evenstar said:

And?????

mdiver said:

that leaves you alone?

Illustrator said:

It is hot to masturbate in front of your partner

Fauxie said:

EXACTLY

You said it my friend!!!!

evenstar said:

Then you have missed the spirit of what the quote means, on that premise wtf are you doing with Ben? You are gonna end up alone anyway so why bother?

shanti0608 said:

Hell


to



the



mf'in



yeah!

mdiver said:

make it stop!

mdiver said:

i don't totally agree with either extreme. i dunno.

benyamin said:

are you guys coming to stay anytime soon?

mdiver said:

let us work up to threesomes before foursomes! jeez!

evenstar said:

wuss

CarrieMpls said:

I guess it depends on the type of person that you are. It also depends on what your dreams, goals and hopes are for your life.
I know ppl that do better on their own because they have no desire to share their lives with another person.

I think the quote is just saying that if you find a person that is good for you then you can accomplish so much more together than you could alone.
Most things in life are better if you share them.
Granted if you share them with someone that you do not belong with then it can be torture.
At the end of the day we are all different and have different desires and needs. What works for one person may not work for another.
The quote reminds me of a couple that I spoke with on Sunday. They were at their great grand son's christening. They have been married since 1945 and she was telling me their story, how they met and how they ended up getting married. They went through so much at that time to be married and as she told me about the struggles they had due to her being from France but being raised in South Africa and him being English. During the entire story she would pause and look over at him and smile, he was hard of hearing and was too busy being fascinated with touching my hair, he had no clue what we were talking about. It amazed me that she was still so in love with him and had so many fond memories to tell me. Then it came full circle when it hit her, the reason she was sitting in this hotel talking to me, it was to celebrate her great grand son's life. A life that was created in part by the love she shares with her husband. A love that began so long ago and has lasted and grown stronger over time.
Neither one of them could have created a family and bitter sweet memories like that alone.
I feel blessed to have been touched by their love and beautiful life story.

shanti0608 said:

what a beautiful story

and 4 the record- i love phil's signature- u r one lucky lady

mdiver said:

Gotta say unlikely; Laurel's staying with me in London to maximise Ben funtimes.

prb said:

It was so inspiring to listen to their story. It can be scary to be in love and to know that one day you might lose that loved one. I used to let that keep me from being loved because I thought that one day I would have to lose it or let it go.
As I listening to her story it reminded me why you have to embrace it if you find it.

We have agreed upon saying "we" are lucky, but I still catch myself when I count my blessings saying I am lucky.
We could have given up a long time ago and given in to what others told us. Looking back now I am so glad that we made it through all of it and I look forward to sharing my life with him even more now.

mdiver said:

Then you're missing the point of us all being alone. It's not about why bother? Of course you'd still bother. Love is an amazing thing. Love isn't about just having someone around so you aren't alone.

shanti0608 said:

No, they couldn't have created those specific memories, but that's not to say she wouldn't have had just as great or better memories had her life gone down a different path. That's all I'm saying. Saying that we are all alone, that we are not "nothing" without a partner does not negate the awe-inspiring beauty of love and family. I'm not saying anyone is better off alone.
I'm simply saying you are not "nothing" if you don't have a partner. Whether that's a goal of yours or not.

CarrieMpls said:

I get what you are saying but I think you are taking the quote too literally.
Alone is good, I have been there done that. To each there own.. I had different experiences alone than I do when I am with the right person for me, which is the other part of the quote.
I think the quote is meant to be read as a whole, not picked apart.

You can be in a relationship and still be alone, been there and done that too.

It is all in what makes you happy inside.

mdiver has hurt me in the past. I elude to it in another thread.

Imago said:

shanti0608 said:

ok, back to the subject at hand: It sucks.

shanti0608 said:

And I get what the quote is getting at. I just take issue with how it is expressed.

I should also point out, the thread was in no way intended personally towards mdiver or you. Anyone can plainly see what you guys have is wonderful. I just noticed it and it struck me is all.

CarrieMpls said:

No offense taken. You have to know Mr Mdiver, he is extreme and so are his quotes.

CarrieMpls said:

JasmineFire said:

Agreed, as I said earlier, you can be with someone and still be alone.
That is worse than just being all alone.

JasmineFire said:

The quote is not about being alone,it is about being together, so we have gone full circle. The point of the quote is made. Of course love is not about having someone around, but the quote is about loving someone. Its a bit of a moot point to argue that one is missing the point about being alone when the quote is about the difference one feels when sharing a world with someone .

shanti0608 said:

x infinity on that one.

JasmineFire said:

Amen to that!

mdiver said:

Yeah, I agree with that,too. In fact, that's what I was trying to convey in my earlier post, albeit not quite so elegantly.

However, there are people who believe that if you're not in a relationship then you're less important. I can see where someone could read that into your signature even though that is not what your signature is saying.

JasmineFire said: