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Thread started 01/29/08 1:06pm

Graycap23

Golf: Sport or activity?

I have this on going argument with a friend of mine. He insist that golf is a sport, and I insist that it is NOT a sport but more of an activity. What do u guys think? Sport or no?


Here is my logic:
1. The ball is NEVER moving when u come in contact with it.
2. U are standing still when u "make" a play.
3. U don't even sweat when u play. If u do sweat it's because the weather is hot, not because of your physical movement.
4. No one is playing defense.
5. The crowd can't cheer when u are making a play.
6. Anything u are better at the age of 55 than 25 CANNOT possible be a sport.
7. No refs
8. The average golfer would get killed trying 2 play real sports like football, basketball, boxing.....
9. There is NO running involved

I could go on.
[Edited 1/29/08 13:12pm]
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Reply #1 posted 01/29/08 1:17pm

mdiver

I am an 8 handicapper, come out with me and i will prove the skill involved in this sport.
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Reply #2 posted 01/29/08 1:19pm

benyamin

It's neither. It's GAY. hah! PHIL YOU BIG GAY hah!

Okay no seriously it's a sport.

A gay sport. giggle
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Reply #3 posted 01/29/08 1:20pm

NDRU

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I sometimes think it's a game for the reasons you mention (like darts or bowling) but I could argue that it's a sport.

Most of the top golfers are not 55 they're younger than 40.

The physical skill in accurately driving a ball 200 yards could easily be compared to pitching or hitting in baseball.

Look at the young golfers, they're all in great shape now.

Watch them hit a ball in slow motion, not the flexibility, strength, accuracy, speed--all athletic traits.
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Reply #4 posted 01/29/08 1:21pm

Illustrator

This is a follow up to your lesbian thread, isn't it?
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Reply #5 posted 01/29/08 1:22pm

Graycap23

There is skill in heart surgery. Does that make it a sport?
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Reply #6 posted 01/29/08 1:27pm

Anxiety

knitting is an activity. caving is an activity. ceramics? an activity.

golf is a sport. it involves competition, keeping score, and maneuvering a ball around. all of that = SPORT.
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Reply #7 posted 01/29/08 1:28pm

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

knitting is an activity. caving is an activity. ceramics? an activity.

golf is a sport. it involves competition, keeping score, and maneuvering a ball around. all of that = SPORT.

So.....is Chess a sport?
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Reply #8 posted 01/29/08 1:29pm

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

knitting is an activity. caving is an activity. ceramics? an activity.

golf is a sport. it involves competition, keeping score, and maneuvering a ball around. all of that = SPORT.

By that logic, playing a pinball machine is also a sport.
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Reply #9 posted 01/29/08 1:30pm

muirdo

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Next to Snooker,Golf is probably one of the most skillfull sports there is.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
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Reply #10 posted 01/29/08 1:30pm

NDRU

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Graycap23 said:

Anxiety said:

knitting is an activity. caving is an activity. ceramics? an activity.

golf is a sport. it involves competition, keeping score, and maneuvering a ball around. all of that = SPORT.

So.....is Chess a sport?


chess doesn't involve physical skill
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Reply #11 posted 01/29/08 1:31pm

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

Anxiety said:

knitting is an activity. caving is an activity. ceramics? an activity.

golf is a sport. it involves competition, keeping score, and maneuvering a ball around. all of that = SPORT.

So.....is Chess a sport?


well, there are international chess tournaments. i think an argument would be that chess is primarily a test of intellect (and it's a board game - no balls to chase around!) and golf has more of a physical element to it (and NO, i'm not dismissing the fact that you need a decent intellect to play golf - but you don't need a mean swing to play chess).
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Reply #12 posted 01/29/08 1:33pm

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:


So.....is Chess a sport?


well, there are international chess tournaments. i think an argument would be that chess is primarily a test of intellect (and it's a board game - no balls to chase around!) and golf has more of a physical element to it (and NO, i'm not dismissing the fact that you need a decent intellect to play golf - but you don't need a mean swing to play chess).

