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PrintableThreadBare said: it's also about making sure she doesn't feel dishonored around other women... because other women can trip on what you've placed on her finger. And, older women (mamas, aunts, sorors, etc.) generally can spot a good ring at first glance (without a jeweler's loupe
 ) and clue in the woman in question. And they will.HENS! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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ThreadBare said: A few observations...
1) Supes, how many women do you plan on proposing to?
2) The rings have very little value in pawn stores. The racket is that they retain their value in jewelry stores, and really only in the interests of having the dude trade up and pay at least twice the value of the original ring. If you keep up with twice-yearly cleanings... 3) The rings are for the woman... beyond a man's declaring he's willing to plunk down some serious cash for what the ring represents, which is usually a real interesting place to realize you've arrived, as a man... it's also about making sure she doesn't feel dishonored around other women... because other women can trip on what you've placed on her finger. And, older women (mamas, aunts, sorors, etc.) generally can spot a good ring at first glance (without a jeweler's loupe ) and clue in the woman in question. And they will.See, I hate to admit it, but that's why I wouldn't want to know if it was fake. There's a veil of shame attached to a bad/small/fake ring. & people will comment on it, & I just don't need the extra bitchery on my plate. It's sad b/c it's giving in to what other people think, but I admit that I wouldn't wanna go through it. & I wouldn't want people making judgements about me or my future husband based on it... though they make good judgements if the ring is good, so I judgement is a judgement, but I guess I'd rather it be good than bad if I can't avoid it 
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CalhounSq said: ThreadBare said: A few observations...
1) Supes, how many women do you plan on proposing to?
2) The rings have very little value in pawn stores. The racket is that they retain their value in jewelry stores, and really only in the interests of having the dude trade up and pay at least twice the value of the original ring. If you keep up with twice-yearly cleanings... 3) The rings are for the woman... beyond a man's declaring he's willing to plunk down some serious cash for what the ring represents, which is usually a real interesting place to realize you've arrived, as a man... it's also about making sure she doesn't feel dishonored around other women... because other women can trip on what you've placed on her finger. And, older women (mamas, aunts, sorors, etc.) generally can spot a good ring at first glance (without a jeweler's loupe ) and clue in the woman in question. And they will.See, I hate to admit it, but that's why I wouldn't want to know if it was fake. There's a veil of shame attached to a bad/small/fake ring. & people will comment on it, & I just don't need the extra bitchery on my plate. It's sad b/c it's giving in to what other people think, but I admit that I wouldn't wanna go through it. & I wouldn't want people making judgements about me or my future husband based on it... though they make good judgements if the ring is good, so I judgement is a judgement, but I guess I'd rather it be good than bad if I can't avoid it
Sad huh OMG I love your ring! 
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heybaby said: ThreadBare said: A few observations...
1) Supes, how many women do you plan on proposing to?
2) The rings have very little value in pawn stores. The racket is that they retain their value in jewelry stores, and really only in the interests of having the dude trade up and pay at least twice the value of the original ring. If you keep up with twice-yearly cleanings... 3) The rings are for the woman... beyond a man's declaring he's willing to plunk down some serious cash for what the ring represents, which is usually a real interesting place to realize you've arrived, as a man... it's also about making sure she doesn't feel dishonored around other women... because other women can trip on what you've placed on her finger. And, older women (mamas, aunts, sorors, etc.) generally can spot a good ring at first glance (without a jeweler's loupe ) and clue in the woman in question. And they will.Understood but this is where some women mess up. They worry too much about what the crew thinks. Understood but too bad. I hear ya. I dated a sista who informed me that her ring would need to come from Tiffany's... She was dead serious. Proof that "Sex and the City" and real life should never, ever mix.... bought some guitars instead...  | |
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CalhounSq said: ThreadBare said: A few observations...
1) Supes, how many women do you plan on proposing to?
