNine said:

thanks for the example IceNine! Right that's it, to balance things out I'm starting a "post in the style of IceNine" thread, then no-one has cause to complain. OK?

come on kiddos..im much more interested in what you have to say about the transgender death and gay responsibilities...


head over to that thread...all are welcome!! all are welcome!!

ian said:

:LOL:

Great idea, Ian!!!

Post in the style of IceNine here:

http://www.prince.org/msg...&tid=26645