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Reply #30 posted 03/18/08 9:59am

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javier got the money. remember when Tommy Lee was behind the door of the next room at the end? when he got out he found the next room's door open and it's AC vent put down.
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Reply #31 posted 03/18/08 10:01am

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PricelessHo said:

javier got the money. remember when Tommy Lee was behind the door of the next room at the end? when he got out he found the next room's door open and it's AC vent put down.

If that's true.....why were the Mexicans is such a rush 2 leave during the shootout? They were there 4 one reason, 2 find that money.

Also, why would the villian have still been there hours later if he had the money?
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Reply #32 posted 03/18/08 10:04am

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sextonseven said:

Graycap23 said:


lol.....I've seen it twice also. 2 questions:

Do u think he killed the wife at the end?
Did he find the money or did the Mexicans find the money?


Yes, Anton killed Llewelyn's wife.

Anton killed Llewelyn and got his money back.

Was I wrong when I said in this movie the bad guy wins? smile

I thought he killed the wife, because he didn't get the money from Llewelyn(he also checks the bottom of his boots to make sure there isn't blood on them) . He said he would kill Llewelyn anyways, and BTW, I liked this movie, reminds me of real life, this movie doesn't fall in line with the classic formulas, bad guy gets away, sweet heroine gets killed in the end and the "hero" throws in the towel. cool

Oh and when the boy hands him a shirt... is that one of the bills that he got from the case of money?
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Reply #33 posted 03/18/08 10:07am

Graycap23

paintedlady said:



Oh and when the boy hands him a shirt... is that one of the bills that he got from the case of money?

Don't know. How did the villian know 2 go 2 that hotel in the 1st place? The tracker was gone and it was in another town.
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Reply #34 posted 03/18/08 10:09am

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Graycap23 said:

paintedlady said:



Oh and when the boy hands him a shirt... is that one of the bills that he got from the case of money?

Don't know. How did the villian know 2 go 2 that hotel in the 1st place? The tracker was gone and it was in another town.

Remember the well dressed Mexican that was pumping 'ol grandma for info at the bus station as they got out the taxi? He asked her where she was headed to when he was helping her with her suitcase.
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Reply #35 posted 03/18/08 10:11am

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the mexicans fled the police for they shot Llewelyn after his mother-in-law gave his adress away, plus they didn't get to find the money for they didn't know where it's hidden (nor had the time to i guess), as opposed to javier who knew its place beforehand (as shown earlier in the film).

as for Javier's last car accident scene, from what i can recall he seemed to have hidden the money already but kept some big bills on him (from which he bribes the kid to keep silent).
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Reply #36 posted 03/18/08 10:31am

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PricelessHo said:

the mexicans fled the police for they shot Llewelyn after his mother-in-law gave his adress away, plus they didn't get to find the money for they didn't know where it's hidden (nor had the time to i guess), as opposed to javier who knew its place beforehand (as shown earlier in the film).

as for Javier's last car accident scene, from what i can recall he seemed to have hidden the money already but kept some big bills on him (from which he bribes the kid to keep silent).


Most likely. The movie intentionally keeps some things from being absolutely certain.

Chigurh likely found the money, not the mexicans, as the opened vent showed some coins by it. It was likely unscrewed by him, in the same way shown in a previous scene. However, this can't be confirmed by the scene where he pays the kids the money, IMO. We know that before that scene, the wife's mother died of cancer. Before Llewelyn was killed, she had cancer, but appeared to be pretty healthy and self-reliant. This suggests to me that, at a minimum, a few months passed between the scenes. The idea that a guy having a 100 dollar bill months later must mean it is from the case is a stretch to say the least. But we also know that he didn't go to his wife to get the money, but to keep a promise to Llewellyn. Something tells me a man like Chigurh wouldn't worry about that until his first job was done.

Llewelyn's wife likely died, as stated earlier, because Chigurh checked his boots. He is always avoiding blood on his feet in the movie, even throwing away his socks at one point.

