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Reply #60 posted 03/08/08 6:04pm

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I first got hipped to Kim when info about a sex tape involving her and Ray J (who I wasn't hipped to either) got out. I had seen Kim before but didn't know her name. I always thought she was fine. I saw clips of her show with her family ( a show that I don't watch) where Reggie Bush was on there. It was scenes where Kim's grown sister (who's also cute) was talking about Kim's new boyfriend, Reggie, and how she's really into him. And out here in L.A., it's in the news on a few of the entertainment shows. Of course my first thought was "Cool...obviously she's into bruthas." Kim is going against the grain, by Hollywood standards, by being attached publicly to black men. It's not common to see a young attractive non black woman in Hollywood do this. They'll get with a brutha behind close doors, but not many will step out in broad daylight in front of the cameras with him. I tip my hat to Kim because I say at least she's not scary. Just commenting.





I haven't seen the video either, but heard about it. Yeah, she's fine. Kourtney has a pretty nice shape too. I peeped the show for the first time last week. And yes she's into brutha's, Ray J, Nick Cannon, Reggie are the ones that I've heard about. You know it's hard to believe that whites or others, dating non-blacks is against the grain..in Tinseltown.

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Reply #61 posted 03/08/08 6:31pm

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I understand how the Hollywood machine works and all, but does this woman really need to be given props for who she dates?

I dunno, it feels weird...almost like thanking someone for bestowing us with their preference and presence in our "community". confuse .
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Reply #62 posted 03/08/08 6:43pm

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I understand how the Hollywood machine works and all, but does this woman really need to be given props for who she dates?

I dunno, it feels weird...almost like thanking someone for bestowing us with their preference and presence in our "community". confuse .

Nah player,...I'm not thanking her at all. And I never stated anything remotely close to that.
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Reply #63 posted 03/08/08 6:50pm

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Ottensen said:

I understand how the Hollywood machine works and all, but does this woman really need to be given props for who she dates?

I dunno, it feels weird...almost like thanking someone for bestowing us with their preference and presence in our "community". confuse .

Nah player,...I'm not thanking her at all. And I never stated anything remotely close to that.

Oh and sorry for calling u "player". I just assumed u were a dude for some reason.
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Reply #64 posted 03/08/08 7:06pm

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Ottensen said:

I understand how the Hollywood machine works and all, but does this woman really need to be given props for who she dates?

I dunno, it feels weird...almost like thanking someone for bestowing us with their preference and presence in our "community". confuse .

Nah player,...I'm not thanking her at all. And I never stated anything remotely close to that.


But you do realize how it sounds...tipping your hat to a woman because she dates black men openly in Hollywood, where it's perhaps considered taboo...? It sounds as if you're somehow thanking her.

It's just odd to me... for example, people have always made much of the fact Robert DeNiro has openly dated and is married to a black woman, but being a black woman myself I never felt that any hat should be tipped to him. Anytime any mention has been made of his preference for black women, I've just always felt, "okay, whatever...long as folks are happy shrug" Who he chooses to involve himself with romantically doesn't really affect my view on his lifelong contribution to cinema, ...which, by the way, who is this Kardashian girl again? Why is she famous? I'm one of the late ones and have no idea who she is...I've seen her on some sites showing celeb fashion photo ops, but honestly, that's all I know of her.
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Reply #65 posted 03/08/08 7:10pm

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Nah player,...I'm not thanking her at all. And I never stated anything remotely close to that.

Oh and sorry for calling u "player". I just assumed u were a dude for some reason.


No problem, Sweetie. Online demeanor nonwithstanding, if you saw me in person you'd know that I'm, shall we say, a very soft spoken, hyperfemine feminine girl wink
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Reply #66 posted 03/08/08 7:18pm

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Nah player,...I'm not thanking her at all. And I never stated anything remotely close to that.


But you do realize how it sounds...tipping your hat to a woman because she dates black men openly in Hollywood, where it's perhaps considered taboo...? It sounds as if you're somehow thanking her.

That's too bad if that's what u get from it. Because that's way of base and anyone who comes to THAT conclusion truly missed what I was saying. But that's cool too, because I know what I stated was clear and wasn't complicated.
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Reply #67 posted 03/08/08 7:19pm

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I haven't seen the video either, but heard about it. Yeah, she's fine. Kourtney has a pretty nice shape too. I peeped the show for the first time last week. And yes she's into brutha's, Ray J, Nick Cannon, Reggie are the ones that I've heard about. You know it's hard to believe that whites or others, dating non-blacks is against the grain..in Tinseltown.

