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Printableits terrible that children especially were witness to such tragedy, and that such a violent image is now theirs with which to grapple. yet at the same time that i feel badly for that aspect of the situation, im also saddened by the apparant lack of compassion for a life ended in such a desperate manner. no one knows the circumstances of the man who jumped, or his mental state or faculties at that moment --- yes, perhaps he was a thoroughly selfish, self-centered ass whom wanted to shock and horrify innocent bystanders, and who carefully chose this particular mode of death so to give one last dramatic, gore-filled hypothetical finger to the world. and perhaps he too, "hated people" and just didnt care how the end result of his public suicide would affect those seeing it.
then again, perhaps he only was a hopelessly distraught man with limited resources and longstanding mental or emotional issues leaving him with reasoning so skewed that choosing such a public way to commit suicide made "sense" to his twisted train of logic. deciding to end his life at all indicates he wasnt viewing life or reality through healthy perceptions. depression and mental illness are inherently selfish diseases; it seems unfair and shortsighted (to me) to blame this man for not using 'normal' cognitive reasoning regarding how his manner of death would affect others,or to posthumously chastise him for not being more 'considerate'. the above being said, neither would i want my own child to witness such obscene tragedy. its absolutely not right that innocence is destroyed suddenly like that, and in a perfect world it never would be. but we live in an increasingly violent society experiencing a steady rise in the incidence of depression and suicide. unfortunately, our children are going to sometimes be exposed to these grim realities far before they're ready...or before we're ready to (try to) explain it to them. fortunately, children are resiliant, as well as far wiser and more accepting than we often give them credit for. talking to them in a direct and honest way for their maturity level about each of the various angles of what happened at the mall might instill in them not only reassurance and some understanding, but also might plant the seeds for greater sensitivity towards those dealing with mental illness. this world is in desperate need of greater compassion and empathy for our fellow brothers and sisters, and maybe a small way to help achieve this is when terrible things occur such as this incident at the mall, we try to work past our initial anger at how we've been affected by it and instead disciss it with our children - and with each other - in a way which might increase awareness of one another's painand strggles...and in doing so, perhaps prevent such tragedies from ultimately taking place. | |
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WillyWonka said: its terrible that children especially were witness to such tragedy, and that such a violent image is now theirs with which to grapple. yet at the same time that i feel badly for that aspect of the situation, im also saddened by the apparant lack of compassion for a life ended in such a desperate manner. no one knows the circumstances of the man who jumped, or his mental state or faculties at that moment --- yes, perhaps he was a thoroughly selfish, self-centered ass whom wanted to shock and horrify innocent bystanders, and who carefully chose this particular mode of death so to give one last dramatic, gore-filled hypothetical finger to the world. and perhaps he too, "hated people" and just didnt care how the end result of his public suicide would affect those seeing it.
then again, perhaps he only was a hopelessly distraught man with limited resources and longstanding mental or emotional issues leaving him with reasoning so skewed that choosing such a public way to commit suicide made "sense" to his twisted train of logic. deciding to end his life at all indicates he wasnt viewing life or reality through healthy perceptions. depression and mental illness are inherently selfish diseases; it seems unfair and shortsighted (to me) to blame this man for not using 'normal' cognitive reasoning regarding how his manner of death would affect others,or to posthumously chastise him for not being more 'considerate'. the above being said, neither would i want my own child to witness such obscene tragedy. its absolutely not right that innocence is destroyed suddenly like that, and in a perfect world it never would be. but we live in an increasingly violent society experiencing a steady rise in the incidence of depression and suicide. unfortunately, our children are going to sometimes be exposed to these grim realities far before they're ready...or before we're ready to (try to) explain it to them. fortunately, children are resiliant, as well as far wiser and more accepting than we often give them credit for. talking to them in a direct and honest way for their maturity level about each of the various angles of what happened at the mall might instill in them not only reassurance and some understanding, but also might plant the seeds for greater sensitivity towards those dealing with mental illness. this world is in desperate need of greater compassion and empathy for our fellow brothers and sisters, and maybe a small way to help achieve this is when terrible things occur such as this incident at the mall, we try to work past our initial anger at how we've been affected by it and instead disciss it with our children - and with each other - in a way which might increase awareness of one another's painand strggles...and in doing so, perhaps prevent such tragedies from ultimately taking place.  | |
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WillyWonka said: its terrible that children especially were witness to such tragedy, and that such a violent image is now theirs with which to grapple. yet at the same time that i feel badly for that aspect of the situation, im also saddened by the apparant lack of compassion for a life ended in such a desperate manner. no one knows the circumstances of the man who jumped, or his mental state or faculties at that moment --- yes, perhaps he was a thoroughly selfish, self-centered ass whom wanted to shock and horrify innocent bystanders, and who carefully chose this particular mode of death so to give one last dramatic, gore-filled hypothetical finger to the world. and perhaps he too, "hated people" and just didnt care how the end result of his public suicide would affect those seeing it.