There were two doors taped off at the crime scene, suggesting, I believe, that chirgurh was in the second room. I need to watch it again to see if the lock is blown out in the establishing shot, of both rooms. Tommy Lee chose one of the two rooms, with some apprehension. I think, he more-or-less, called it like a coin toss, but he walked into and confronted his fate.

Most likely, the reason both rooms were taped off, is because Llewellyn rented both rooms so he could access the money through the vent again. Or it could be that's where the girl in the pool was staying. It's hard to say with absolute certainty. It could be they just didn't have him in the room when tommy opened it to resurrect the ghost metaphor that Ross represented. I used to think that Chigurh represented a sort of amoral grim reaper, not really bad or good, just detached from life, deciding the fate of his victims randomly.

If I had to guess as to how Chigurh found Llewelyn, it was that he was killed by the mexicans, the shoot out was on the news, and he just extrapolated, simple as that. He did not know where Llewelyn was going, but the mexicans did, so I can't see any other way.
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Reply #37 posted 03/18/08 11:42am

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Graycap23 said:

sextonseven said:

But I believe Anton screwed open the air vent looking for the money which is why I think he got it.

If he had gotten the money, he would not have still been there when the cop showed up hours later.....maybe, unless he had just gotton there, which means he could not have killed Lou.
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Anton definitely got the money. Llewelyn hid it in the vent like before and like before, Anton used a dime to unscrew the vent.
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Reply #38 posted 03/18/08 11:43am

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savoirfaire said:

PricelessHo said:

the mexicans fled the police for they shot Llewelyn after his mother-in-law gave his adress away, plus they didn't get to find the money for they didn't know where it's hidden (nor had the time to i guess), as opposed to javier who knew its place beforehand (as shown earlier in the film).

as for Javier's last car accident scene, from what i can recall he seemed to have hidden the money already but kept some big bills on him (from which he bribes the kid to keep silent).


Most likely. The movie intentionally keeps some things from being absolutely certain.

Chigurh likely found the money, not the mexicans, as the opened vent showed some coins by it. It was likely unscrewed by him, in the same way shown in a previous scene. However, this can't be confirmed by the scene where he pays the kids the money, IMO. We know that before that scene, the wife's mother died of cancer. Before Llewelyn was killed, she had cancer, but appeared to be pretty healthy and self-reliant. This suggests to me that, at a minimum, a few months passed between the scenes. The idea that a guy having a 100 dollar bill months later must mean it is from the case is a stretch to say the least. But we also know that he didn't go to his wife to get the money, but to keep a promise to Llewellyn. Something tells me a man like Chigurh wouldn't worry about that until his first job was done.

Llewelyn's wife likely died, as stated earlier, because Chigurh checked his boots. He is always avoiding blood on his feet in the movie, even throwing away his socks at one point.

There were two doors taped off at the crime scene, suggesting, I believe, that chirgurh was in the second room. I need to watch it again to see if the lock is blown out in the establishing shot, of both rooms. Tommy Lee chose one of the two rooms, with some apprehension. I think, he more-or-less, called it like a coin toss, but he walked into and confronted his fate.

Most likely, the reason both rooms were taped off, is because Llewellyn rented both rooms so he could access the money through the vent again. Or it could be that's where the girl in the pool was staying. It's hard to say with absolute certainty. It could be they just didn't have him in the room when tommy opened it to resurrect the ghost metaphor that Ross represented. I used to think that Chigurh represented a sort of amoral grim reaper, not really bad or good, just detached from life, deciding the fate of his victims randomly.

If I had to guess as to how Chigurh found Llewelyn, it was that he was killed by the mexicans, the shoot out was on the news, and he just extrapolated, simple as that. He did not know where Llewelyn was going, but the mexicans did, so I can't see any other way.


