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PrintableLammastide said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Property ownership  very masculine trait!I'm joking... somewhat. I know full well I don't own my wife or her inclination to appreciate another male's beauty. But I do find it interesting that I'm more... er... "piqued" by another guy's appreciation for my wife than hers for him. I think my own particulars may skew my view: My wife and I are totally mismatched in at least one very obvious way. That she willfully sticks around despite this -- and she would definitely have options  -- makes me really confident in her feelings for me and less threatened by anything visceral she might feel for some random stud.why? i remember you talking about the circumstances of your marriage some time ago and I always just wondered why. | |
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JasmineFire said: Lammastide said: I'm joking... somewhat. I know full well I don't own my wife or her inclination to appreciate another male's beauty. But I do find it interesting that I'm more... er... "piqued" by another guy's appreciation for my wife than hers for him. I think my own particulars may skew my view: My wife and I are totally mismatched in at least one very obvious way. That she willfully sticks around despite this -- and she would definitely have options -- makes me really confident in her feelings for me and less threatened by anything visceral she might feel for some random stud.why? i remember you talking about the circumstances of your marriage some time ago and I always just wondered why. Why what? Why am I confident? Or why do we stick around? Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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fhqwhgads said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: You sound ready to be taken seriously in a relationship.  He does. In several, in fact.ROFLMAO! How are you guy?  | |
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Lammastide said: JasmineFire said: why? i remember you talking about the circumstances of your marriage some time ago and I always just wondered why. Why what? Why am I confident? Or why do we stick around? why does she stick around? | |
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Lammastide said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Property ownership very masculine trait!I'm joking... somewhat. I know full well I don't own my wife or her inclination to appreciate another male's beauty. But I do find it interesting that I'm more... er... "piqued" by another guy's appreciation for my wife than hers for him. I think my own particulars may skew my view: My wife and I are totally mismatched in at least one very obvious way. That she willfully sticks around despite this -- and she would definitely have options -- makes me really confident in her feelings for me and less threatened by anything visceral she might feel for some random stud.
...But, yeah, as a matter of mutual respect, neither of us would have some XXX throwdown ooglefest on a third party. It's just a bit tacky. 
[Edited 3/22/08 19:04pm] Hence forth the I know you that well....
Great sidebar: You have cause to be less threatened and are comforted in that. Should she have similar confidence? In what way do you you recipicate this? Does she have confidence that you will stay the course? What is your mutual agreement? | |
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Hmm. I guess it would bother me. I'm sorta insecure  Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together | |
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Volitan said: Hmm. I guess it would bother me. I'm sorta insecure
Not convinced on its face, this would equate insecurity. Why do you relate it as so? Do you really believe it actually is? | |
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JasmineFire said: Lammastide said: Why what? Why am I confident? Or why do we stick around? why does she stick around? Have you SEEN me!?!?! 
 Seriously, I suppose you'd have to ask her. But when we've talked about related things -- and we've certainly needed to in our history -- I think it boils down to stuff neither of us can definitively quantify. Among the reasons I suspect: We are inspired by one-another. We want to serve one-another. We want to parent our daughter as a unit (and we want another one). We want to honor our stated commitment to be family. We are happy together. We satisfy one-another. We... love one another. And it seems to work.Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: JasmineFire said: why does she stick around? Have you SEEN me!?!?!
Seriously, I suppose you'd have to ask her. But when we've talked about related things -- and we've certainly needed to in our history -- I think it boils down to stuff neither of us can definitively quantify. Among the reasons I suspect: We are inspired by one-another. We want to serve one-another. We want to parent our daughter as a unit (and we want another one). We want to honor our stated commitment to be family. We are happy together. We satisfy one-another. We... love one another. And it seems to work. i actually haven't seen you! i'm sure you're stunning, though.
well, i guess if it works, it works. | |
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Lammastide said: JasmineFire said: why does she stick around? Have you SEEN me!?!?!
 Wow...
"It's gotta be the shoes." | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: Volitan said: Hmm. I guess it would bother me. I'm sorta insecure
Not convinced on its face, this would equate insecurity. Why do you relate it as so? Do you really believe it actually is? Huh? Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: fhqwhgads said: He does. In several, in fact.ROFLMAO! How are you guy? It's a beautiful morning, the F1 grand prix in Malaysia is coming up in a few hours and tonight there are 2 huge footy matches to enjoy. Mon is well, as am I. Golf is coming to stay on Tuesday for the first time in 6 months. Life is good. | |
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ThreadBare said: Lammastide said: Have you SEEN me!?!?!
Wow...
"It's gotta be the shoes." brooklyn! | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: Lammastide said: I'm joking... somewhat. I know full well I don't own my wife or her inclination to appreciate another male's beauty. But I do find it interesting that I'm more... er... "piqued" by another guy's appreciation for my wife than hers for him. I think my own particulars may skew my view: My wife and I are totally mismatched in at least one very obvious way. That she willfully sticks around despite this -- and she would definitely have options -- makes me really confident in her feelings for me and less threatened by anything visceral she might feel for some random stud.
...But, yeah, as a matter of mutual respect, neither of us would have some XXX throwdown ooglefest on a third party. It's just a bit tacky.
[Edited 3/22/08 19:04pm] Hence forth the I know you that well....
