I`m sorry, but this is probably the stupidest show i`ve ever seen...

"Hi, what`s going on?"
"So, what were your plans for tonight"

Never heard of it.

I ordered Mad Men, I heard good stories.

I love it, but I didn't realize how much slack these guys get, until I saw this show. One guy showed up at a house, TWO DAYS before his trial for sexual misconduct with a minor. He got something like 10 month or a year. This other guy was a 7th grade teacher, got 8 months. One guy got 6. Bullshit. If you're trying to fuck kids, 10 YEARS, MINIMUM. We need harsher laws.

"oh, I dunno, maybe catch a few kids."
"I KNEW IT YOU FILTHY PERV"
"wait, what? I was joking"
"LOOK WE HAS BEEN WATCHING YOU BE DISGRACED ON TELEVISION YOUR DIRTY DIRTY HUMAN."

Everyone wants these guys to get caught but to use the situation as a form of entertainment is gross.

JustErin said:

Agreed!

I think the first time it aired it served as a nice wake up call for parents and society in general, an incredibly important story, even. Once it became a regular series, it became disgusting.

Shit....I clicked the wrong thread!!

I'm sorry but i wish this was on every night.
If you're chatting with someone online that says that they're 13 or whatever and you're dumb enough to try and go to their house for sex, then you should be on tv looking like an idiot.

although, have they done any new ones since the lawsuit with the guy that killed himself over being on the show?

It's all fine and dandy to embarrass the dude that's setting himself up but that dude is usually tied to a family - a wife, parents and children who will be totally embarrassed and probably even worse because they are indirectly being exposed as well. They didn't do anything wrong.

These shows are easy to mock; they are incredibly vile of course but they are also always a guilty pleasure to watch - as I frequently do.

The actual content of any given programme is fairly easy to predict: lie-detector tests and DNA sampling reveal that a partner has been cheating, or that the woman you thought you married is in fact a man or a paedophile. Screaming and shouting ensues, with the host operating in a strange hinterland between counsellor and ringmaster.

I don't think the tabloid content of these shows is their real appeal. I think the draw is that the kind of person who appears is so under-represented on our screens. In theory, there's no reason why people from across the social spectrum shouldn't appear on shows like this: presumably, stockbrokers marry transvestites, too.

it's the Jerry Springer show for the for those that claim that Jerry Springer is vile and mindless entertainment...

As has been covered, if they actually gave a shit about protecting kids, they would do real investigations and turn over the data to the cops to deal with. Dateline televises entrapment and broadcasts it as entertainment for a buck.

Mars23 said:

Exactly.

DexMSR said:

your free to leave

Mars23 said:

Wait a fucking minute.
HOW is it "entrapment"?
Person says their age is 13-15 and YOU engage them in sexual conversation.

How the hell is that "entrapment"?

ButterscotchPimp said:

technicaly you could call this show entrapment

but so the fuck what !!

these are pervs of the highest order in my book

bravo to that show

its easy to think that the predator is the victim cause your seeing

the presice moment as is he that life as he knew it is ofically over

thats some stark stuff

but i salute the show

if by putting it on tv it makes any of these apparently endless sea of

potential molestors think twice well then

its worth it in my book

Um, I don't think anyone said the predator is a victim in this.

I do not believe for one minute that this show acts as a deterrent for potential child molesters.

ButterscotchPimp said:

Well, the most relevant case law is probably Jacobson v. United States (503 U.S. 540 (1992). But entrapment is essentially the act of law enforcement inducing an otherwise innocent person to commit a crime.

You could also question if a crime was committed, as the people communicating with the target are adults, not children.

I have no wish to defend the actions of the people involved, but you asked how and that is the answer.

Mars23 said:

I get that you're playing devil's advocate, that's fine. I do it all the time.

"an otherwise innocent person".

The perv that's doing the chatting THINKS that the person they're chatting with is a child. Does it matter if they're not? Because the time that they get caught probably doesn't count for the times that they DON'T get caught.

JustErin said:

well being that some of them seem to come back twice you might have a point but

im saying

if it stops even one then theres merit

public humiliation can be a form of deterent i would venture in some cases

call me crazy

ButterscotchPimp said:

Do these guys even get formally charged and convicted of anything resulting from these set ups?

well its not entrapment in my book

these fucks need to get caught any way possible

and to me the public humilation is better than jail

theres no rehabing these magots i think thats been proven

JustErin said:

i believe they do some of them

ButterscotchPimp said:

Really, I am just trying to express my disgust for that show. There are many better ways to go about catching the guilty and it doesn't have to be done for profit. Like I said, if they actually cared about the kids, it would be done correctly and not broadcast.

Hell, the President can wiretap and monitor internet usage without a warrant, I'm sure Dateline could get in on it. It is actually legal to do so right now.

Mars23 said:

i still say the public outinging on a nationaly televised scale of someone

who is supposodly an upstanding citizen in there day life is

a damn good thing

shausler said:

Like I said already, it may be somewhat effective to publicly humiliate someone that has been convicted of a crime but in the case of this show, the only real victims are the families of the guys being set up since there was no crime actually committed. They are the ones that will have to deal with the whole guilty by association stigma. After all, this is a show and will be looked at by a massive audience watching it for entertainment purposes.

I, like Mars23, believe that there are better ways to deal with the whole issue of internet predators.

shausler said:

I agree to an extent, but I think they sensationalize it by having 1-2 hour programs that go as far as to have a child meet them as they come in, then after busting them, they go on to read the emails sent and etc...if they wanna humiliate the pedos, just post their face on tv, say they are pedos and move on...spare the lurid details...

JustErin said:

well some of those chat transcripts are pretty rude and nasty is all im sayin

plus i have kids so my perspective is

jail those fuckers and throw away the key


but your point is not lost on my

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