Ottensen said: Imago said: see??? I'm not crazy then! Women really do distrust bi-sexual men. Not because they're bi-sexual, but because their's always a prevailing thought that they are just gay and not fully coming to terms with it! I think you're right....both right, actually. EXCEEEEPT in the cases of chicks like me: the refusal to become involved with a bi-guy is more about my ego and not wanting to deal with double the competition for another's affections. It's completely juvenile on my part, but while I believe it's entirely possible for a person to authentically connect with both sexes, I don't want the added (yet embraced and expected) issue of them being able to go after Judy AND John if I'm trying to make it with them. Additionally, for me I don't think that bi-sexual men are automatically qualified as 'just gay', rather than seeing them as 'this is a human being who needs certain physical attributes (and others) that I will NEVER be able to supply him with 100%', so why set myself up for the ineveitable failure that will eventually arrive when he needs to go out there and discover his destiny within psycho-psysiological connection of another man, his other mirror...? I think some people can work with that, but I'm not one of them. I need the focus to be all about ME, which is enough in itself with all the cute girlies out there: don't need to have the cute guys lining up around the corner too for the object of my affection. I suppose I look at the issue in a very unevolved, animal kingdom-cougarish- self-presevation kind of way Oh for the love of God. Contrary to what you apparently believe, bi folk ARE capable of monogamy, just like anybody else. The idea that a bi person is inevitably going to cheat because they can't be "100% satisfied" is just as stupid as saying straight men will inevitably cheat because they still think Halle Berry's hot even after they're married. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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I've been lurking through this thread and it's been very interesting. It always makes me laugh when I hear someone think that it isn't possible for men too be bi but women can. That's dumb as hell but that's the society we live in. It's a shame that more men can't get down with another guy because they're afraid.
While I was in the military, it seemed that all I ever got with was Bi men and there was no doubt at all that they were bi cause these guys had wives or girlfriends. One of them was a known womanizer so I was shocked when he started to holla at me. Today, and no offense to the Bi men here but I wouldn't date a Bi guy. Absolutely not. With the experiences that I had and the thought of "What if he leaves me for a woman?" would be all in my mind. Being with a gay guy, at least I can fight the guy if my man was stupid enough to cheat on me (and that's if he's even worth fighting for) but I can't beat a woman up or I'll go to jail and that shit ain't happening. I might change my tune if I met one again and we hit it off but I just don't know. Maybe I'm ignorant but that's where I am with this. Great thread. [Edited 2/27/08 13:10pm] I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Imago said: No one in my family knows. None one at work knows. And some of my girlfriends didn't know, though the last one did--but she's bi-sexual . It depends on how inconvenient revealing the matter is in my life as to whether I'm open about anything--the org, well, the org is a all-things-are-cool playground though And it's not a 50/50 thing either. I'm alot like FunkMistress in that regards. I think she strongly leaned towards liking women, but found the right guy in her life, and is madly in love with him. Either way, it's not something I think about that often cause I have sooooo many other emotional issues to work through right now. Sorry, I made an assumption, knowing full better about making such things. Anyway, right now, all I can go by is on what I'm told or seen and I haven't seen much evidence that says to the contrary. Like you said above both end up with men. Be nice if some "long-termer" chimed in, but what are the odds. | |
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Imago said: roodboi said: depending on where you want that kiss... I'll have a kitesurfing kit soon you know. Just sayin' looks like I might be getting one too... Just sayin'... | |
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purplecam said: I've been lurking through this thread and it's been very interesting. It always makes me laugh when I hear someone think that it isn't possible for men too be bi but women can. That's dumb as hell but that's the society we live in. It's a shame that more men can't get down with another guy because they're afraid.
While I was in the military, it seemed that all I ever got with was Bi men and there was no doubt at all that they were bi cause these guys had wives or girlfriends. One of them was a known womanizer so I was shocked when he started to holla at me. Today, and no offense to the Bi men here but I wouldn't date a Bi guy. Absolutely not. With the experiences that I had and the thought of "What if he leaves me for a woman?" would be all in my mind. Being with a gay guy, at least I can fight the guy if my man was stupid enough to cheat on me (and that's if he's even worth fighting for) but I can't beat a woman up or I'll go to jail and that shit ain't happening. I might change my tune if I met one again and we hit it off but I just don't know. Maybe I'm ignorant but that's where I am with this. Great thread. [Edited 2/27/08 13:10pm] Someone who's bi is no more likely to cheat than someone who only swings one way. Sure, it could happen, but it's no more likely to. And why would you fight the other person in the first place? Yeah, that'll charm your partner back to you, for sure. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: purplecam said: I've been lurking through this thread and it's been very interesting. It always makes me laugh when I hear someone think that it isn't possible for men too be bi but women can. That's dumb as hell but that's the society we live in. It's a shame that more men can't get down with another guy because they're afraid.