Aye, would that Wither's tune be "Use Me"... "jus' keep on using me.., until you use me up".
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Yeah,..Nick Cannon. I knew it was another brother in the mix when I was writing the thread but I couldn't remember the cat's name so I left it out. Yeah, that's the Bill cut but Dance beat u to it.



lol yep I was super late. Hey we can't forget she was married to a brutha too.
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Reply #68 posted 03/08/08 7:20pm

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Oh and sorry for calling u "player". I just assumed u were a dude for some reason.


No problem, Sweetie. Online demeanor nonwithstanding, if you saw me in person you'd know that I'm, shall we say, a very soft spoken, hyperfemine feminine girl wink

Aaaah,..sounds cool to me.
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Reply #69 posted 03/08/08 7:44pm

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That's what I'm sayin'.


So you like they way she looks AND you're just hyped on thinking you may have a shot cuz she bangs black dudes? confuse


lawd....lol

Haha..truth be told..I think I would have a shot at her even if she wasn't into black dudes. And I never stated that I was "into" Kim either. Only reference I made was that yes, I think the girl is pretty, but I dig her sister a little mo' better. Did I not state that? ...I believe I stated that.
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Reply #70 posted 03/08/08 7:50pm

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Oh Ms. Kardashian. I'm going to throw up if I have to witness another sit down, pleading for the public to recognize her for something more than Ray J's fuck in their made for public home-video. What else is there girl, your record number of eager young men you've managed to attach yourself to in the course of 2 years? lol
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Reply #71 posted 03/08/08 8:27pm

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Oh Ms. Kardashian. I'm going to throw up if I have to witness another sit down, pleading for the public to recognize her for something more than Ray J's fuck in their made for public home-video. What else is there girl, your record number of eager young men you've managed to attach yourself to in the course of 2 years? lol

I don't disagree that publicity isn't a motive. That's possible. If we were to stay on that road, that reminds me of Dennis Rodman. Here's something ELSE for some of ya'll to flip out over. I always felt that non black women were getting with Dennis to gain more publicity. Not saying that they couldn't have been into Dennis because I believed they were. But at Dennis's peak, nobody stood out more than Dennis. Madonna, Carmen Electra...Now obviously the arguement from some will be "Oh HELL NO! Not Madonna...she didn't need the publicity. She was just truly into him." Was she? Carmen actually married Rodman. But yet, they lived in seperate houses. Why get married then? Point being, publicity "could" be the case in all of these scenerios. Kim's included.
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Reply #72 posted 03/08/08 8:37pm

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BG, you're on the right track. Publicity is a motivator like a mutha. It's all about drawing in the photo op's , and free publicity. Risky stunts helped her gain own reality show and earn more cash.
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Reply #73 posted 03/08/08 8:42pm

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Oh Ms. Kardashian. I'm going to throw up if I have to witness another sit down, pleading for the public to recognize her for something more than Ray J's fuck in their made for public home-video. What else is there girl, your record number of eager young men you've managed to attach yourself to in the course of 2 years? lol

I don't disagree that publicity isn't a motive. That's possible. If we were to stay on that road, that reminds me of Dennis Rodman. Here's something ELSE for some of ya'll to flip out over. I always felt that non black women were getting with Dennis to gain more publicity. Not saying that they couldn't have been into Dennis because I believed they were. But at Dennis's peak, nobody stood out more than Dennis. Madonna, Carmen Electra...Now obviously the arguement from some will be "Oh HELL NO! Not Madonna...she didn't need the publicity. She was just truly into him." Was she? Carmen actually married Rodman. But yet, they lived in seperate houses. Why get married then? Point being, publicity "could" be the case in all of these scenerios. Kim's included.

She's definitely a publicity whore, that's something I wouldn't try to argue. It's just her way of going about it, as if she was doing a considerable amount of commendable deeds that were overlooked before the infamous sex tape made it's around viral rounds. And oh yeah, being a good "friend" of Paris Hilton.
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Reply #74 posted 03/08/08 8:51pm

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He may very well be thinking that, but he also said that what he sees normally (he says he's in the entertainment business) is a lot of celebs having interracial relationships but they do it on the down low because of some stupid fear of it getting out...he said that Kim is dating this dude out in the open, not caring...and this is what he's giving her props for.

Does she deserve props for this? I dunno. I'm not sure why anyone should get any kind of props for just dating who they feel like dating...whatever race they may be.

See uh,...I didn't even have to respond to ya'll because I knew my girl E had my back.

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Reply #75 posted 03/08/08 9:01pm

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GoActive said:

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I don't disagree that publicity isn't a motive. That's possible. If we were to stay on that road, that reminds me of Dennis Rodman. Here's something ELSE for some of ya'll to flip out over. I always felt that non black women were getting with Dennis to gain more publicity. Not saying that they couldn't have been into Dennis because I believed they were. But at Dennis's peak, nobody stood out more than Dennis. Madonna, Carmen Electra...Now obviously the arguement from some will be "Oh HELL NO! Not Madonna...she didn't need the publicity. She was just truly into him." Was she? Carmen actually married Rodman. But yet, they lived in seperate houses. Why get married then? Point being, publicity "could" be the case in all of these scenerios. Kim's included.

