JustErin said:

@ all the verbal abuse going on in that post.


another spanking debate thread.

Stymie said:

It ain't my hustle, cause like I said earlier I've never spanked my daughter in my life. I'm speaking more on what happened to me as a kid. And it wasn't injurious, nor rough. And that was my whole point, really. That spankings don't have to amount to physical violence. I do realize that many do.

roodboi said:

Your own doll beat your ass, huh...?

violator said:

Oh okay. I am sorry I misread what you said earlier.

violator said:

not a doll...an action figure dammit...

Stymie said:

I think once you start using broomhandles, hangers, etc. you are no longer spanking the child and officially beating them.

I'm not a parent and I'm not about to weigh in on the morality behind spanking your child but once an object besides a hand gets involved, it seems more like a beating and less like a spanking.

JasmineFire said:

Hey, me too. I refuse to put a child of mine through that pain. We had welts and bruises and I still have a scar on my hand from where my mom threw an ashtray at me.

Stymie said:

Damn, Stymie, you're lucky to be here...

roodboi said:

Oh shit. My bad.

violator said:

Yeah and how she left us alone for days at a time, the apartment fire when she wasn't home, lots of stuff. If anyone thinks I'm a good mom it's because I've done the exact opposite of what she did.

Stymie said:

nobody should have to go thru that kinda stuff...
for what it's worth, you came out of it a beautiful person...

Stymie said:

Wow...

violator said:

I really need to make a point though: Parents have to be awfully careful about hitting kids, even if it is just a spanking. It can stay with a person for life.

horatio said:

Ok. When you click on the link. Click on the "Nightline Webcast" link near the middle of the page then scroll down a little and you'll see the pic of the little fat girl, next to it it will say "WATCH: Nightline Webcast: Dangerous Weight 2.01.08 A mother seeks out help for her 5-year-old obese daughter." They barely show anything though
[Edited 2/25/08 19:43pm]

LiquidGold said:

I. Will check it out tomorow !

Damn people. I did not mean for this to turn into a spanking debate. I wouldn't spank my children at least I don't think so because I would teach them to respect me from the start and I hated being spanked. I think when a child is a toddler you may have to tap them on their hands or legs to stop them from breaking something and/or hurting themselves but THIS GIRL is over the top and it's her mother's fault, but not completely. This girl has an older brother who is healthy and respects their mom, so maybe children aren't supposed to be raised the same or maybe she spoiled the girl more. Obviously she gave the girl all the food she could eat with no boundaries and now she has no boundaries, not even the way she treats her mother. If I called my mom stupid she would have popped me in the mouth and that would have been the end of that no heavy duty beating, just a pop. If I screamed and acted a fool over food in the store my mom would have asked me how I was paying for the food I was screaming and told me to "buckle up." That would have been enough

All I'm saying is this girl wouldn't be doing this shit in my house. She thinks she's an equal adult payin' rent up in that bitch


Her mom: "Don't do that to mommy. Don't say that to mommy. How am I going to pay for it?" What? And she's all sweet about it with no authority in her voice. Her daughter thinks she's a joke. If she doesn't get control soon, she's going to grow up to being a horrible person who my children will have to deal with... or my tax money

Thanks for adding your opinions to the spanking debate.

horatio said:

You're welcome

violator said:

So...if it's a specific act of hitting it's okay, but not if it's just general hitting? Riiiiight.....

People who rationalize spanking crack me up.

alwayslate said:

And why shouldn't I? A person is a person is a person. If it's wrong to hit an adult person, it is wrong to hit a juvenile person. That some people try to justify hitting children -who are usually smaller, weaker, and less cognitively and emotionally developed than adults when they'd balk at hitting other adults -is disturbing IMO.

So answer the question, if you don't mind: Why is it supposed to be okay to hit children, but not adults?

meow85 said:

my step-mom liked to beat me with a bread paddle for just about anything she could think of.
So one day I took it out to the burn barrel with the rest of the trash.
Then she decided I was old enough for her to slap me in the face, until a put my arm out to stop her and knocked her arm out of socket.

good times
[Edited 2/26/08 12:51pm]

Supports spanking. Clearly needs walk out of thread.

I've spoken to my mom about this. She and her siblings were hit growing up, and she says she's had a lot of trouble not succumbing to the temptation to use the same method of punishment on my sister and me. Because God knows we gave her reason to want to sometimes. Her solution -unbeknownst to us at the time -was to give herself a time out before she punished us for whatever fuck up we'd been behind. She went out into the backyard and trashed some inanimate, easily replaceable thing. Usually wood that needed to be chopped anyway. Once she took a writing desk and threw it across the yard. (My mama's tough!) Then when she'd worked out her anger and immediate "hitting" impulse she came back and meted out whatever punishment she thought we deserved.

It wasn't until I was about 15 that I figured out why the backyard always looked messier and more broken stuff-filled than the neighbours.

horatio said:

How in the hell?!?!?!

KidaDynamite said:

I dunno, im assuming it was from the force of how hard she was attempting to slap me that did it. After about 10 yrs of her shenanigans and that incident, then she started trying to make my dad do her dirt.
Soon I was placed in the care of relatives.

horatio said:

wow.

A lot of people are just fucking bonkers man.

horatio said:

meow85 said:

I gave you my reason. You disagree and that's okay. I don't see children as adults' equal. You'll take what I said and translate that into something sinister, I'm sure. I love my son. I spank him because I love him and I want to raise him right. This is how I was raised by my father and I think I turned out well. I am a good woman; at least as far as I am concerned. I never felt like my dad didn't love me because I got a spanking and he always made sure I understood that I deserved what I got. My father is one of my best friends today. I have rights as a parent to raise my son as I see fit. And I am a good parent. Whether you agree is of no importance to me. My goal is to raise my son to become a good man. This is my way of doing it.I do not beat on my kid. I am not abusive but yes I do spank him when I think he deserves it. And I am not sorry about.

meow85 said:

It's cool. Drama queens make me giggle. Different strokes I 'spose...

In this case, yes, a specific act of hitting is okay. An open palm (spank) to the butt I find acceptable. Punching, smacking of the face, using objects to hit, etc. isn't acceptable for me. There are limits to everything.

JustErin said:

Wait till that second one comes. The first children are always "good" comapared to the rest of the kids; they fight for dominance, attention, place, etc. My neice and nephew are day n night when it comes to behavior. The oldest is a good kid that never needed a whole lot of guidance or discipline. But the sceond born? She will take you to that limit and I swear it takes every ounce of me to not let her catch a good whoopin. I have arrived at my sister's house with her in the garage with a bottle and she tells me "If I hear her scream one more time..." with a glazed expression. Juat saying first/only kids aren't as much grief as several.