2) The rings have very little value in pawn stores. The racket is that they retain their value in jewelry stores, and really only in the interests of having the dude trade up and pay at least twice the value of the original ring. If you keep up with twice-yearly cleanings... 3) The rings are for the woman... beyond a man's declaring he's willing to plunk down some serious cash for what the ring represents, which is usually a real interesting place to realize you've arrived, as a man... it's also about making sure she doesn't feel dishonored around other women... because other women can trip on what you've placed on her finger. And, older women (mamas, aunts, sorors, etc.) generally can spot a good ring at first glance (without a jeweler's loupe ) and clue in the woman in question. And they will.See, I hate to admit it, but that's why I wouldn't want to know if it was fake. There's a veil of shame attached to a bad/small/fake ring. & people will comment on it, & I just don't need the extra bitchery on my plate. It's sad b/c it's giving in to what other people think, but I admit that I wouldn't wanna go through it. & I wouldn't want people making judgements about me or my future husband based on it... though they make good judgements if the ring is good, so I judgement is a judgement, but I guess I'd rather it be good than bad if I can't avoid it
Sad huh not sad. just have to remember that its all about whats between you and the man your with-nobody else. people who make judgements need to really go somewhere and worry about their own business. btw. It would just piss me off and the people doing the judging would best know to keep it to themselves the next time  | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: CalhounSq said: See, I hate to admit it, but that's why I wouldn't want to know if it was fake. There's a veil of shame attached to a bad/small/fake ring. & people will comment on it, & I just don't need the extra bitchery on my plate. It's sad b/c it's giving in to what other people think, but I admit that I wouldn't wanna go through it. & I wouldn't want people making judgements about me or my future husband based on it... though they make good judgements if the ring is good, so I judgement is a judgement, but I guess I'd rather it be good than bad if I can't avoid it
Sad huh OMG I love your ring!
Then WHY you tryin' to mess up my chances of getting a good one w/ these "buy her a cheap ass ring!" threads??!! Huh??!! 
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CalhounSq said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: OMG I love your ring!
Then WHY you tryin' to mess up my chances of getting a good one w/ these "buy her a cheap ass ring!" threads??!! Huh??!!
My balls tell me to!
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ThreadBare said: heybaby said: Understood but this is where some women mess up. They worry too much about what the crew thinks. Understood but too bad. I hear ya. I dated a sista who informed me that her ring would need to come from Tiffany's... She was dead serious. Proof that "Sex and the City" and real life should never, ever mix.... bought some guitars instead... OMG, where do you find these women Threaddy???  I'm glad you bought the guitars, she sounds a mess!  I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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CalhounSq said: ThreadBare said: I hear ya. I dated a sista who informed me that her ring would need to come from Tiffany's... She was dead serious. Proof that "Sex and the City" and real life should never, ever mix.... bought some guitars instead... OMG, where do you find these women Threaddy??? I'm glad you bought the guitars, she sounds a mess! Oh, if I spilled the awful, sordid details to the stories I almost share here, you'd weep. The whole Org lot of you would. | |
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ThreadBare said: CalhounSq said: OMG, where do you find these women Threaddy??? I'm glad you bought the guitars, she sounds a mess! Oh, if I spilled the awful, sordid details to the stories I almost share here, you'd weep. The whole Org lot of you would. you meet them in the house of the Lord | |
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ZombieKitten said: ThreadBare said: Oh, if I spilled the awful, sordid details to the stories I almost share here, you'd weep. The whole Org lot of you would. you meet them in the house of the Lord Gosh. School, church, through friends... Oh, let's talk about the NFL draft instead... | |
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ThreadBare said: ZombieKitten said: you meet them in the house of the Lord Gosh. School, church, through friends... Oh, let's talk about the NFL draft instead... Hippies in the supermarket | |
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ZombieKitten said: ThreadBare said: Gosh. School, church, through friends... Oh, let's talk about the NFL draft instead... Hippies in the supermarket  I should've said hello to her.
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ThreadBare said: ZombieKitten said: Hippies in the supermarket I should've said hello to her.
Can't believe you remembered that one. I remember most things  | |
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ZombieKitten said: ThreadBare said: I should've said hello to her.
Can't believe you remembered that one. I remember most things I hear ya. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Since marriage is supposed to be about "love", get your girlfriend a cubic zirconia ring instead of a diamond and save your self some cash! If she finds out that it is fake, that means she went out and got it appraised which means your marriage is about a rock and not love. If she finds out and makes a stink about it, you obviously are marrying the wrong chick who is in it for anything but love. If love were the issue, then it wouldn't matter what you gave her to signify your commitment. Your commitment is action, not an object
Good luck guys!  Fuck that! If the man loves me then I should be worthy of a real rock!!!!! Although I prefer a ruby instead of a diamond... I don't like cheap jewelery if I'm going to wear it everyday. [Edited 2/25/08 19:51pm] | |
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CarrieLee said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Since marriage is supposed to be about "love", get your girlfriend a cubic zirconia ring instead of a diamond and save your self some cash! If she finds out that it is fake, that means she went out and got it appraised which means your marriage is about a rock and not love. If she finds out and makes a stink about it, you obviously are marrying the wrong chick who is in it for anything but love. If love were the issue, then it wouldn't matter what you gave her to signify your commitment. Your commitment is action, not an object
Good luck guys! Fuck that! If the man loves me then I should be worthy of a real rock!!!!! Although I prefer a ruby instead of a diamond... I don't like cheap jewelery if I'm going to wear it everyday.
