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Reply #120 posted 10/25/02 2:18pm

Ifsixwuz9

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CalhounSq said:

mrchristian said:

I understand that the family of that mother would be very emotional as they should be, but violence in the face of violence doesn't right a wrong, and it won't bring her back.


So, because a member of MY family wasn't murdered, I shouldn't be outraged?

Any one of those murdered could have been a member of my family. They have so little regard for human life, why the hell should I care about the preservation of theirs?


Exactly. Reading some of the posts in this thread and others involving the snipers just gives me the feeling that because a lot of you were not in this area don't get what it felt like to be a possible target for these assholes everytime you left your house.
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Reply #121 posted 10/25/02 2:54pm

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actually supernova,

what i read was - IF u were her father then you'd be upset but as u are NOT u don't really give a flying fig... u then went on to relate that this man was someone's son, grandson, brother yada yada YA...

i was merely trying to gage exactly what ur point was.

No, I've never said or even intimated that I didn't give a flying fig about the Van Dam case. Though I personally don't care about Westerfield, I wonder about the feelings of a murderer's parents in many cases of death penalty consequences. I did say that the outcome of the case didn't surprise me, and it doesn't. I didn't care about McVeigh, and I don't care about this animal who killed 10 people on the East Coast during the past few weeks. He'll die by the governments hands if he doesn't die by an inmate's hands first. I did say that generally I don't support the death penalty. But I also don't feel any sympathy for this monster.

Btw, it's impossible for me to be anyone's father. I'm very fond of schlong, but I'm not attached to one.



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Reply #122 posted 10/25/02 3:16pm

Essence

Ahh the irony, self proclaimed "civilised" society demanding execution to satiate their blood lust.
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Reply #123 posted 10/25/02 4:24pm

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The death penalty does not deter criminals from committing crimes, and too many innocent people have been accused, convicted and sent to death. Yesterday, the news reported that a fingerprint matching the boy was found at the scene. Today they reported he was 100 yards away at a gas station. How do they know this?

A police officer who chased the father has positively identified him as the man standing over the dead woman's body - he gave chase. Chief Moose stated the officer identified him immediately, good thing the the officer had x-ray vision and was able to see this man's face from the back of his head while chasing him. disbelief

The media and police departments have alread convicted these people and have convinced everyone they are the snipers. I swear, sometimes people can be so gullible.
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Reply #124 posted 10/25/02 5:22pm

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like i said i was gauging what was being written as to what the actual conveyence meant...

i think i have it better now...the understanding of what u meant!!

sorry didn't mean to assume u were a man...

as i am on the east coast and this was very close to home for me, these were my neighbors, friends, co-workers and children that were being threatened. i want satisfaction we may never be vindicated but i want the example set that this BS will not be tolerated.

jefferey dahmer met his end the way he should have
as did timothy mcveigh - ted bundy and the son of sam..
too bad they feel the need to keep charles manson alive- have we learned anything yet?

alot of the points on this subject is too many innocent people get caught up in the system (its called circumstantial evidence) i have seen more than a few guilty as hell people walk away scott free.

justice is blind - a double edge sword the bottom line is balance.
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Reply #125 posted 10/25/02 7:08pm

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

CalhounSq said:

mrchristian said:

I understand that the family of that mother would be very emotional as they should be, but violence in the face of violence doesn't right a wrong, and it won't bring her back.


So, because a member of MY family wasn't murdered, I shouldn't be outraged?

Any one of those murdered could have been a member of my family. They have so little regard for human life, why the hell should I care about the preservation of theirs?


Exactly. Reading some of the posts in this thread and others involving the snipers just gives me the feeling that because a lot of you were not in this area don't get what it felt like to be a possible target for these assholes every time you left your house.


I agree...
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Reply #126 posted 10/26/02 2:10am

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Don't kill em. Study these people's disturbed minds, so that we can find out what makes them tick, in an effort to prevent future tragedies like this from occurring.

I agree with savoirefaire but I think before we study these people's minds we should study the minds of the people who are lobbying for the NRA and who think it is their constitutional right to own and carry weapons. These people are the ones who make it possible to get easy access to weapons.

I am definetly against the death penalty and I think before we even start to put ourselves on the same level as these murderers we should invest all our energy to create a system that erases easy access to weapons, before we even think about the death penalty. But as long as money counts more than the life of a human being I am afraid this will not happen.

Finally I would like to ask all the orgers in this thread who are in favour of the death penalty, would you be willing to personally kill the snipers or do you need somebody who is doing the job for you so you don't have to live with the fact that you killed somebody?
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Reply #127 posted 10/26/02 2:20am

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Finally I would like to ask all the orgers in this thread who are in favour of the death penalty, would you be willing to personally kill the snipers or do you need somebody who is doing the job for you so you don't have to live with the fact that you killed somebody?


I could live with it either way. Would I rather kill them myself? No. I'd rather have the people who's job it is to handle that stuff handle it, just as I'd like lawyers to get innocent people off - I'm not a lawyer, I wouldn't try to step into that gig though I feel strongly about innocent folks remaining free.

I just want what's deserved, I want justice. Frying these mofo's is justice TO ME. I'd sleep like a baby...





suckle it...
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Reply #128 posted 10/26/02 2:28am

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Ifsixwuz9 said:

Reading some of the posts in this thread and others involving the snipers just gives me the feeling that because a lot of you were not in this area don't get what it felt like to be a possible target for these assholes every time you left your house.
Fuckin-a. My daughter was terrified. Everybody around here started looking over their shoulder all the time whenever outside. I'm PISSED at the sniper. I'm not a fan of the death penalty, but I hope he fucking DIES. mad
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Reply #129 posted 10/28/02 9:28am

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Let me also point out that the reason it is more expensive to put someone to death is because of the endless legal battles to carry it out.
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Reply #130 posted 12/07/02 6:53am

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Bros would b screaming to fry him if he took a shot a Prince during an aftershow

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Reply #131 posted 12/07/02 8:17am

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I don't understand, people r in favor of death penalty when they r 100% sure. What about life-sentece? Is that one u'r 95% sure? And 40 yrs when u'r 80% sure? Death penalty is wrong on so many levels, not in the least bcause u'll always b killing a certain percentage of innocent people. No urge 4 revenge can justify the possiblility of killing an innocent person. No system ever will b perfect, but so many people here r only considering one side of the story, without thinking of all the consequences.
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Reply #132 posted 12/07/02 1:57pm

sawatdiikhrap

I think life imprisonment is best. Get them in the showers with some beefy guy with a 12 inch cock.
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Reply #133 posted 12/07/02 2:13pm

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I think death penalty leads to more serial killers.

Imagine you kill one person. You know that society will hang you if they find out. Will that make it easer or harder to kill another person?

And now a very real problem in American police life, as far as I know:

You shoot a cop and there are five others approaching. If they catch you, you'll be hung. How many cops will you kill in the end?

And how many cops would you have killed if you wouldn't get death sentence if they caught you, but each murder would increase your penalty?
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Reply #134 posted 12/07/02 2:15pm

sawatdiikhrap

LillianLaughs said:

I think death penalty leads to more serial killers.

Imagine you kill one person. You know that society will hang you if they find out. Will that make it easer or harder to kill another person?

And now a very real problem in American police life, as far as I know:

You shoot a cop and there are five others approaching. If they catch you, you'll be hung. How many cops will you kill in the end?

And how many cops would you have killed if you wouldn't get death sentence if they caught you, but each murder would increase your penalty?



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