Great sidebar: You have cause to be less threatened and are comforted in that. Should she have similar confidence? In what way do you you recipicate this? Does she have confidence that you will stay the course? What is your mutual agreement? That's an important question. When I came out to my wife there obviously was a long learning curve in achieving a comfortable level of trust in me again. After all, I wasn't exactly who she thought I was for several years of our relationship! I think, though, that my being forthright about myself, laying myself bare, giving assurances I am faithful and actually living up to them offers great confidence. I REALLY like men! I make no attempt to skirt that notion. And I even tell her who I find attractive -- and vice versa. (I have better taste ) But I think I make it clear through action, intimacy, etc. that I appreciate her on levels far above what I feel for any guy. I think that level of transparency and active investment actually builds trust.
I can't possibly take all the credit, though. I know that no matter how noble I present myself after what we went through, our marriage wouldn't at all work without some level of forgiveness and, frankly, faith (on both our parts). She's an amazing woman. I'm very blessed to have her. [Edited 3/22/08 19:53pm] Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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ThreadBare said: Lammastide said: Have you SEEN me!?!?!
Wow...
"It's gotta be the shoes."
I'm SOOO joking. I'm like a step away from...  Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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OK, OK.. enough about me!!!  Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.” | |
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Lammastide said: ThreadBare said: Wow...
"It's gotta be the shoes."
I'm SOOO joking. I'm like a step away from... | |
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Lammastide said: ThreadBare said: Wow...
"It's gotta be the shoes."
I'm SOOO joking. I'm like a step away from...  | |
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Lammastide said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Hence forth the I know you that well....
Great sidebar: You have cause to be less threatened and are comforted in that. Should she have similar confidence? In what way do you you recipicate this? Does she have confidence that you will stay the course? What is your mutual agreement? That's an important question. When I came out to my wife there obviously was a long learning curve in achieving a comfortable level of trust in me again. After all, I wasn't exactly who she thought I was for several years of our relationship! I think, though, that my being forthright about myself, laying myself bare, giving assurances I am faithful and actually living up to them offers great confidence. I REALLY like men! I make no attempt to skirt that notion. And I even tell her who I find attractive -- and vice versa. (I have better taste ) But I think I make it clear through action, intimacy, etc. that I appreciate her on levels far above what I feel for any guy. I think that level of transparency and active investment actually builds trust.
I can't possibly take all the credit, though. I know that no matter how noble I present myself after what we went through, our marriage wouldn't at all work without some level of forgiveness and, frankly, faith (on both our parts). She's an amazing woman. I'm very blessed to have her. [Edited 3/22/08 19:53pm] I honestly adore you as person and you well know this. I realize I say this a bit much, but I have always had great respect for honesty and candor. So I am not being false in any sense of the word. My thoughts are wrapped in female security. What guarantee does she have that this will work out long term ( beyond children) ? Is monogamy a part of your agreement? | |
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fhqwhgads said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: ROFLMAO! How are you guy? It's a beautiful morning, the F1 grand prix in Malaysia is coming up in a few hours and tonight there are 2 huge footy matches to enjoy. Mon is well, as am I. Golf is coming to stay on Tuesday for the first time in 6 months. Life is good. Life is good indeed! | |
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Lammastide said: OK, OK.. enough about me!!!
Oops! | |
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Lammastide said: OK, OK.. enough about me!!!
Oh, no you don't!!! You've outted yourself as a man with insight into landing a quality woman and building an honest marriage with her. Now, stay put... Because I got a bunch of questions...  | |
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Volitan said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Not convinced on its face, this would equate insecurity. Why do you relate it as so? Do you really believe it actually is? Huh? I mean to say, I am not convinced your position represents insecurity. | |
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USURPED!
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ThreadBare said: Lammastide said: OK, OK.. enough about me!!!
Oh, no you don't!!! You've outted yourself as a man with insight into landing a quality woman and building an honest marriage with her. Now, stay put... Because I got a bunch of questions... Ok? How are you my friend? | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: ThreadBare said: Oh, no you don't!!! You've outted yourself as a man with insight into landing a quality woman and building an honest marriage with her. Now, stay put... Because I got a bunch of questions... Ok? How are you my friend? I'm well, devoting more time to things that edify, less to unhealthy environments (my recent exit would spin your head. But, alas, Romans 8:28).
And, playing a LOT more music. Trying to do more of that, too. | |
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fhqwhgads said: USURPED!
 You are only a 12 hour flight away!
KEEP THIS IN MIND! | |
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fhqwhgads said: USURPED!
PS next time photoshop out the original ( 2nd from bottom) ... then again usurp looses its meaning... which brings me back to flight arrangments... You know Mon would support me! | |
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Muse2NOPharaoh said: fhqwhgads said: USURPED!
PS next time photoshop out the original ( 2nd from bottom) ... then again usurp looses its meaning... which brings me back to flight arrangments... You know Mon would support me! Notice how if it dropped a little further it'd be 'done'. | |
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ThreadBare said: Muse2NOPharaoh said: Ok? How are you my friend? I'm well, devoting more time to things that edify, less to unhealthy environments (my recent exit would spin your head. But, alas, Romans 8:28).
And, playing a LOT more music. Trying to do more of that, too. No surprise at all.... strong move. Sometimes, that is it in and of itself with him... Ever thought of that? Just when we think we might be off course we fail to see we aced the test! | |
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