She's definitely a publicity whore, that's something I wouldn't try to argue. It's just her way of going about it, as if she was doing a considerable amount of commendable deeds that were overlooked before the infamous sex tape made it's around viral rounds. And oh yeah, being a good "friend" of Paris Hilton.

Man, I was a 1/4 of an inch away from mentioning Paris in the thread. And this is what I was going to mention; Obviously Kim has learned a few things from Paris but Paris was one of the women I was refering to as to sweeping shit up under the rug. I know this cat who has been a doorman/bouncer at exclusive night spots for years out here in So. Cal. He told me 3 years ago that he was working as security in this club that Paris was a regular at. That he would see Paris slipping out a secret side door, that all major clubs have, when she was leaving with a black dude. Cats with flashbulbs were always out front when they knew Paris was inside but when Paris was about to jet with a white dude, she would exit out the front. Where all the cameramen were. But whenever she was leaving with a brutha.....she shook the spot from the secret exit.
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Reply #76 posted 03/08/08 9:08pm

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She's definitely a publicity whore, that's something I wouldn't try to argue. It's just her way of going about it, as if she was doing a considerable amount of commendable deeds that were overlooked before the infamous sex tape made it's around viral rounds. And oh yeah, being a good "friend" of Paris Hilton.

Man, I was a 1/4 of an inch away from mentioning Paris in the thread. And this is what I was going to mention; Obviously Kim has learned a few things from Paris but Paris was one of the women I was refering to as to sweeping shit up under the rug. I know this cat who has been a doorman/bouncer at exclusive night spots for years out here in So. Cal. He told me 3 years ago that he was working as security in this club that Paris was a regular at. That he would see Paris slipping out a secret side door, that all major clubs have, when she was leaving with a black dude. Cats with flashbulbs were always out front when they knew Paris was inside but when Paris was about to jet with a white dude, she would exit out the front. Where all the cameramen were. But whenever she was leaving with a brutha.....she shook the spot from the secret exit.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Afterall, this is the woman who was taped freely using the racial epithet that's normally flung at blacks. Now if you're a black man of some status (Diddy, Lil' Jon), Paris has no problem with a photo-op. Let's not forget she has a black bff in Nicole Richie lol
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Reply #77 posted 03/08/08 9:10pm

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Ok, so white women date black men and hide it or they just do it for publicity?

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Reply #78 posted 03/08/08 9:14pm

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Ok, so white women date black men and hide it or they just do it for publicity?

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I don't think it's true of ALL white women in America, but unfortunately a select few do.
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Reply #79 posted 03/08/08 9:16pm

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GoActive said:

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Man, I was a 1/4 of an inch away from mentioning Paris in the thread. And this is what I was going to mention; Obviously Kim has learned a few things from Paris but Paris was one of the women I was refering to as to sweeping shit up under the rug. I know this cat who has been a doorman/bouncer at exclusive night spots for years out here in So. Cal. He told me 3 years ago that he was working as security in this club that Paris was a regular at. That he would see Paris slipping out a secret side door, that all major clubs have, when she was leaving with a black dude. Cats with flashbulbs were always out front when they knew Paris was inside but when Paris was about to jet with a white dude, she would exit out the front. Where all the cameramen were. But whenever she was leaving with a brutha.....she shook the spot from the secret exit.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Afterall, this is the woman who was taped freely using the racial epithet that's normally flung at blacks. Now if you're a black man of some status (Diddy, Lil' Jon), Paris has no problem with a photo-op. Let's not forget she has a black bff in Nicole Richie lol

Exactly. Sean and Lil Jon, totally different because their celebs themselves. But a bruh that she wanted to get buck wild with but he was unknown...I can hear him now "Uh Paris, I thought we were leaving?" "We are soooo leaving." "Well, why are we going down all of these stairs? The exit is back there." "Shhhhh...this is a better way."
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Ok, so white women date black men and hide it or they just do it for publicity?

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Both actually. It all depends on the parties involved. I just gave a flip side scenerio using Dennis when publicity was brought up.
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Reply #81 posted 03/08/08 9:22pm

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Dennis is a wild card.
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Doesn't surprise me in the least. Afterall, this is the woman who was taped freely using the racial epithet that's normally flung at blacks. Now if you're a black man of some status (Diddy, Lil' Jon), Paris has no problem with a photo-op. Let's not forget she has a black bff in Nicole Richie lol

Exactly. Sean and Lil Jon, totally different because their celebs themselves. But a bruh that she wanted to get buck wild with but he was unknown...I can hear him now "Uh Paris, I thought we were leaving?" "We are soooo leaving." "Well, why are we going down all of these stairs? The exit is back there." "Shhhhh...this is a better way."

