Ok so this thread reached the intended and is a lot more fun in the direction it has gone!


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Long hard road,long hard story.....suffice to say that i have never been happier,more sure, more confident of my choices and my future.
Angels do exist.

mdiver said:

I get that!

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

Learning to look outside has a way of curing inside

I think one of the most important things you said was about learning to live honestly. It's HARD!

I'm just now learning (or trying to) how to do it. It is freeing though isn't it? Even though my divorce is sad and hurtful it is a relief to not be hiding my true self any longer. I was suffocating in that marriage. I was dying a little every day.

I know that sounds sooooo cheesy, but it's true.

hokie1 said:

Been there

mdiver said:

Thanks...



I still hate it for my two kids though...

hokie1 said:

Fallout sux...i was lucky in some ways that i didnt have to worry about that but i will say this. I dunno how low you got but for me it was out alive or out dead. Dead mommy is no good to them in a major fucked up way

hokie1 said:

My parents divorced when I was 12. Children want to see their parents happy and they are very intuitive and resilient.
As long as both of you can continue to be good parents to your children, they will be fine.


Best wishes to you..I know it is tough..been there as well

mdiver said:

Wow, I'm sorry about that. You're absolutely right. If it is a matter of life or death then you must choose life.

My soon to be ex is an excellent father. Always has been. We just aren't good together. It has affected me to the point of being severely unhealthy--mentally and physically.

So, while I do hate it that the boys won't have their dad in the same house I feel I had to do it for me. I think that a happy mom is a better mom. I hope when they are adults that they'll be able to understand why I made the choice I did.

Seems like you're in a much better relationship now.

hokie1 said:

And some....

hmm.


I have read and re-read this and will need to read it again tomorrow to fully respond. There's alot going on , and I think I know exactly where you are going with this. But being that I have had 2 hours of sleep in the last day, spent 5 hours on planes or at Airports, just ate a non-vegan turkey dinner, and am currently being repressed by the state of Alabama, my wits are weak.

And this thread deserves my full attention. It has too many colors and textures--sort of like Phil's cologne selection or sock drawer

Imago said:

ass

I think I'm currently somewhere around my personal Pleistocene epoch

Imago said:

His sock drawer is pretty black & white...mainly black , now his jewelry box filled with cuff links is pretty colourful I must admit....



Take care in Alabama...we have to visit Tennessee some time this year

Imago said:

I wish I knew you were coming to Birmingham! I live 2 hours from there.

mdiver said:

You KNOW you're one of my favorite purportedly straight male orgers here ever!!!

Imago said:

Alabama looks good on you

hokie1 said:

You, Dex,roodboi and I are going to tear the shit out of Atlanta soon honey!



Then you'll think twice about that signature!


I totally forgot. I'm actually doing alot of Mom/Dan bonding right now. She doesn't get much company so I'm having to do some extreme measures of motherly entertainment (we're going to do Tai Chi , watch the Sound of Music, and go shopping alot )

But it would be so uber cool to hookup and !!!

Imago said:

Not again !

Muse2NOPharaoh said:

It seems as though life is a work in progress. Just when we think we have it all figured out there is something that reminds us that we are still human, weak, vulnerable and alive.
For me, I still have so much to work on within myself, stuff from the past that I started to face but then got too scared.
I know that in my lifetime I may not get it all sorted out and there may be things that I never find the answers for.

I am trying to allow myself to live a little bit along the way, as I learn and grow, I also need to live, have fun and let myself feel loved..as hard as that might be for me some days.

shanti0608 said:

You have no idea how much

mdiver said:

Though I can be quite stubborn...

Serious said:

This time , we have pictures we took from Salzburg we can compare to the scenes n the movie. It adds a whole new angle to the viewing experience.



It's not happiness to see me now.

Imago said:

ATL is just over the mountians from here - 3 hrs ! and I have a best friend that lives right outside ATL I could see as well

just saying

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Imago said:

Mach said:

oh yes


I mean, hell yes!

hokie1 said:

YOU NAILED IT!

Im free! I guess admitting to my X that I was dying was the first and most painful step ever taken. ( My family didnt make that easy) After that, I took back on the honesty is the best policy process. I felt weight lift off my shoulders instantly.

I cant give a good damn what most anyone thinks of me. Fact is they haven't the power to send me to heaven nor hell and at the end of days, no one is gonna remember my mistakes nor likely my accomplishments.... that is so freeing. The first times I chose to reveal my sensitivities ( those things I thought would give others power over me to mock, taunt or as I thought, destroy me.... I discovered it was all good.) Ill never forget that. I don't give 2 thoughts to what others may or may not think of me based on my short comings and or my strengths. It also freed me not to judge others obvious short comings and let them be human too....


This said, it also is not a pass to be nothing/ try nothing. I feel free to excel and try and be the best person I can be without feeling the need to be false or pretentious.

Serious said:

Good God! i am going to have Carrie bring that with her so we can get this out of the way once and for all....


My name is Muse and I am less human because I haven't seen the sound of music!