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Ace

The greatest gift I could give The Org

For my Org peeps who I (mostly) love razz :


You're happy. Imagine that!
Why people are so bad at predicting what will make them feel good

May 21, 2006.

JUDY STOFFMAN
TORONTO STAR

Real estate agents say you should buy the worst house in the toniest neighbourhood rather than the best house on a modest street.

But Daniel Gilbert, a Harvard University psychology professor, believes such a purchase is rarely a prescription for happiness. Before you sign that offer to purchase, consider how you'll feel coming home each day to a dump amidst the mansions.

"It will make you feel bad because the brain is a difference detector; almost everything that it senses, it senses as a comparison," he says in Toronto to talk about his book Stumbling on Happiness.

The capacity to imagine future happiness or unhappiness — called "affective forecasting" — is, Gilbert says, what distinguishes us from other animals.

As he puts it, "We don't have to actually have gall bladder surgery or lounge around on a Caribbean beach to know that one of these is better than another."

Gilbert has spent 15 years at Harvard's Social Cognition and Emotion laboratory investigating how people imagine what will make them happy, and why they so often get it wrong.

He has found that small pleasures like coming home to a house no worse than the neighbour's is more likely to yield long-term joy than inheriting $1 million, getting a big promotion or being elected president.

"It's the frequency and not the intensity of positive events in your life that leads to happiness, like comfortable shoes or single malt scotch," he says.

Gilbert's happiness level increased when he was hired by Harvard, not because of the prestige but because he could walk to work. Cargo pants also make him happy; he likes to buy them five or six at a time, though he wore a black sports jacket and well-tailored black trousers for our interview in the office of his publisher, Knopf Canada.

Although we humans have the capacity to imagine what will make us happy lodged in our well-developed frontal lobes, we are not good at it. It's the way we consistently err that fascinates the professor.

His researchers at Harvard interviewed voters before and after recent U.S. elections who said they would be extremely unhappy if George W. Bush won and would likely move to Canada — but who reported after the vote that they feel just fine.

"In prospect it always seems so dire," he says.

The Harvard researchers have also done extensive interviews with sports fans who just know they'll never smile again if their team loses but, of course, recover speedily after a loss.

"The human brain mispredicts the sources of its own satisfaction," Gilbert says, "and the reason is that we fail to understand how quickly we will adapt to both positive and negative events. People are consistently surprised by how quickly the abnormal becomes normal, the extraordinary becomes ordinary. When people say I could never get used to that, they are almost always wrong."

Gilbert believes we have an emotional immune system that helps us regain our equilibrium after catastrophic events.

`I am not saying that losing a leg won't change you in profound ways. But it won't lower your day-to-day happiness

in the long run'
"The studies of Holocaust survivors are clear — most went on to lead happy and productive lives," he says.

He also cites extensive research to show that disabled people and those who have had cancer are just as likely to report that they are happy as the able-bodied and healthy.

"I am not saying that losing a leg won't change you in profound ways. But it won't lower your day-to-day happiness in the long run."

Gilbert is not working in a vacuum. He is one of a growing number of scholars engaged in the relatively new field of happiness studies, an interdisciplinary area comprising psychologists, neuroscientists, philosophers and economists.

At Harvard, economists Max Bazerman, Sendhil Mullainathan and David Laibson are notable in the field. A behavioural economist, Laibson is an expert on retirement-savings plans who studies why people tend to devalue the future in favour of present gratification.

At Princeton, Daniel Kahneman has co-written a standard work, Well-Being: The Foundations of Hedonic Psychology.

Ed Diener at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champagne is studying the relationship of income to happiness.

Launched in 2000, there is even a peer-reviewed Journal of Happiness Studies, of which Diener is co-editor.

While some see it as a soft subject, understanding happiness may be extremely relevant today, says moral philosopher Sissela Bok, due to a worldwide rise in living and health standards and a drop in birth rates and infant mortality. More people expect to be happy.

In Canada, University of British Columbia economist John Helliwell is the country's leading figure in happiness studies. Helliwell, whose book Globalization and Well-Being won the Donner Prize in 2003, has studied the happiness that comes from social affiliation and its relationship to productivity.

One of the problems in happiness studies is how to measure outcomes. You can't build a science on something that can't be measured. Gilbert, however, says that self-reporting, the method used by his lab, is perfectly reliable.

"We just ask people how they feel right now. The eye doctor relies on you telling him what you see. Vision, like happiness, is subjective, yet they have built a whole science of optometry on this."

Is there a better way to predict what will make us happy than using our imagination?

"Yes," he says, "but no one wants to use it. It's called surrugation, and it circumvents biases and errors. If you want to know how happy you'll be if you win the lottery, ask a lottery winner — it's a mixed blessing. Will having children make you happy? Observe people who have them."

People discount this approach because of what Gilbert calls "the myth of fingerprints."

"Most of us have the illusion of uniqueness," he says. "We believe that other people's reactions won't tell us about our likes and dislikes. But we are remarkably similar. We share the same biology, and others' experiences can teach us a great deal about our own.

"As long as we maintain our illusions about our uniqueness, we will continue to ignore information that's in front of our noses."
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Reply #1 posted 01/25/08 12:27am

Anxiety

i thought this was going to be a photowhore thread. pout
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Reply #2 posted 01/25/08 12:31am

Ace

Anxiety said:

i thought this was going to be a photowhore thread. pout

If I weren't so blissfully happy, I'd fishslap you.
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Reply #3 posted 01/25/08 12:32am

Anxiety

Ace said:

Anxiety said:

i thought this was going to be a photowhore thread. pout

If I weren't so blissfully happy, I'd fishslap you.


okay fine, i'll play it your way. but seriously - is there a way to benefit from that article that doesn't involve having to read all that? biggrin
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Reply #4 posted 01/25/08 12:40am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


If I weren't so blissfully happy, I'd fishslap you.


okay fine, i'll play it your way. but seriously - is there a way to benefit from that article that doesn't involve having to read all that? biggrin

Never figured you for a tl/dr'er, but here's the CliffsNotes version for you:


People don't know shit about what will make them happy.

It's the frequency, stupid.


Don't you Taoists know anything?
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Reply #5 posted 01/25/08 12:43am

Anxiety

Ace said:




Don't you Taoists know anything?



not on a good day we don't. smile
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Reply #6 posted 01/25/08 12:47am

Byron

Ace said:


It's the frequency, stupid.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?...
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Reply #7 posted 01/25/08 12:50am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:




Don't you Taoists know anything?



not on a good day we don't. smile

While the Old Me would've proffered a sarcastic, "Ha, ha, ha", the New Me says, "That is a very clever quip, Anxiety! Thank you for contributing to my joy, today. " smile
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Reply #8 posted 01/25/08 12:52am

Anxiety

Ace said:

Anxiety said:




not on a good day we don't. smile

While the Old Me would've proffered a sarcastic, "Ha, ha, ha", the New Me says, "That is a very clever quip, Anxiety! Thank you for contributing to my joy, today. " smile


thank you for acknowledging the illusion of my uniqueness. smile
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Reply #9 posted 01/25/08 12:57am

Ace

Byron said:

Ace said:


It's the frequency, stupid.

What's the frequency, Kenneth?...

While R.E.M. makes me unhappy, I have regained my emotional equilibrium. smile

...Unless you are not referencing the R.E.M. song, but the Dan Rather "incident", in which case I say, "Thank you for reminding me of that amusing story!". smile
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Reply #10 posted 01/25/08 12:57am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


While the Old Me would've proffered a sarcastic, "Ha, ha, ha", the New Me says, "That is a very clever quip, Anxiety! Thank you for contributing to my joy, today. " smile


thank you for acknowledging the illusion of my uniqueness. smile

It is my pleasure! smile
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Reply #11 posted 01/25/08 12:58am

Byron

Ace said:

Byron said:


What's the frequency, Kenneth?...

While R.E.M. makes me unhappy, I have regained my emotional equilibrium. smile

...Unless you are not referencing the R.E.M. song, but the Dan Rather "incident", in which case I say, "Thank you for reminding me of that amusing story!". smile

Referring to Dan Rather all the way lol lol...
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Reply #12 posted 01/25/08 1:01am

Byron

Btw, what I think is the secret to happiness in Life: appreciation.

The more you appreciate life's experiences, both huge and minor, the easier it is to see things as a positive event in your mind...which means you'll automatically start having positive events more frequently in your life.
[Edited 1/24/08 17:01pm]
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Reply #13 posted 01/25/08 1:08am

Ace

Byron said:

The more you appreciate life's experiences, both huge and minor

In a recent interview, discussing "grace", Bruce Springsteen said, "Woody Allen once said he found himself happiest when he was standing in the kitchen in the morning, buttering his toast", agreeing that it was the little things that generally had the most impact on your personal happiness.
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Reply #14 posted 01/25/08 1:10am

Byron

Ace said:

Byron said:

The more you appreciate life's experiences, both huge and minor

In a recent interview, discussing "grace", Bruce Springsteen said, "Woody Allen once said he found himself happiest when he was standing in the kitchen in the morning, buttering his toast", agreeing that it was the little things that generally had the most impact on your personal happiness.

