The history of the "Skull and Bones" ribbon is indeed a scary one. The Background: The first true secret ribbon was the one of the Temple Knights, who were running the first true world bank in Paris back in the 12th century. Later the Free Masoners emerged out of that group (with members such as Goethe, Mozart, Newton), followed by the radical wing of the Illuminators (1777).
The Skull and Bones were founded in 1832 by fraternity members of Yale University. A typical ribbon consisted of eastcoast-WASPs (white anglo-saxon protestants), anti-semit, racist, blue-blooded, greedy. The Bonesmen are believed to be behind helping to build Nazi-Germany, communist Russia and, not surprisingly, the current US government, since many members of the Bush-Clan were Bonesmen, including the latest offspring, W. Sounds crazy? Another conspiracy? I dont know. But I will try to give you some background now. You will then have to make up your mind.
In the chronics of the ribbon one can read about W's grandfather Prescott Bush, who was initiated in 1917. His biggest effort in the early years was that he stole one of the most important trophies of the ribbon and brought it back to their temple: the skull of appache-chief Geronimo.
However,in spite of this Harry-Potter-like chapter of the ribbons history, Prescott Bush as the president of the Union Banking Corp. and Hamburg-Amerika-Linie (cruiseships) later became on of the most important supporters and financers of the Nazi-Regime. Nothing new really, but there's more to that.
I am sure Prescott and his Partner William A. Harriman (initiated 1913) must have appreciated that the Nazi-special forces "SS" used the seal of the Skull and Bones as their own logo. Coincidence again? Or a sign or respect? Wait, a lot more to come.
Unlike the many US industrials, who have financed Nazi-Germany, Bush and Harriman didnt hide that fact. The US embassador in Berlin, William E. Dodd, told a reporter of the NY Times in 1937: "A clique of US-industrials is currently obsessed with the idea to substitute our own democratic government through a facist regime. This very group is cooperating with the facist-regimes of Germany and Italy."
In fact the Bonesmen helped Hitler on his way to the ultimate power. Way before the Nazis took government in 1933 US diplomats had noticed that Hitlers special force SA (300 000 members) has been equiped with american weapons. German steel mogul Fritz Thyssen later admit to have invested in Hitlers revolution - his financial direktors were Bush and Harriman.
The scariest character of the Bonesmen was Henry Stimson (initiated in 1888) who until his death in 1950 was minister under seven (!) US-presidents. As Roosevelts war minister Stimson was the architect of World War II and later the Cold War - a Bonesman.
Stimson was also responsible for the Pearl Harbour fake which was initiated to convince the US citizens to enter WW II. On the day of the attack on Pearl Harbour, Dec 7th 1941, Stimson noted in his diary (mind the english, I only hold the german translation and I have to re-translate it): "When the first news of the japanese attack arrived, I felt greatly relieved, that the crisis came to unite the american people. I believe that our country has nothing to fear if it stands united..."
According to his various biographers Stimson had the opinion that every generation should live through at least one big war because it gives strenght to the union and cleans the economy.
Right before George Bush sen. decided to attack Saddam Hussein in 1991, according to the Washington Post he spent the holidays reading his favorite book: "The Colonel. Life and Wars of Henry Stimson."
So whats behind the Skull and Bones brotherhood? They do not only believe in the superiority of the white race but they believe in their god given right to constitute the fate of the entire human race. Their method: Constructive Chaos. Best example is Grandpa Bush's partner William A. Harriman, who as the head of Union Banking helped to finance the Nazi-Regime, while his Garanty Trust Company helped and supported the rise of the Sovietunion. Harriman also advised six US presidents in war matters.
George Bush sen in 1991 adapted that idea of "constructive chaos": After being defeated Iraq remainded intact and a potential threat, the Kingdoms of the Gul area, the OPEC-Countries and the US-allies without own oil resources as Japan or Germany since then are fully dependend on the US oil reserves. Bush sen got what he wanted.
After all, lets make this very clear: since the Dollar is not covered by gold reserves anymore but by oil (1971) and the oil-price was tight to the dollar, America has been leading hot and cold Oil-Wars around the globe. The US do not need more oil, they need to CONTROL all oil reserves on the planet, in order to keep the dollar stable. Its a very simple economic equation.
Now this whole report I did not type up to identify the conspiracy behind 9/11 as Skull and Bones action. But one should maybe consider that this particular ribbon was possibly behind WW II, the first two Gulf Wars and now could be behind the so called "War against Terrorism".
Now you might call me rivisionist, then go back to believe that the "War on Terrorism" is a simple response to the threat of the Taliban who want to conquer the world and make our women wear Burkas.
I just found the info on Skull and Bones important enough to be shared here. There's little info on them, and I'd like to know your opinions, pros and cons.
[This message was edited Thu Oct 24 9:23:09 PDT 2002 by soulpower]

others may just think I am a freak and disregard this as nonsense...

soulpower said:

Bingo!

2the9s said:

I knew I was calling you!
Anyway, I'd still like to know your opinion on the ribbon! since W admit that he is a member, since the clan is known to exist, you cant really call this conspiracy, can you? what are your thoughts?

soulpower said:

I really don't know. Was one of the initiation rites of the Knights Templar to do beer funnels, snort cocaine, and flunk Freshman algebra?

If so, then maybe you're on to something!

you are disappointing me, bro! always smart remarks when you have a newslink on hand. but if not, then...
well, at least you admit that this time you really dont know.

soulpower said:

What am I supposed to say, sp? It's the kookiest thing you've posted yet.

Keep 'em coming!

It's one of these things that is a conspiracy to people who want to believe what the majority public tells them. I know it is true, I have read the articles and studied this. There is a link about it on that post I put up the other day that we chatted on.

Some people want to pass this off and say that it is "just a silly fraternity" and there is nothing to it, but I beg to differ. Rituals and all that creepy kind of behavior is nothing to screw with.

Yeah, dont mess with a fraternity that is shifting billions of dollars!

(nep2nes speaking..)

Americans have known Bush was in Skull and Bones for a long time (and if they don't shame on them)

U may get off ur soapbox now.

ItalianToy said:

I agree to the point that at least all my american friends were aware of that. However, if so many Americans have known it all along as you say, HOW COME THEY HAVE VOTED FOR HIM? you know I'm not anti-american, but if that is the case then I would seriously have to doubt the rationality of the minds of a nation who voluntarily decide to shift a member of a secret ribbon with obvious criminal intentions into the office of their president.