While I was in the military, it seemed that all I ever got with was Bi men and there was no doubt at all that they were bi cause these guys had wives or girlfriends. One of them was a known womanizer so I was shocked when he started to holla at me. Today, and no offense to the Bi men here but I wouldn't date a Bi guy. Absolutely not. With the experiences that I had and the thought of "What if he leaves me for a woman?" would be all in my mind. Being with a gay guy, at least I can fight the guy if my man was stupid enough to cheat on me (and that's if he's even worth fighting for) but I can't beat a woman up or I'll go to jail and that shit ain't happening. I might change my tune if I met one again and we hit it off but I just don't know. Maybe I'm ignorant but that's where I am with this. Great thread. [Edited 2/27/08 13:10pm] Someone who's bi is no more likely to cheat than someone who only swings one way. Sure, it could happen, but it's no more likely to. And why would you fight the other person in the first place? Yeah, that'll charm your partner back to you, for sure. Yeah I guess you're right. But someone would have to pay, ya know? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Imago said: It's a turnoff for alot of girls ,cause many believe you're just 'gay' but not fully coming to terms with it. They don't really think you love their sweet sweet vaginas as much or more than the pen0r.
I think that's not exactly true. I think most girls would be ok with a guy who is sure of his sexuality than one who pretended for her sake. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Imago said: It's a turnoff for alot of girls ,cause many believe you're just 'gay' but not fully coming to terms with it. They don't really think you love their sweet sweet vaginas as much or more than the pen0r.
I think that's not exactly true. I think most girls would be ok with a guy who is sure of his sexuality than one who pretended for her sake. not from my experience. From my experience, most girls don't believe that a man can like both. And they think it's just a matter of time before you come "out" and they're left without a lover. I'm realizing from some of the posts here that some gay men aren't keen on bi's either. | |
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Imago said: superspaceboy said: I think that's not exactly true. I think most girls would be ok with a guy who is sure of his sexuality than one who pretended for her sake. not from my experience. From my experience, most girls don't believe that a man can like both. And they think it's just a matter of time before you come "out" and they're left without a lover. I'm realizing from some of the posts here that some gay men aren't keen on bi's either. Honestly I think most people are bi to some degree. WHether or not they act upon it is another thing. Christian Zombie Vampires | |
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superspaceboy said: Honestly I think most people are bi to some degree. WHether or not they act upon it is another thing.
That's closer to what I tend to believe. Most people are capable of most anything, depending on the situation. | |
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evenstar said: pardonme4livin said: In my opinion....MY OPINION!!!!!....there is no such thing as a bi-sexual man...
Either you suck dick....or you do not suck dick.... MY OPINION!!!! So Dan... I guess that should answer and lingering questions about your sexuality.... i just don't understand this...how can you think women can be bi, but not men? It's easy.... I can totally understand how and why a "straight" woman can look at another woman and feel desire... a need or a curiosity. I mean come on.... women are soft, they smell great and have all kinds of great bumps and curves... Besides for that.... it's the law...what do you want me to say... | |
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KidaDynamite said: evenstar said: i just don't understand this...how can you think women can be bi, but not men? That's what I want to know! It helps me to sleep at night..... | |
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meow85 said: Ottensen said: I think you're right....both right, actually. EXCEEEEPT in the cases of chicks like me: the refusal to become involved with a bi-guy is more about my ego and not wanting to deal with double the competition for another's affections. It's completely juvenile on my part, but while I believe it's entirely possible for a person to authentically connect with both sexes, I don't want the added (yet embraced and expected) issue of them being able to go after Judy AND John if I'm trying to make it with them. Additionally, for me I don't think that bi-sexual men are automatically qualified as 'just gay', rather than seeing them as 'this is a human being who needs certain physical attributes (and others) that I will NEVER be able to supply him with 100%', so why set myself up for the ineveitable failure that will eventually arrive when he needs to go out there and discover his destiny within psycho-psysiological connection of another man, his other mirror...? I think some people can work with that, but I'm not one of them. I need the focus to be all about ME, which is enough in itself with all the cute girlies out there: don't need to have the cute guys lining up around the corner too for the object of my affection. I suppose I look at the issue in a very unevolved, animal kingdom-cougarish- self-presevation kind of way Oh for the love of God. Contrary to what you apparently believe, bi folk ARE capable of monogamy, just like anybody else. The idea that a bi person is inevitably going to cheat because they can't be "100% satisfied" is just as stupid as saying straight men will inevitably cheat because they still think Halle Berry's hot even after they're married. Look, kiddo---I already said my viewpoint was selfish and based on my own unevolved needs... I was honest. Now get the fuck off my case (please). | |
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Imago said: It's a turnoff for alot of girls ,cause many believe you're just 'gay' but not fully coming to terms with it. They don't really think you love their sweet sweet vaginas as much or more than the pen0r.
