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Printableheybaby said: Most of the time its not about beauty or intelligence. It how you feel about yourself. How you view yourself is what you attract. people pick up on that subconsciously.
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because people can be attracted to arrogance?  | |
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Byron said: Lots o' theories:
1) Confidence...it's a strong aphrodisiac for women. Jerks tend to have it more.
2) The only women who want "quality guys" are the ones who are currently involved with jerks or have just been dumped by jerk #3. (and in reality, she wants the jerk to suddenly transform into a quality guy, she doesn't actually want to dump him and go find one). "Quality Guys" don't usually become a woman's 1st choice until she's hit her mid-30s lol... 3) Woman want what other women have, maybe?...If he is constantly having lots of girlfriends, they want in. If he never has a girlfriend, they wonder what's wrong with him or start to assume he's gay. 
4) He's really good looking and the women who are interested in him are, in reality, just very superficial lol... That's about right. | |
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JDInteractive said: INSATIABLE said: If you're 'intelligent and beautiful' and desire a partner with low self-esteem, who REALLY has the self-esteem issue? Give us a clue?!   Oh shit, my hat done fell off | |
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semi jerk? this guy sounds like a full jerk. | |
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INSATIABLE said: JDInteractive said: Give us a clue?! That's for wearing a bad shirt. There's Joy In Expatriation. | |
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Byron said: Lots o' theories:
1) Confidence...it's a strong aphrodisiac for women. Jerks tend to have it more.
2) The only women who want "quality guys" are the ones who are currently involved with jerks or have just been dumped by jerk #3. (and in reality, she wants the jerk to suddenly transform into a quality guy, she doesn't actually want to dump him and go find one). "Quality Guys" don't usually become a woman's 1st choice until she's hit her mid-30s lol... 3) Woman want what other women have, maybe?...If he is constantly having lots of girlfriends, they want in. If he never has a girlfriend, they wonder what's wrong with him or start to assume he's gay.
4) He's really good looking and the women who are interested in him are, in reality, just very superficial lol... Numbers 1 and 2 are toooo true! If you will, so will I | |
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Because almost always they know how to fuck. Sex is evil that way 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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JasmineFire said: semi jerk? this guy sounds like a full jerk.
Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" .....  .....If you will, so will I | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Because almost always they know how to fuck. Sex is evil that way
So thats 3 I think, for 'better sex'
 interesting...If you will, so will I | |
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thekidsgirl said: JasmineFire said: semi jerk? this guy sounds like a full jerk.
Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" ..... .....You have an inside take on how he really is. why would you want someone like that? | |
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thekidsgirl said: JasmineFire said: semi jerk? this guy sounds like a full jerk.
Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" ..... .....is his name Vincent? | |
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thekidsgirl said: JasmineFire said: semi jerk? this guy sounds like a full jerk.
Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" ..... .....
and you sig.....
whew lawd, I need to get outta here! surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
I ain't felt this way in years... | |
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although technially about a different subject, the essence of your question reminds me of an snl digital short about sexual harassment; set in an office, manly hunk tom brady swaggers up (at one point, wearing only his jockey shorts) to "co-worker" amy poehler and asks her to lunch, and she eagerly accepts. then, before walking away, he reaches out and squeezes her breast which doesn't offend her nor merit him a slap, but only causes her to giggle.
in contrast, sweet but dorky fred armisen also attempts to - respectfully - ask amy out to lunch but barely gets out "Would you care to..." before she cuts him off and snaps at him to cease sexually harassing her, then grabs for her phone to report his unacceptable behaviour. at the end of the short, the advice given to avoid sexual harassment charges, but which might also be applicable to your question, is: 1. Be handsome. 2. Be attractive. 3. Don't be unattractive. 
in a more serious answer to your question, in my experience people of both genders attach themselves to jerks for a few main reasons -- they enjoy or need the inherent drama of dating a jerk; they believe they can change the jerk or fix them, and make them a 'better person'; they think they will 'be different', and won't be treated the same way the jerk treats everybody else. | |
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heybaby said: thekidsgirl said: Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" ..... .....You have an inside take on how he really is. why would you want someone like that? Because we are really good friends, and I see his better, more honest sides most often. If you will, so will I | |
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WillyWonka said: although technially about a different subject, the essence of your question reminds me of an snl digital short about sexual harassment; set in an office, manly hunk tom brady swaggers up (at one point, wearing only his jockey shorts) to "co-worker" amy poehler and asks her to lunch, and she eagerly accepts. then, before walking away, he reaches out and squeezes her breast which doesn't offend her nor merit him a slap, but only causes her to giggle.
