Efan said:

In my opinion, men are not exploited in straight porn. It's all pleasure for them. They are the ones inflicting pain/discomfort, getting but not giving. It's a win/win situation for them.

If anyone watched the Pornucopia series, they would know the men are the exploited ones. Most of the women agreed it was a woman's industry. The woman controls who she sleeps with and what she will and won't do

My initial thought is that anyone involved in pornography makes a choice to do so, and therefore no. But purely from an aesthetic viewpoint, it's hard to argue otherwise.

violator said:

I think some girls got into it kind of by circumstance. Not exactly what they meant to be doing with their lives. The money ends up being too good to hold down a normal job after that.

ZombieKitten said:

That's kind of like saying,"I'm only stripping to pay for college."

Not so much.

Dance said:

substitute college with substance abuse

Dance said:

substitute college with substance abuse

Dance said:

substitute college with substance abuse

ZombieKitten said:

not everyone infront of the camera has substance abuse issues or high.

Dance said:

While I agree that there are a lot of people who willingly get into porn and even get their kicks out of being porn superstars, you're right in that just about all professional porn stars have some type of horrible back story involving abuse, neglect, addiction, or molestation. It's finding out about this stuff that turned me from an excited fan to an ambivalent viewer of porn. It's hard to enjoy the fantasy of those sex scenes when you know that the performers are basically psychologically damaged in some form.

The other sightly more disturbing development in porn is the creation of gonzo movies, or what should really be called "jack crack". It used to be that there would be at least an attempt to create a plotline in a porn movie, however flimsy it was, but now there are massive subgenres of pornos that go straight into the sex act and dispense with any plot whatsoever. Now you get videos like "Anal Assassins", "Big Black Booties", or "Cum Sucking Sluts" that are made just for primarily male viewers to use as a sexual aid. That's not to say that some of these aren't hot; some of them are especially hot ; but it gives people a highly distorted and cheap view of sexuality that even sexually healthy and highly horny people can't live up to.

728huey said:

Gonzo is not made just for men. Most women I know have no interest in plot lines. They just tune in for the sex. I don't know anyone who bothers with those storyline porn movies - everyone watches gonzo.

ehuffnsd said:

no not everyone, but many, right? If we are making broad generalising statements that "women are in control, they are getting paid well, they want to do this" for every one of those there is one who is ashamed, lonely, lost and under pressure with a generous serve of self-loathing, not to mention any drugs they may or may not be using

JustErin said:

I HATE plotlines - bad acting is a turn-off

728huey said:

Gonzo is not made just for men. Most women I know have no interest in plot lines. They just tune in for the sex. I don't know anyone who bothers with those storyline porn movies - everyone watches gonzo.

ZombieKitten said:

i never stated women are in control. i've only mentioned the expection Jenna Jameson and that men are explotied in gay porn.

in the end humans exploted each other all the time

ehuffnsd said:

no not everyone, but many, right? If we are making broad generalising statements that "women are in control, they are getting paid well, they want to do this" for every one of those there is one who is ashamed, lonely, lost and under pressure with a generous serve of self-loathing, not to mention any drugs they may or may not be using

ehuffnsd said:

Yes, though I mean anyone who says that.

I would be very interested in your views on the porn industry

ZombieKitten said:

yes for every Tara Patrick & Jenna Jameson there are a hundred young (perhaps previously) abused girls on drugs getting screwed by a gang of sleazy men for hardly any money.

ZombieKitten said:

i have views more on certain studios more than on the industry. i know several people that work infront and behind the cameras at almost every single major gay studio and many of the smaller ones. i can see both sides of the coin. my own exploits in the industry some have been positive others have been negative but most of the people are good people but because of the way society is we tend to view sex nudity and other things as seedy.

NDRU said:

from what i know about straight porn, women do make more...

ehuffnsd said:

so basically, if you get in with the right studio, that's well regulated, with a family atmosphere and good support network, you are in an empowered situation and can call the shots. Are there really such places that operate totally professionally and treat their employees very well? (I would imagine that should be on the rise, but perhaps not).

ehuffnsd said:

yes I know, but is "more" really enough? Women get paid more, but men have longer careers.

DesertEskimo said:

yeah there are some really great family studios that treat their models extrememly well. several gay studios are strongly antidrug on set, or as best as they can, because it messes with the quality of the video. the studios do realize their income does come from the welfare of the models. they have to have a product.

NDRU said:

when porn is geared to the males, who are more visual creatures than women, they have to keep changing up the models the male is attracted to ensure they contiune buying new product and don't get bored. it's knowning your market. there times myself where if find myself going on no not so and so again in another movie.

ehuffnsd said:

exactly, and I hope more studios come to realise this.

ehuffnsd said:

I understand that, definitely, but again that doesn't rule out exploitation. It's the nature of the business, but that business may still exploit young women.