After all, it's going to have to match those sunglasses...  | |
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CarrieLee said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Since marriage is supposed to be about "love", get your girlfriend a cubic zirconia ring instead of a diamond and save your self some cash! If she finds out that it is fake, that means she went out and got it appraised which means your marriage is about a rock and not love. If she finds out and makes a stink about it, you obviously are marrying the wrong chick who is in it for anything but love. If love were the issue, then it wouldn't matter what you gave her to signify your commitment. Your commitment is action, not an object
Good luck guys! Fuck that! If the man loves me then I should be worthy of a real rock!!!!! Although I prefer a ruby instead of a diamond... I don't like cheap jewelery if I'm going to wear it everyday.
[Edited 2/25/08 19:51pm] good point | |
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Anxiety said: i think it's kind of a silly, impratical gesture. "i want to build a home and a life together and we're going to be partners in creating a family and giving our children the best upbringing we can manage. oh, and here's a $10,000 diamond ring that we'll be paying for over the next seven years."
something symbolic and precious is fine, but it doesn't have to be about the bling. an heirloom or something with personal meaning would be just as valuable. that would mean so, so much more to me than some flashy $10,000 thing. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Since marriage is supposed to be about "love", get your girlfriend a cubic zirconia ring instead of a diamond and save your self some cash! If she finds out that it is fake, that means she went out and got it appraised which means your marriage is about a rock and not love. If she finds out and makes a stink about it, you obviously are marrying the wrong chick who is in it for anything but love. If love were the issue, then it wouldn't matter what you gave her to signify your commitment. Your commitment is action, not an object
Good luck guys! That's in the category of fraud. How commited is that? 
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CalhounSq said: Shiiiiit, gimme the ring but DO NOT tell me it's a fucking cubic zirconia
The one time I was proposed to I never got the ring appraised, & I didn't even wanna marry this guy But I would have felt strange testing it like that. All that matters is the ring was given...
I just don't see myself ever getting a ring appraised or asking how much was spent on it, b/c then I'll get all caught up in my feelings about the ring itself. & it ain't about the ring, it's about if I wanna marry his punk ass or not. But don't fucking tell me  Wedding vows? |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Since marriage is supposed to be about "love", get your girlfriend a cubic zirconia ring instead of a diamond and save your self some cash! If she finds out that it is fake, that means she went out and got it appraised which means your marriage is about a rock and not love. If she finds out and makes a stink about it, you obviously are marrying the wrong chick who is in it for anything but love. If love were the issue, then it wouldn't matter what you gave her to signify your commitment. Your commitment is action, not an object
Good luck guys! Yeah! Women should buy us something dammit! |
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Probably a good thing you don't have to worry about this kinda stuff huh? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: CarrieMpls said: Or how about they tell her it's a cubic zirconia when they give it? Why not be honest up front? I'd be pissed if someone lied to me about something, even something as "small" as that. I'd happily take any ring my intended wanted to give me. I think most women would too. What would the marriage rate be then?! .04%!!! I really do have an issue with female entitlement when it comes to the ring. I think it should be earned Earned how? I dont agree that women should tell the guy what ring she wants and how much he should spend etc..that's nonsense and he should only buy the ring he can afford, not get into debt for the sake of it. Personally I dont know anyone who chooses their marriage partner based on the size/quality of a ring. A ring is hardly going to help you if he's a asshole is it.. | |
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evenstar said: i would like a ring, but i'd just as happily get married without one.
that's just me though.Wait till I get you a ring made out of unicorn tears. Then you'll be all about rings. | |
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evenstar said: i would like a ring, but i'd just as happily get married without one.
that's just me though.I noticed here in Germany they generally don't excange engagement rings. When people marry they only wear a modest wedding band and that's it. | |
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I have always been more about quality than quantity myself. I never really got too excited about diamonds. I am all about the platinum though. I want my jewelry to last and look good. So no fake diamonds for me thank you.
Not even if it is wrapped in platinum. There are so many other beautiful genuine gemstones out there. I am all for thought and imagination when it comes to jewelry. Though in saying that an authentic version of my birth stone would cost more than most diamonds. Now that wrapped in platinum would be alright as well. | |
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benyamin said: evenstar said: i would like a ring, but i'd just as happily get married without one.
that's just me though.Wait till I get you a ring made out of unicorn tears. Then you'll be all about rings. | |
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benyamin said: evenstar said: i would like a ring, but i'd just as happily get married without one.
that's just me though.Wait till I get you a ring made out of unicorn tears. Then you'll be all about rings. "everything is different in the world of me" | |
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I agree with everything that's been said and everything that will be said about this subject ... cuz that is how I roll  | |
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