Is playing pool a sport?
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Reply #13 posted 01/29/08 1:33pm

NDRU

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Now, Poker DEFINITELY has no business being on ESPN!
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Reply #14 posted 01/29/08 1:35pm

NDRU

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Some of your criteria could be applied to tennis as well, such as "being killed if they tried to play football," and "the crowd must be quiet."
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Reply #15 posted 01/29/08 1:37pm

Graycap23

NDRU said:

Some of your criteria could be applied to tennis as well, such as "being killed if they tried to play football," and "the crowd must be quiet."

U have 2 look at the collective. I just really don't see how it is a sport. It's no different than the game of pool.
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Reply #16 posted 01/29/08 1:37pm

NDRU

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Here's a very controversial reason I see golf as a sport....ready?



Men are better at it. boxed
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Reply #17 posted 01/29/08 1:39pm

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

Anxiety said:



well, there are international chess tournaments. i think an argument would be that chess is primarily a test of intellect (and it's a board game - no balls to chase around!) and golf has more of a physical element to it (and NO, i'm not dismissing the fact that you need a decent intellect to play golf - but you don't need a mean swing to play chess).

Is playing pool a sport?


isn't it? i've seen competitions broadcast on sports programs.
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Reply #18 posted 01/29/08 1:40pm

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:


Is playing pool a sport?


isn't it? i've seen competitions broadcast on sports programs.

I consider it an activity. They broadcast fishing on sports programs and poker also.
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Reply #19 posted 01/29/08 1:41pm

mdiver

Graycap23 said:

I have this on going argument with a friend of mine. He insist that golf is a sport, and I insist that it is NOT a sport but more of an activity. What do u guys think? Sport or no?


Here is my logic:
1. The ball is NEVER moving when u come in contact with it.true
2. U are standing still when u "make" a play. rubbish if you are still you impart no motion the golf swing is hugely complex movement
3. U don't even sweat when u play. If u do sweat it's because the weather is hot, not because of your physical movement. depends
4. No one is playing defense. true
5. The crowd can't cheer when u are making a play. true
6. Anything u are better at the age of 55 than 25 CANNOT possible be a sport. it is bs that the older you get the better you get
7. No refs not true
8. The average golfer would get killed trying 2 play real sports like football, basketball, boxing..... i am an average golfer and i play football and rugby ...not dead yet
9. There is NO running involved true

I could go on.
[Edited 1/29/08 13:12pm]


4/9....case not proved wink
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Reply #20 posted 01/29/08 1:43pm

Graycap23

5/9 are.....majority rules. wink
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Reply #21 posted 01/29/08 1:46pm

mdiver

Graycap23 said:

5/9 are.....majority rules. wink


4 1/2 lets call it a draw wink
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Reply #22 posted 01/29/08 1:48pm

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

Anxiety said:



isn't it? i've seen competitions broadcast on sports programs.

I consider it an activity. They broadcast fishing on sports programs and poker also.


doesn't fishing count on technicality? isn't it usually referred to as "sporting"?
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Reply #23 posted 01/29/08 1:48pm

Mach

Depending on the mind set and intentions of the player - it can be either or
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Reply #24 posted 01/29/08 1:49pm

Graycap23

Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:


I consider it an activity. They broadcast fishing on sports programs and poker also.


doesn't fishing count on technicality? isn't it usually referred to as "sporting"?

I guess my main point is, I don't care what they "call" it, it's NOT a sport. At least not 2 me.
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Reply #25 posted 01/29/08 1:51pm

muirdo

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Definition of Sport

"Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors."
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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Reply #26 posted 01/29/08 1:51pm

abierman

golf rocks! headbang

season starts in 2 months! woot!
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Reply #27 posted 01/29/08 1:53pm

Graycap23

muirdo said:

Definition of Sport

"Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors."

So "pool" is a sport?
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Reply #28 posted 01/29/08 1:55pm

Anxiety

Graycap23 said:

muirdo said:

Definition of Sport

"Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors."

So "pool" is a sport?


why not? it's competitive, it's based on a points system, it can even be a team sport, and it's a test of hand-eye coordination, isn't it?
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Reply #29 posted 01/29/08 1:57pm

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Anxiety said:

Graycap23 said:


So "pool" is a sport?


why not? it's competitive, it's based on a points system, it can even be a team sport, and it's a test of hand-eye coordination, isn't it?



Exactly and as Ive said earlier I think snooker and golf must be 2 of the most skillful sports there is.Id even through darts into that.(scuse the pun)
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
woot!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05
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