Well, I don't think it's necessarily the "little thing", but rather the mindset to appreciate them that leads to happiness. If you can appreciate little things in the same manner that you appreciate big things, your every waking moment will be filled with things to appreciate and enjoy.
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Reply #15 posted 01/25/08 1:11am

BlackAdder7

Ace said:

For my Org peeps who I (mostly) love razz :
nude photos of our favourite photowhores....





is it me, or is this thread missing something?? neutral
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Reply #16 posted 01/25/08 1:13am

Anxiety

Ace said:

Byron said:

The more you appreciate life's experiences, both huge and minor

In a recent interview, discussing "grace", Bruce Springsteen said, "Woody Allen once said he found himself happiest when he was standing in the kitchen in the morning, buttering his toast", agreeing that it was the little things that generally had the most impact on your personal happiness.


there's truth to that, certainly. thinking back to my childhood, i have more valuable memories of simple creature comforts like going to sleep while listening to my mom chatter on the phone in the next room, than i do from fleeting euphoric moments such as when i got exactly what i wanted for christmas. the greatest joy of unwrapping an indiana jones doll lasted for what - the two or three seconds it took for me to demolish the wrapping paper? this is not to say i didn't enjoy that toy for months afterwards, but the comfort of remembering the babble of a parent's voice lulling you to sleep is something that can calm you forever in a way that nothing else can. you don't think of it as a valuable moment at the time...i think in later years these moments reveal themselves to you as you meditate on the past. i don't know if you can predict or manipulate that kind of pleasure.
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Reply #17 posted 01/25/08 1:16am

Ace

Byron said:

Ace said:


In a recent interview, discussing "grace", Bruce Springsteen said, "Woody Allen once said he found himself happiest when he was standing in the kitchen in the morning, buttering his toast", agreeing that it was the little things that generally had the most impact on your personal happiness.

Well, I don't think it's necessarily the "little thing", but rather the mindset to appreciate them that leads to happiness. If you can appreciate little things in the same manner that you appreciate big things, your every waking moment will be filled with things to appreciate and enjoy.

I think that's implied, but true 'nuff. nod
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Reply #18 posted 01/25/08 1:18am

Stymie

I am so disappointed there was no picture of you attached to this thread. ;sigh:

Alas, I'll just referring to the mental picture I have of you. sad
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Reply #19 posted 01/25/08 1:25am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


In a recent interview, discussing "grace", Bruce Springsteen said, "Woody Allen once said he found himself happiest when he was standing in the kitchen in the morning, buttering his toast", agreeing that it was the little things that generally had the most impact on your personal happiness.


there's truth to that, certainly. thinking back to my childhood, i have more valuable memories of simple creature comforts like going to sleep while listening to my mom chatter on the phone in the next room, than i do from fleeting euphoric moments such as when i got exactly what i wanted for christmas. the greatest joy of unwrapping an indiana jones doll lasted for what - the two or three seconds it took for me to demolish the wrapping paper? this is not to say i didn't enjoy that toy for months afterwards, but the comfort of remembering the babble of a parent's voice lulling you to sleep is something that can calm you forever in a way that nothing else can. you don't think of it as a valuable moment at the time...i think in later years these moments reveal themselves to you as you meditate on the past. i don't know if you can predict or manipulate that kind of pleasure.

All I can tell you is that the things I was told would make me happy didn't make me as happy as paying attention to the circumstances that actually made me happy and creating those circumstances as often as possible.
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Reply #20 posted 01/25/08 1:27am

Ace

Stymie said:

I am so disappointed there was no picture of you attached to this thread. ;sigh:

Alas, I'll just referring to the mental picture I have of you. sad

lol Hi, Stymie! wave You're one of the Org peeps that I love. smile
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Reply #21 posted 01/25/08 1:28am

Anxiety

Ace said:

Anxiety said:



there's truth to that, certainly. thinking back to my childhood, i have more valuable memories of simple creature comforts like going to sleep while listening to my mom chatter on the phone in the next room, than i do from fleeting euphoric moments such as when i got exactly what i wanted for christmas. the greatest joy of unwrapping an indiana jones doll lasted for what - the two or three seconds it took for me to demolish the wrapping paper? this is not to say i didn't enjoy that toy for months afterwards, but the comfort of remembering the babble of a parent's voice lulling you to sleep is something that can calm you forever in a way that nothing else can. you don't think of it as a valuable moment at the time...i think in later years these moments reveal themselves to you as you meditate on the past. i don't know if you can predict or manipulate that kind of pleasure.