Very wise words Mr. Wonka.then again, perhaps he only was a hopelessly distraught man with limited resources and longstanding mental or emotional issues leaving him with reasoning so skewed that choosing such a public way to commit suicide made "sense" to his twisted train of logic. deciding to end his life at all indicates he wasnt viewing life or reality through healthy perceptions. depression and mental illness are inherently selfish diseases; it seems unfair and shortsighted (to me) to blame this man for not using 'normal' cognitive reasoning regarding how his manner of death would affect others,or to posthumously chastise him for not being more 'considerate'. the above being said, neither would i want my own child to witness such obscene tragedy. its absolutely not right that innocence is destroyed suddenly like that, and in a perfect world it never would be. but we live in an increasingly violent society experiencing a steady rise in the incidence of depression and suicide. unfortunately, our children are going to sometimes be exposed to these grim realities far before they're ready...or before we're ready to (try to) explain it to them. fortunately, children are resiliant, as well as far wiser and more accepting than we often give them credit for. talking to them in a direct and honest way for their maturity level about each of the various angles of what happened at the mall might instill in them not only reassurance and some understanding, but also might plant the seeds for greater sensitivity towards those dealing with mental illness. this world is in desperate need of greater compassion and empathy for our fellow brothers and sisters, and maybe a small way to help achieve this is when terrible things occur such as this incident at the mall, we try to work past our initial anger at how we've been affected by it and instead disciss it with our children - and with each other - in a way which might increase awareness of one another's painand strggles...and in doing so, perhaps prevent such tragedies from ultimately taking place. | |
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WillyWonka said: its terrible that children especially were witness to such tragedy, and that such a violent image is now theirs with which to grapple. yet at the same time that i feel badly for that aspect of the situation, im also saddened by the apparant lack of compassion for a life ended in such a desperate manner. no one knows the circumstances of the man who jumped, or his mental state or faculties at that moment --- yes, perhaps he was a thoroughly selfish, self-centered ass whom wanted to shock and horrify innocent bystanders, and who carefully chose this particular mode of death so to give one last dramatic, gore-filled hypothetical finger to the world. and perhaps he too, "hated people" and just didnt care how the end result of his public suicide would affect those seeing it.
then again, perhaps he only was a hopelessly distraught man with limited resources and longstanding mental or emotional issues leaving him with reasoning so skewed that choosing such a public way to commit suicide made "sense" to his twisted train of logic. deciding to end his life at all indicates he wasnt viewing life or reality through healthy perceptions. depression and mental illness are inherently selfish diseases; it seems unfair and shortsighted (to me) to blame this man for not using 'normal' cognitive reasoning regarding how his manner of death would affect others,or to posthumously chastise him for not being more 'considerate'. the above being said, neither would i want my own child to witness such obscene tragedy. its absolutely not right that innocence is destroyed suddenly like that, and in a perfect world it never would be. but we live in an increasingly violent society experiencing a steady rise in the incidence of depression and suicide. unfortunately, our children are going to sometimes be exposed to these grim realities far before they're ready...or before we're ready to (try to) explain it to them. fortunately, children are resiliant, as well as far wiser and more accepting than we often give them credit for. talking to them in a direct and honest way for their maturity level about each of the various angles of what happened at the mall might instill in them not only reassurance and some understanding, but also might plant the seeds for greater sensitivity towards those dealing with mental illness. this world is in desperate need of greater compassion and empathy for our fellow brothers and sisters, and maybe a small way to help achieve this is when terrible things occur such as this incident at the mall, we try to work past our initial anger at how we've been affected by it and instead disciss it with our children - and with each other - in a way which might increase awareness of one another's painand strggles...and in doing so, perhaps prevent such tragedies from ultimately taking place. Very well stated my friend..... | |
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i've always said if people really comprehended the impact of their suicide on those around them they wouldn't go through with it. but as willywonka so eloquently stated people in the depths of their pain can't see the full impact of their actions.
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and a  for willy She couldn't stop crying 'cause she knew he was gone to stay | |
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that person had to really be in pain to take it out on everyone in that way... | |
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im feel sad 4 the ppl that had to witness this tragic lose of life - no one should ever have to go through that
and sorry 4 the poor soul who thought that there was no other way .... 
sad all round  seems that i was busy doing something close to nothing, but different than the day before   | |
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How awful that he preferred death to life ...that things were so bad that he chose this
As for the guy taking pics...it disgusts me how little respect some have
Kenny, sorry your kids were there and that they, ur wife and yourself experienced that | |
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