Sounds good to me. smile
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Reply #39 posted 03/18/08 11:51am

Graycap23

sextonseven said:

savoirfaire said:



Most likely. The movie intentionally keeps some things from being absolutely certain.

Chigurh likely found the money, not the mexicans, as the opened vent showed some coins by it. It was likely unscrewed by him, in the same way shown in a previous scene. However, this can't be confirmed by the scene where he pays the kids the money, IMO. We know that before that scene, the wife's mother died of cancer. Before Llewelyn was killed, she had cancer, but appeared to be pretty healthy and self-reliant. This suggests to me that, at a minimum, a few months passed between the scenes. The idea that a guy having a 100 dollar bill months later must mean it is from the case is a stretch to say the least. But we also know that he didn't go to his wife to get the money, but to keep a promise to Llewellyn. Something tells me a man like Chigurh wouldn't worry about that until his first job was done.

Llewelyn's wife likely died, as stated earlier, because Chigurh checked his boots. He is always avoiding blood on his feet in the movie, even throwing away his socks at one point.

There were two doors taped off at the crime scene, suggesting, I believe, that chirgurh was in the second room. I need to watch it again to see if the lock is blown out in the establishing shot, of both rooms. Tommy Lee chose one of the two rooms, with some apprehension. I think, he more-or-less, called it like a coin toss, but he walked into and confronted his fate.

Most likely, the reason both rooms were taped off, is because Llewellyn rented both rooms so he could access the money through the vent again. Or it could be that's where the girl in the pool was staying. It's hard to say with absolute certainty. It could be they just didn't have him in the room when tommy opened it to resurrect the ghost metaphor that Ross represented. I used to think that Chigurh represented a sort of amoral grim reaper, not really bad or good, just detached from life, deciding the fate of his victims randomly.

If I had to guess as to how Chigurh found Llewelyn, it was that he was killed by the mexicans, the shoot out was on the news, and he just extrapolated, simple as that. He did not know where Llewelyn was going, but the mexicans did, so I can't see any other way.


Sounds good to me. smile

I'll go with that.
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Reply #40 posted 03/18/08 12:12pm

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Graycap23 said:

paisleypark4 said:

I HATED the last 15 minutes...WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!!!??? Im glad i didnt buy it.

It was so good until it just completely fell off the bandwagon and left me with alot of questions. Plus a dumb ending

I thought that at 1st.....but on second look, the ending makes perfect sense.

woot!
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Reply #41 posted 03/18/08 12:17pm

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One of the best movies I've seen in a while (and I watch a lot of movies!). Amazing something so dark and nihilistic won an academy award. I think the academy is getting smarter lately.

Yes, the wife was killed.

but gosh, I thought the money was still sitting under the bridge! lol That's a movie that requires a couple viewings at least and I only saw it once!
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Reply #42 posted 03/18/08 12:18pm

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One of the best movies I've seen in a while (and I watch a lot of movies!). Amazing something so dark and nihilistic won an academy award. I think the academy is getting smarter lately.

Yes, the wife was killed.

but gosh, I thought the money was still sitting under the bridge! lol That's a movie that requires a couple viewings at least and I only saw it once!

It requires more than one viewing.....no doubt.
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Reply #43 posted 03/18/08 1:33pm

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Graycap23 said:

heartbeatocean said:

One of the best movies I've seen in a while (and I watch a lot of movies!). Amazing something so dark and nihilistic won an academy award. I think the academy is getting smarter lately.

Yes, the wife was killed.

but gosh, I thought the money was still sitting under the bridge! lol That's a movie that requires a couple viewings at least and I only saw it once!

It requires more than one viewing.....no doubt.

I only seen it once myself, and yeah, that flick needs more than one viewing nod
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Reply #44 posted 03/24/08 8:56am

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I saw it for the second time yesterday. Wow, it's even better the second time! I got very emotional at the ending.
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Reply #45 posted 03/24/08 9:33am

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I watched it four times in one day, I liked it so much. Still don't get why they ended it that way. confuse
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