supernova...did u ever think that

That little gurl was someone's daughter - could have been, but will never have the chance now to be someone's mother, sister, lover, friend, wife, co-worker, neighbor, grandmother...he has been whatever he was intended to be - she has no options!!

someone on this thread said that they'd like to see the 17yr old serve life well that equates out to 561,000.00 dollars - i'd rather send them to alabama first.

furthermore, since we have all these "issues" with people being on death row and all the innocents killed - firstly no one ever said the system was flawless, secondly they get to sit there anywhere from 10-30yrs hell i believe in the old ways right to due process and justice should be swift.

i honestly believe that if one valued life, they would not intentionally murder someone but if you have then u need to be removed from yours.

No

It may be an easy way out, but I want those fuckers to DIE. Life itself is a gift, they took too many to retain theirs. Unfortunately, if they are given the death penalty it won't happen right away, they'll still be allowed to live for a few more years. The best thing would be to torture them but since that will never happen (lawfully), kill those bastards...

I am not for death-penalties BUT i would not care a bit what ever happens to those guys.
Let them walk freely in prison and let them be threatened by snipers who once in a while take a shot on those two. First try to shoot them all the 10 fingers of.

I know an eye for an eye makes blind but those guys don't deserve my symphaty. As sorry as i am ,NOT.

soulpower said:

Part of my religion? I don't have a religion. I was born Jewish, but that's the only thing that connects me with that religion.

If the two of them are guilty,

Fuck em and Fry em!

DCM

That Hungry Lion thing sounds good too!

PS. Why is this even a debate? If someone killed your family members who were picked at random by some serial sniper nutbag, would you want that person to live?

SexLovely said:

Well Unfortunatly... in the past several years it is regular practice to go by lethal injection - which involves NO pain, as they put you to sleep first.

Now THAT's punishment!

LaVisHh said:

Da buggery fuck!!??? Thats practically a full pardon.
They should be forced 2 kneel down in a vat of acid and chew on a big peice of tin foil while listening 2 The Monkees and having 2 watch their bollox disintigrate.

Now THATS torture.

SexLovely said:

LMAO!!!


U kill me :O Not literally...

LaVisHh said:

baby if I killed U I wouldnt be able to live with myself. I'd have 2 give myself a lethal injection...only because there aint no way Im listening 2 The Monkees.

I don't believe in the death penalty in any case. However, take comfort in the fact that there is, indeed, honor amongst theives...
Whenever someone commits a completely horrific act (i.e. Jeffery Dahmer) and is incarcerated they usually end up being killed by their fellow inmates.
I think that these guys will meet a similar fate.

CalhounSq said:

I can understand why you feel this way, as would the families of the victims...but we do live in a civilized society.
We can't legislate through high emotions and gut feeling, we have to do what's right. We have a court system that is supposed to work under the right conditions(it's not perfect, for the reasons The Max offered is why i don't support the death penalty). But if we lawfully or unlawfully torture and then kill these two, how are we any better than them?

mrchristian said:

B/c they deserve it. What did the mother pumping gas or the husband leaving the restaurant do to deserve the death these snipers willingly imposed on them?

CalhounSq said:

I understand that the family of that mother would be very emotional as they should be, but violence in the face of violence doesn't right a wrong, and it won't bring her back.
Put it this way...on a much smaller scale. If my kid was a problem child, always getting in trouble, doing drugs, getting in fights, etc--if my reaction to that is to constantly get infuriated with him, to yell or scream at him, or even hitting him. Am i adding to the problem or teaching him a lesson?
That's my only point, but you have every right to your opinion, just the same.

CalhounSq said:

Calhoun, LaV made a pretty similar remark earlier. just like yours it was full of hate and ugly emotions. with you bringing those out, the sniper got what he wanted. he won over you.

IceNine said:

I'm concerned about accidentally killing the wrongly accused, so I oppose the death penalty in general.

But I've got a better idea: Slavery for criminals!

Don't just get em to make license plates, put to work building roads, sewing clothes, doing dangerous work, whatever. Get some free labor from these mother-fuckers, rather than just feeding and sheltering them for the rest of their lives! Seriously--especially those convicted of murder--they have no rights, and therefore slavery is entirely appropriate in this case.

soulpower said:

Great, now lets kill him...

Seriously though, me wanting him to rot in jail is as useless as me wanting him to fry - I'M not in control of what happens to these assholes. He won over me? Yea, me & the entire country. People were scared & rightfully so. People are pissed off at them & rightfully so...

mrchristian said:

So, because a member of MY family wasn't murdered, I shouldn't be outraged?

Any one of those murdered could have been a member of my family. They have so little regard for human life, why the hell should I care about the preservation of theirs?



Do you really think these guys can be taught a lesson?? I'm not sure about the teen (who knows how long he's been influenced by this, he could be turned around I suppose) but the man is a lost cause. I expect a grown man to make better decisions than a problem child. I expect an adult to be dealt with in accordance w/ the crimes he CHOSE to commit.

We're just on a different page, that's all...

teller said:

According to Michael Moore, for years convicts have been working in all differnet types of telecommuncation jobs -- making plane reservations, corporate customer service, etc.

No one is EVER a lost cause but everyone has to answer and pay for their own actions. Whatever that price may be.

ScarLett said:

Yes. Did you ever see the part where

I said:

Obviously if you read my whole post you'd see that it's not a 100% clear cut, black and white issue for me. Many things in life aren't.

soulpower said:

SoulPower...what makes you want to tell someone how they feel? Ugly emotions? I think he won over YOU...cuz you seem to be on the side of the criminal...I believe what I do, and you have the right to believe what you do.

Let's leave it at that, okay?

Thanks.

mrchristian said:

ok .. i re-read it... i can be an idiot somtimes

mrchristian said:

LaVisHh said:

No bad feelings, LaV... just to see you so enraged made me kinda sad... why do you think I'm on the side of the criminal? thats the same stupid thing to say as I'm a supporter of Saddam and Osama because I am against bombing Iraq's brains out... and you know that. I am not pro-anything but pro-human. Killing in the name of the law sure is no different than killing for a personal reason. its simply the same inhuman action, a simple crime.

soulpower said:

If nothing else, trust me when I say I am not enraged, lol... I post in fun most of the time.

LaVisHh said:

I know that, just your aggressive side, the way you want these people to suffer, scared me a little.

actually supernova,

what i read was - IF u were her father then you'd be upset but as u are NOT u don't really give a flying fig... u then went on to relate that this man was someone's son, grandson, brother yada yada YA...

i was merely trying to gage exactly what ur point was.