Mars23 said:

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LiquidGold said:

Any language which encourages conduct that would constitute a criminal offense is grounds for immediate account deletion.

evenstar said:

Spanking is not a criminal offense. It's another way of saying spank her

LiquidGold said:

right. okay.

you sound sorta freaky about it.....







...good gravy, marie

myfavorite said:

Me? that's funny

LiquidGold said:

Nope haven't seen her, but...your thread title 'That fat girl that screams for food' is 2 funny.

The kid needs psyhcological help.

LiquidGold said:

I dont see it

oh I found it, lovely a commercial that says "candy" put some candy back in your life..oreo cookies...then a commerical for cream cheese



actually I dont see the video , where is the video for this at???
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So what's the father's role in all this?

I feel bad for everyone is this situation but an obese 5 year old who yells and hits her mother disgusts me. Maybe it's wrong but that is my gut reaction.

I hope that this family's situation can get better.

evenstar said:

I spank my kid. Cancel my account. I spank his ass whenever he deserves it, in front of the damned police if I have to.

Fuck that,that little girl needs some tough love and I mean the ass whupping kind.
She's only 4, it's not too late to fix her behavior. And her mother can do that without making the girl feel un-loved if she would just grow a fucking backbone.

horatio said:

I had to look for it. I'll try to find the path. The part they show is tame though compared to the full story they showed on tv

alwayslate said:

alwayslate said:

I agree, except "tough love" doesn't have to mean physical violence.

Or at least, it doesn't in my home.

Genesia said:

JustErin said:

You call spanking "physical violence"...?

I mean, it can be. But it certainly doesn't have to, nor ever should be.

Serious said:

You're probably one of those people who let their little darlings ride roughshod over everything and everybody, think they should be handled with kid gloves, and are the equals of adults.

God, I'm sick of that shit.

violator said:

Yes, I do.

You don't go spanking your co-workers, parents, family or friends when you're upset at what they've done. I do not believe that something you would not dare do to another adult is acceptable to do to a child.

JustErin said:

I agree 100%.

Genesia said:

God I am sick of people who don't respect others be it kids or adults . They only things kids will learn from your way of upbringing them is that the one who is physical stronger is the one who is right .

JustErin said:

violence - rough or injurious force, action, or treatment;

I'm not responsible for raising my co-workers, parents or friends,so I don't really see the correlation. I've never had to spank my daughter and I hope I never do. But I was spanked as a child and there was nothing 'violent' about it. I just think its a little reckless to suggest that about spanking in general.

violator said:

Spanking is a rough action or treatment so it fits in nicely in that definition. Spanking causes pain...and that's the bottom line.

People don't have to raise others, but people are in positions to discipline other adults all the time. Like a boss with an employee. No one gets spanked at work (unless they want to).

I think it's reckless to suggest that hitting another person, causing them phsysical pain as punishment is not violent simply because it fits under the label of "discipline" or "spanking" or whatever else people who want to justify hitting their kids wanna call it.

But hey, parents I'm not here to change anyone's mind on how to raise their kids. I'm just talking about how I raise mine.

Maybe, instead of judging these people, we ought to be thinking about how we can help them.

JustErin said:

No, Erin, spanking does not always cause pain and should never injure a child. And that is an important distinction to make. I've had spankings from my parents that didn't physically hurt me at all... but hurt my feelings more than anything else because I knew I'd really done something wrong.

Despite your attempts to characterize spanking in general as violent, it doesn't have to be.

Serious said:

Respect is something you earn.

Oh - and "upbringing" is not a verb.

violator said:

Striking another person doesn't hurt? That's certainly not my experience. It stings like a mofo.

If it's not done to hurt (which I personally don't see is even possible) what's it done for? To shock the person? Take them by surprise? To release anger you might be feeling? What's its purpose? What does it do that non-physical methods just can't do?

Certianly you can't honestly being saying that it's used as a way to hurt a childs "feelings".

Genesia said:

So you don't respect somebody you meet for the first time or how would you know that person has earned your respect .

English is not my first language, I just learned it at school . I know the grammar of my mother tongue quite fine, and with your help I might one day master the English language as well .

violator said:

I don't want to jack this thread, but what else is hitting if it's not violence?

Give me a break. This mother bargains, coddles, and isn't firm at all. I would just ignore her when she screams. WTF? I HATE parents like this.

JustErin said:

If it's wrong to hit an adult, it's wrong to hit a child.


Tell me this, you folk who hit their kids: Why is it that if a man hits his wife because he's displeased with her behaviour he is a heartless son of a bitch who should be strung up by his balls, but if man hits his child because he's displeased with her behaviour he's a loving, caring father?