in contrast, sweet but dorky fred armisen also attempts to - respectfully - ask amy out to lunch but barely gets out "Would you care to..." before she cuts him off and snaps at him to cease sexually harassing her, then grabs for her phone to report his unacceptable behaviour. at the end of the short, the advice given to avoid sexual harassment charges, but which might also be applicable to your question, is: 1. Be handsome. 2. Be attractive. 3. Don't be unattractive.
in a more serious answer to your question, in my experience people of both genders attach themselves to jerks for a few main reasons -- they enjoy or need the inherent drama of dating a jerk; they believe they can change the jerk or fix them, and make them a 'better person'; they think they will 'be different', and won't be treated the same way the jerk treats everybody else. wow, sometimes SNL still gets it right
but yeah, I agree with you. I guess I'm falling into the "won't be treated the same way the jerk treats everybody else" category 
ugh! If you will, so will I | |
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DanceWme said: thekidsgirl said: Well I say "semi" because he has many great qualities I mean, outside of his lovelife he's actually quite sweet and mellow. But I find his treatment of women to be kinda jerk-ish, though he says he only treats "these particular girls like this because they are his 'hoes',not actual girlfriends" ..... .....is his name Vincent? 
not as far as I know If you will, so will I | |
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thekidsgirl said: heybaby said: You have an inside take on how he really is. why would you want someone like that? Because we are really good friends, and I see his better, more honest sides most often. oh man. 
you got it bad, don't you? He may be a great friend and social aquaintance but be real for a minute...this guy is no prize, has a very low opinion of women, and is a jerk. If a friend of mine or a family member was dating him I would probably try to talk some sense into her and supress the desire to punch him in his face. This dude is a jerk. 100% bonafide jerk. I dated one like this and all I have to say is . It was so not worth it. Let him be your platonic friend so that you can continue to see the better and more honest sides that you like because if you get involved with him you'll never see those sides ever again. | |
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JasmineFire said: thekidsgirl said: Because we are really good friends, and I see his better, more honest sides most often. oh man.
you got it bad, don't you? He may be a great friend and social aquaintance but be real for a minute...this guy is no prize, has a very low opinion of women, and is a jerk. If a friend of mine or a family member was dating him I would probably try to talk some sense into her and supress the desire to punch him in his face. This dude is a jerk. 100% bonafide jerk. I dated one like this and all I have to say is . It was so not worth it. Let him be your platonic friend so that you can continue to see the better and more honest sides that you like because if you get involved with him you'll never see those sides ever again. Oh God 
Something about the way you phrased that was really, uh real... I appreciate it! I feel kinda stupid right now for feeling like that toward him Why am I defending a jerk? He is what he is...Even if he's nice most days, you're right Damn If you will, so will I | |
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thekidsgirl said: JasmineFire said: oh man.
you got it bad, don't you? He may be a great friend and social aquaintance but be real for a minute...this guy is no prize, has a very low opinion of women, and is a jerk. If a friend of mine or a family member was dating him I would probably try to talk some sense into her and supress the desire to punch him in his face. This dude is a jerk. 100% bonafide jerk. I dated one like this and all I have to say is . It was so not worth it. Let him be your platonic friend so that you can continue to see the better and more honest sides that you like because if you get involved with him you'll never see those sides ever again. Oh God
Something about the way you phrased that was really, uh real... I appreciate it! I feel kinda stupid right now for feeling like that toward him Why am I defending a jerk? He is what he is...Even if he's nice most days, you're right Damn  Your welcome.
Don't feel stupid, you're human. I think that every woman, at lest once in her life (if not more), has been in love with a jerk. I know I have. | |
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thekidsgirl said: I've always wondered...Why do intelligent, beautiful, clever people get hung up on jerks so often??
Why does this phenomenon occur when there are supposedly plenty of quality guys out there? Because they are not emotionally intelligent and clever. If they were, they would not go after jerks. They just need to find a quality guy/girl who is a good fucker. When/If they find, they will marry them. | |
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JDInteractive said: Nice guys finish last.
"Nice guys finish first. If you don't know that, then you don't know where the finish line is." - Garry Shandling | |
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Byron said: 1) Confidence...it's a strong aphrodisiac for women. Jerks tend to have it more.
2) The only women who want "quality guys" are the ones who are currently involved with jerks or have just been dumped by jerk #3. (and in reality, she wants the jerk to suddenly transform into a quality guy, she doesn't actually want to dump him and go find one). "Quality Guys" don't usually become a woman's 1st choice until she's hit her mid-30s lol... 3) Woman want what other women have, maybe?...If he is constantly having lots of girlfriends, they want in. If he never has a girlfriend, they wonder what's wrong with him or start to assume he's gay.
4) He's really good looking and the women who are interested in him are, in reality, just very superficial lol... ^ Nailed it. | |
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