See I don't get that... it's a turnoff for me when a guy is NOT bi. Now I just gotta find a guy who'll share me with a guy... and who'll be shared at the same time. | |
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Teacher said: Imago said: It's a turnoff for alot of girls ,cause many believe you're just 'gay' but not fully coming to terms with it. They don't really think you love their sweet sweet vaginas as much or more than the pen0r.
See I don't get that... it's a turnoff for me when a guy is NOT bi. Now I just gotta find a guy who'll share me with a guy... and who'll be shared at the same time. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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KidaDynamite said: Teacher said: See I don't get that... it's a turnoff for me when a guy is NOT bi. Now I just gotta find a guy who'll share me with a guy... and who'll be shared at the same time. You think I'm joking? | |
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Teacher said: KidaDynamite said: You think I'm joking? No for some reason I felt that you are truly serious.....that's why! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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KidaDynamite said: Teacher said: You think I'm joking? No for some reason I felt that you are truly serious.....that's why! Sex is way too serious to joke about | |
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Teacher said: KidaDynamite said: No for some reason I felt that you are truly serious.....that's why! Sex is way too serious to joke about And who said I wouldn't? | |
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TheMadMonkey said: Teacher said: Sex is way too serious to joke about And who said I wouldn't? Well until you're here I can still pout can't I? | |
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Teacher said: TheMadMonkey said: And who said I wouldn't? Well until you're here I can still pout can't I? Fair enough | |
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Teacher said: KidaDynamite said: No for some reason I felt that you are truly serious.....that's why! Sex is way too serious to joke about So i've heard. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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pardonme4livin said: evenstar said: i just don't understand this...how can you think women can be bi, but not men? It's easy.... I can totally understand how and why a "straight" woman can look at another woman and feel desire... a need or a curiosity. I mean come on.... women are soft, they smell great and have all kinds of great bumps and curves... Besides for that.... it's the law...what do you want me to say... is that you can't comprehend that the same things that attract a woman to a man could also attract another man? | |
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evenstar said: pardonme4livin said: It's easy.... I can totally understand how and why a "straight" woman can look at another woman and feel desire... a need or a curiosity. I mean come on.... women are soft, they smell great and have all kinds of great bumps and curves... Besides for that.... it's the law...what do you want me to say... is that you can't comprehend that the same things that attract a woman to a man could also attract another man? Ya just can't let it go....can ya.... | |
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pardonme4livin said: evenstar said: is that you can't comprehend that the same things that attract a woman to a man could also attract another man? Ya just can't let it go....can ya.... it's just bizarre to me that someone on a PRINCE website could think that. and it's the law? what? would it totally weird you out to know that there's women who find the idea of two guys together just as hot as men seeing women together? | |
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evenstar said: pardonme4livin said: Ya just can't let it go....can ya.... it's just bizarre to me that someone on a PRINCE website could think that. and it's the law? what? would it totally weird you out to know that there's women who find the idea of two guys together just as hot as men seeing women together? | |
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Imago said: shanti0608 said: I have never known a bi man..well that I am aware of. I swear to GAWD, all but one of my best male friends in their 20's had crushes on me that they couldn't quite come to terms with. All of them identified as being 100% hetero, but all of them would have experimented sexually with me if they wanted. Well, actually 2 of them did. I think there are tons of bi-sexual males out there that just aren't accounted for. | |
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So so far from what I'ver read: most women won't date a bisexual man because he may turnout to be gay and some gay men won't date a bisexual man because he may turn out to be gay? and there is no such thing as a bisexual man altogether?
ya'll some confused mofos I don't believe in labels. people choose who they choose. If people stop having so many hangups about being afraid of looking into themselves at the risk of possibly finding that their idea of attraction may some how cross that 'alternative boundary' then the better off we will be. | |
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heybaby said: So so far from what I'ver read: most women won't date a bisexual man because he may turnout to be gay and some gay men won't date a bisexual man because he may turn out to be gay? and there is no such thing as a bisexual man altogether?
ya'll some confused mofos I don't believe in labels. people choose who they choose. If people stop having so many hangups about being afraid of looking into themselves at the risk of possibly finding that their idea of attraction may some how cross that 'alternative boundary' then the better off we will be. I married a woman. I have been and am still occasionally attracted to men. I'm also occasionally attracted to women. I say occasionally as it's pertinent, since when I was younger being attracted to people, dating, flirting etc. just wasn't a big part of my world and so it's not something I ever really thought about much, or my sexuality. When I met my now wife I had feelings I'd really never had before and the rest is history. I was really drawn to her and notably really wanted to have sex with her ( ), which is something I've never felt about a man, despite being drawn to some men before also. So, would that make me kinda bi? Would I say maybe I'm 70% hetero? 60%? 80%? I don't feel it's necessary to put a label on myself or some percentage as all I know is I met someone I love, who I married, and who I'm committed to. I'm very happy and what need would I have for a label? . [Edited 2/27/08 17:38pm] | |
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