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Thread started 02/25/08 11:04am

uPtoWnNY

Troubled Long Island Mom Suspected in Deaths of her Children

http://www.nydailynews.co..._of_h.html

There were warning signs this woman was unstable, but for whatever reason, she fell through the cracks in the system. Sad.
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Reply #1 posted 02/25/08 11:36am

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sad sad sad sad wilted
doveShe couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay dove
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Reply #2 posted 02/25/08 11:38am

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uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/02/24/2008-02-24_long_island_mom_suspected_in_deaths_of_h.html

There were warning signs this woman was unstable, but for whatever reason, she fell through the cracks in the system. Sad.

That's beyond sad. The fathers of the children were trying to get custody of their kids but the courts ruled against them. disbelief
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Reply #3 posted 02/25/08 12:00pm

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purplecam said:

uPtoWnNY said:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/02/24/2008-02-24_long_island_mom_suspected_in_deaths_of_h.html

There were warning signs this woman was unstable, but for whatever reason, she fell through the cracks in the system. Sad.

That's beyond sad. The fathers of the children were trying to get custody of their kids but the courts ruled against them. disbelief


This shows that the automatic assumption that women are better caretakers needs to be examined on a case by case basis and the law shoudn't just blanketly favor women.
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Reply #4 posted 02/25/08 12:07pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


That's beyond sad. The fathers of the children were trying to get custody of their kids but the courts ruled against them. disbelief


This shows that the automatic assumption that women are better caretakers needs to be examined on a case by case basis and the law shoudn't just blanketly favor women.

Amen to that. nod
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Reply #5 posted 02/25/08 12:08pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

purplecam said:


That's beyond sad. The fathers of the children were trying to get custody of their kids but the courts ruled against them. disbelief


This shows that the automatic assumption that women are better caretakers needs to be examined on a case by case basis and the law shoudn't just blanketly favor women.


second that ...


(btw : I didn't read the story, there's enough drama as it is ...)
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Reply #6 posted 02/25/08 12:14pm

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It is just horrific really. sigh

On one hand I do feel it's right to keep children connected to their families, on the other I believe instead of forcing people to be parents, who cannot handle parenthood, they should be allowed without question to just hand over their kids to the state. The state's main objective is to not pay for the care of children whenever possible. But this objective often leads to these types of situations because the interest of the state always outweighs the interest of the children.
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Reply #7 posted 02/25/08 12:33pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It is just horrific really. sigh

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nod It's damn shame that so called parents are killing their children at the drop of a drop of freakin hat. What the hell is going on here?
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Reply #8 posted 02/25/08 12:46pm

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MsLegs said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

It is just horrific really. sigh

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nod It's damn shame that so called parents are killing their children at the drop of a drop of freakin hat. What the hell is going on here?

If she had called to request that the children be immediately taken off her hands, would the state have complied or would they have forced her to try and work it through? Many on the right are obsessed about "responsibility" and forcing children into the hands of those who are not capable of raising them is simply the wrong idea.
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Reply #9 posted 02/25/08 1:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MsLegs said:


nod It's damn shame that so called parents are killing their children at the drop of a drop of freakin hat. What the hell is going on here?

If she had called to request that the children be immediately taken off her hands, would the state have complied or would they have forced her to try and work it through? Many on the right are obsessed about "responsibility" and forcing children into the hands of those who are not capable of raising them is simply the wrong idea.

nod Absolutley. Something needs to be done ASAP.
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Reply #10 posted 02/25/08 1:31pm

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It's one of the big stories here in NYC. Apparently, people in the neighborhood knew she wasn't in her right mind. She was seen talking to herself and just acting strange.
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Reply #11 posted 02/25/08 1:35pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

MsLegs said:


nod It's damn shame that so called parents are killing their children at the drop of a drop of freakin hat. What the hell is going on here?

If she had called to request that the children be immediately taken off her hands, would the state have complied or would they have forced her to try and work it through? Many on the right are obsessed about "responsibility" and forcing children into the hands of those who are not capable of raising them is simply the wrong idea.

"You got yourself knocked up. Now take some responsibility and look after the kid! Without our help, of course. That'd be a handout."
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Reply #12 posted 02/25/08 3:25pm

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It's one of the big stories here in NYC. Apparently, people in the neighborhood knew she wasn't in her right mind. She was seen talking to herself and just acting strange.


...yet the social service workers who visited her couldn't tell something was up?
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Reply #13 posted 02/25/08 3:33pm

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"She was flustered," he said. "She did not receive the money from social services she was expecting and she snapped."

What in theeee fuck? Ummmm, yeah. I'm pretty much a single mother, and I have been BROKE AS A JOKE at certain times in the past, ummmm, yeah. This is about money? And even so, I'm not the most stable person either. But you don't see me stabbing my kid. Eh.
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Reply #14 posted 02/25/08 8:23pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


If she had called to request that the children be immediately taken off her hands, would the state have complied or would they have forced her to try and work it through? Many on the right are obsessed about "responsibility" and forcing children into the hands of those who are not capable of raising them is simply the wrong idea.

"You got yourself knocked up. Now take some responsibility and look after the kid! Without our help, of course. That'd be a handout."


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Reply #15 posted 02/25/08 10:52pm

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gemini13 said:

"She was flustered," he said. "She did not receive the money from social services she was expecting and she snapped."

What in theeee fuck? Ummmm, yeah. I'm pretty much a single mother, and I have been BROKE AS A JOKE at certain times in the past, ummmm, yeah. This is about money? And even so, I'm not the most stable person either. But you don't see me stabbing my kid. Eh.

All bets are off if the person's dealing with a serious mental health issue.
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Reply #16 posted 02/26/08 6:54am

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meow85 said:

gemini13 said:

"She was flustered," he said. "She did not receive the money from social services she was expecting and she snapped."

What in theeee fuck? Ummmm, yeah. I'm pretty much a single mother, and I have been BROKE AS A JOKE at certain times in the past, ummmm, yeah. This is about money? And even so, I'm not the most stable person either. But you don't see me stabbing my kid. Eh.

All bets are off if the person's dealing with a serious mental health issue.



Who says I'm not?
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Reply #17 posted 02/26/08 12:13pm

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gemini13 said:

meow85 said:


All bets are off if the person's dealing with a serious mental health issue.



Who says I'm not?

Sorry, should've clarified. I don't know anything about you, so I'll speak in generalities.

I typed "serious mental health issue" but should've qualified that by referring specifically to conditions like paranoid schizophrenia or extreme depression, rather than run-of-the-mill things like ADHD or milder cases of bipolar disorder. Being bipolar and a psych. student myself, I can't believe I forgot that. doh!

I'm sorry. I'll refrain from posting without thinking from now on. lol
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