All I can tell you is that the things I was told would make me happy didn't make me as happy as paying attention to the circumstances that actually made me happy and creating those circumstances as often as possible.


well, okay. there's totally that.

but sometimes that can be like having a favorite kind of sandwich, you you bring that sandwich to work every day and after enough time, you start to hate that sandwich because you keep making yourself eat it every damn day. if your favorite M&M is the blue one, sometimes it's better to just grab a handful and be surprised rather than fishing out all the blue ones and leaving nothing to chance.
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Reply #22 posted 01/25/08 1:32am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


All I can tell you is that the things I was told would make me happy didn't make me as happy as paying attention to the circumstances that actually made me happy and creating those circumstances as often as possible.


well, okay. there's totally that.

but sometimes that can be like having a favorite kind of sandwich, you you bring that sandwich to work every day and after enough time, you start to hate that sandwich because you keep making yourself eat it every damn day. if your favorite M&M is the blue one, sometimes it's better to just grab a handful and be surprised rather than fishing out all the blue ones and leaving nothing to chance.

Woody said that, when he was on location for What's New, Pussycat?, he would go to the same restaurant and order the same thing every day. I'm the same way (without the talent). smile
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Reply #23 posted 01/25/08 1:39am

Anxiety

Ace said:

Anxiety said:



well, okay. there's totally that.

but sometimes that can be like having a favorite kind of sandwich, you you bring that sandwich to work every day and after enough time, you start to hate that sandwich because you keep making yourself eat it every damn day. if your favorite M&M is the blue one, sometimes it's better to just grab a handful and be surprised rather than fishing out all the blue ones and leaving nothing to chance.

Woody said that, when he was on location for What's New, Pussycat?, he would go to the same restaurant and order the same thing every day. I'm the same way (without the talent). smile


i can see woody being totally gratified by years and decades of sameness. lol
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Reply #24 posted 01/25/08 1:41am

Stymie

Ace said:

Stymie said:

I am so disappointed there was no picture of you attached to this thread. ;sigh:

Alas, I'll just referring to the mental picture I have of you. sad

lol Hi, Stymie! wave You're one of the Org peeps that I love. smile
I love you, too.
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Reply #25 posted 01/25/08 1:43am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


Woody said that, when he was on location for What's New, Pussycat?, he would go to the same restaurant and order the same thing every day. I'm the same way (without the talent). smile


i can see woody being totally gratified by years and decades of sameness. lol

"I like a rut. People call me up and say, 'I hope I'm not disturbing your rut, calling you up like this.' They know how much I like it." - Warhol
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Reply #26 posted 01/25/08 1:56am

Ace

Anxiety said:

Ace said:


Woody said that, when he was on location for What's New, Pussycat?, he would go to the same restaurant and order the same thing every day. I'm the same way (without the talent). smile


i can see woody being totally gratified by years and decades of sameness. lol

On becoming friendly with Vladimir Horowitz, Woody was pleasantly surprised to discover that he ate the same dinner every night. lol
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Reply #27 posted 01/25/08 3:55am

RodeoSchro

Anxiety said:

i thought this was going to be a photowhore thread. pout


I thought he was going to visually explain how he could rate something "two dicks up".
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Reply #28 posted 01/25/08 3:56am

Anxiety

RodeoSchro said:

Anxiety said:

i thought this was going to be a photowhore thread. pout


I thought he was going to visually explain how he could rate something "two dicks up".


oh, the things that could have been


but weren't


sigh
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Reply #29 posted 01/25/08 3:57am

RodeoSchro

Ace said:

Anxiety said:



well, okay. there's totally that.

but sometimes that can be like having a favorite kind of sandwich, you you bring that sandwich to work every day and after enough time, you start to hate that sandwich because you keep making yourself eat it every damn day. if your favorite M&M is the blue one, sometimes it's better to just grab a handful and be surprised rather than fishing out all the blue ones and leaving nothing to chance.

Woody said that, when he was on location for What's New, Pussycat?, he would go to the same restaurant and order the same thing every day. I'm the same way (without the talent). smile


Ahhhh, but if your order is, "Steak Diane, hold the steak" everyone will think you are exceptionally clever!
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