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Exactly. Sean and Lil Jon, totally different because their celebs themselves. But a bruh that she wanted to get buck wild with but he was unknown...I can hear him now "Uh Paris, I thought we were leaving?" "We are soooo leaving." "Well, why are we going down all of these stairs? The exit is back there." "Shhhhh...this is a better way."

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I am so through with you for tonight lol

I can dig it!
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Reply #84 posted 03/09/08 1:23am

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this is the dumbest thread.

Some lame chick dates some black dudes...and she should get props for that..??


and how is Erin having you're back..she's saying its dumb to give props to anyone for dating whomever. The entire basis of this thread is to give props to a white chick for PUBLICLY "dating" black dudes.


I think you're changing what you're saying cuz folks aren't falling for it. If you didn't mean that you are giving props to kim for openly dating black men....then what are you doing?
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Actually, I thought BG was giving Kim props for breaking the Hollywood guidelines. Normally, girls like Kim who are attractive, "racially ambiguous" ethnic types align themselves in position to date famous white actors or directors. Although Kim is an obvious attention whore (being Paris's homegirl and all), it is stepping out of the box by openly dating a brotha, which is one of the cardinal sins in Hollywood. Let's look back at Paula Cole. She was popular with the 90210 crowd as the cool, neo-hippy chick until she took that brotha to the Grammys. Then, all of a sudden it was downhill for her. Kim is part of the Hollywood "it" crowd. How do you know? Because she has no talent and yet she's famous. She's a rich socialite and most of them only take black d**k on the down low. Its possible that her Hollywood circle made her the honorary "ethnic chick" because she's Armenian and she just decided to run with it and date men of color publicly. Odd move for someone in her position. Usually that type will forsake their desires for social status. I suspect that if her dad were still around, that might be the case. Since he's not, there's no one around to tell her not to "buck the system". Black men are still taboo among the rich white male dominated elite circles. I guess for that, you can say she's bold at the very least. The same attention whoring she's doing with Reggie Bush, Ray J and Nick Cannon could just as easily be done with Matthew McConaughey, Colin Ferrell and other more popular Hollywood men who are known for their adoration of "ethnic" women. Instead, she decided to "do her" so to speak and walk through the front door with brothas instead of slipping out through the kitchen exits. I can't hate her for that.
She's still "out there" to me, though. Its not about dating brothas so much as it is tearing down the racist walls of the social elite.

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Reply #86 posted 03/09/08 1:27am

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Actually, I thought BG was giving Kim props for breaking the Hollywood guidelines. Normally, girls like Kim who are attractive, "racially ambiguous" ethnic types align themselves in position to date famous white actors or directors. Although Kim is an obvious attention whore (being Paris's homegirl and all), it is stepping out of the box by openly dating a brotha, which is one of the cardinal sins in Hollywood. Let's look back at Paula Cole. She was popular with the 90210 crowd as the cool, neo-hippy chick until she took that brotha to the Grammys. Then, all of a sudden it was downhill for her. Kim is part of the Hollywood "it" crowd. How do you know? Because she has no talent and yet she's famous. She's a rich socialite and most of them only take black d**k on the down low. Its possible that her Hollywood circle made her the honorary "ethnic chick" because she's Armenian and she just decided to run with it and date men of color publicly. Odd move for someone in her position. Usually that type will forsake their desires for social status. I suspect that if her dad were still around, that might be the case. Since he's not, there's no one around to tell her not to "buck the system". Black men are still taboo among the rich white male dominated elite circles. I guess for that, you can say she's bold at the very least. The same attention whoring she's doing with Reggie Bush, Ray J and Nick Cannon could just as easily be done with Matthew McConaughey, Colin Ferrell and other more popular Hollywood men who are known for their adoration of "ethnic" women. Instead, she decided to "do her" so to speak and walk through the front door with brothas instead of slipping out through the kitchen exits. I can't hate her for that.
She's still "out there" to me, though.

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Reply #87 posted 03/09/08 1:31am

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You dudes are really buggin' out disbelief

Kim doesn't have anything to lose or gain....because she's a nontalent, party chick. Who really cares....
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Rhondab said:

You dudes are really buggin' out disbelief

Kim doesn't have anything to lose or gain....because she's a nontalent, party chick. Who really cares....

I think the biggest thing being ignored is that fucking a Black man is HOW she got famous in the first place, so WHY is it some kind of feat for her to continue to do this?? She sucked a Black dick on camera - WHY would she have a problem walking arm in arm w/ a Black man?? confuse

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I'm thinking that the girl is just attracted to black guys so she dates them...nothing more, nothing less.

Big whoop.
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