SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I told the truth about how I buckled dammit!

evenstar said:

It's not your fault. It's the fault of men who so desperately want you to be able to just go with the flow immediately if you feel like it but then talk shit about you because you did. They are getting what they deserve really

fhqwhgads said:

It IS a tip! I have straight out given men advice on how they can 1) Save money and 2) Find out if their woman is really marrying them for love if they happen to find out. The refusal of women to accept this has led to what you view as mockery But there is a tip in there

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

but it's still deceit, which you should never start a marriage with

Anxiety said:

You are so right! I came here to take a breather from all the threads the breeders have started about gay relationships.

evenstar said:

It's only deceitful if she finds out. What she doesn't know won't kill her. She wanted a ring, she got a ring. That sounds pretty truthful to me

And just like Anxypoo pointed out, I doubt any of you broads would be the least bit angry if he lied about giving you a CZ but it really was a diamond

This isn't about the lie, it's about entitlement.

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Lawd, where's JustErin when you need her?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

You guys need to start an expensive and exclusive tradition of your own

ZombieKitten said:

I guess so! I see Diamond encrusted anuses in my future

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Ok, so let me look at my own situation based on your advice Mr. smartass. Say I decided to try out this wonderful weederouter of a tip. It's really not a stretch to think that Mon could've said she wouldn't marry me if I didn't meet what she'd see as the obligations of me marrying her, a Thai woman. She did actually put pressure on me about certain customs as it is. I dunno dude, but I'm thinking that it's probably best to come with the cash and gold. It wouldn't have been through not loving me that she would've said no go to the marriage in the case of me not fulfilling the obligations. Point is, that advice may not be so great for individual people in their own particular circumstances, so what is it good for? A nameless bunch of people lumped together by sexual orientation as a whole, or basically typed words on a page? I demand to see your credentials mister!

fhqwhgads said:

oh my god, it's exhausting. it's like all you straighties know how to do is sit around competing as to who can create the broadest generalizations about the gays. don't you people have jack johnson concerts to attend or whatever it is you people do for fun?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

stop. it. deceit is deceit, whether or not someone finds out. if i cheat on ben & he never finds out, does that make it right? no.

and again with me personally, i have no sense of entitlement. there's many women who don't.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ZombieKitten said:

I actually know of a few homosexual couples who exchange beautiful and expensive rings to symbolize their union. I think it's nice.

Anxiety said:

Personally I prefer not to venture out of the house to concerts or anything lest I come across any gay people and begin interacting with them. I might learn something I shouldn't and that would only jeopardise my generalisation threads.

evenstar said:

Oh please! A woman's world will never crumble because her fiance didn't go to debtors prison to give her a freakin rock! This is really no harm no foul. If the woman is truly in it for love IT. CAN'T. MATTER!

I am so so so so RIGHT!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

you need your own talk radio show.

fhqwhgads said:

Or worse, your relationship!

evenstar said:

Maybe chicks like us are just lying to ourselves. I mean, hey. Richie knows us better than we do!

fhqwhgads said:

look, anything you need to know about the gays has been painstakingly detailed in multiple seasons of will & grace, which has been lovingly packaged in many collector's edition DVD sets. i only know this because as a gay, i am obligated to purchase anything that says "collector's edition" on it.

Anxiety said:

It would be a great outlet for me wouldn't it?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

if you give me the ring and tell me it's cubic zirconium and you saved us $9,000 I would be happy. If you told me it was a diamond and it looked like $10,000 I would be doubtful and suspicious unless you were loaded, and if you were struggling to make ends meet I would be angry.

INSATIABLE said:

So there's 2 of you. I accept that

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

somehow i just don't think a blog would be enough.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

no! if someone did that to me, the implication would be that he thought i only wanted him for the diamond or whatever, and worse, that he couldn't be open enough to discuss it with me. it's insulting and i wouldn't want to marry someone who thought that of me. i'd rather have no ring than someone try to test me.

ZombieKitten said:

Ok, so there's 3 of you

evenstar said:

It's no test. Buy it, give it, say nothing. If it comes to light afterward, that's her own fault and hers to deal with.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

3 of us what

Anxiety said:

Ohmygod! I only watch 2 things on TV and that's one of them! I check out BBC News 24 for the straight world and then Will and Grace for the gay world.

JasmineFire said:

I know a few as well that I used to work with but still keep in touch with from time to time.