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Reply #60 posted 01/09/08 9:02am

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WillyWonka said:

ive read that depp's singing is quite reminiscent of early david bowie.


i thought that too, though i don't know so much about early-era...i thought depp's singing sounded more like the croon bowie started to adopt after ziggy - the scott walker-esque sounding vocals.
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Reply #61 posted 01/09/08 9:53am

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Anxiety said:

WillyWonka said:

ive read that depp's singing is quite reminiscent of early david bowie.


i thought that too, though i don't know so much about early-era...i thought depp's singing sounded more like the croon bowie started to adopt after ziggy - the scott walker-esque sounding vocals.



Me too..for a moment I wondered..is it Depp or Bowie singing.
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Reply #62 posted 01/09/08 11:08am

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what did you hate so much about it when you saw it on broadway? i only ask because i really think the film version of 'sweeny todd' is very untraditional by musical theatre standards. most musical theatre makes me want to wretch, but after the first ten minutes or so of the burton film, i pretty much forgot they were singing the words. of course, i'd never seen the play and i wasn't familiar with the story, so there was a lot i was taking in.


That's exactly why I hated it. I don't mind musicals, even kind of like them; and I've gone to my fair share of them. I also knew it was a muscial going in so that wasn't the issue. The whole background of Sweeney's history & motivations are explained in the first song and I couldn't understand what they were saying/singing. It made the rest of the show really confusing because I didn't have the context except for what I knew on my own--which was basically, 'he's a barber that kills people & then they put 'em into food.'

Also, the performance I saw didn't have an orchestra, the actors played the instruments for all the songs while being on stage. And there were only 5 or 6 people, iirc. It was supposed to be this great avant-garde stage set and all minimal etc, but I just thought it made everything really confusing.

Maybe if I had been more familiar with the story I would have enjoyed the experimental nature of the staging, etc. more. Also, I guess I was expecting to be blown away by this great, legendary musical and was underwhelmed. (Kind of like when I saw Silence of the Lambs after hearing people rave about how great it was and was like, "eh.")

My 'date' left because he detests musicals, which I did not know when I invited him. I asked him why he even agreed to go, knowing that it was a musical and it was because the show had been getting so much attention in NYC that he wanted to see it. We got the tickets for free, and it was a sold out show that was close to the end of its run when we saw it, so I would have been crazy not to go--I mean, it was Patty Lapone! smile


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Reply #63 posted 01/09/08 11:13am

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DevotedPuppy said:

Anxiety said:


what did you hate so much about it when you saw it on broadway? i only ask because i really think the film version of 'sweeny todd' is very untraditional by musical theatre standards. most musical theatre makes me want to wretch, but after the first ten minutes or so of the burton film, i pretty much forgot they were singing the words. of course, i'd never seen the play and i wasn't familiar with the story, so there was a lot i was taking in.


That's exactly why I hated it. I don't mind musicals, even kind of like them; and I've gone to my fair share of them. I also knew it was a muscial going in so that wasn't the issue. The whole background of Sweeney's history & motivations are explained in the first song and I couldn't understand what they were saying/singing. It made the rest of the show really confusing because I didn't have the context except for what I knew on my own--which was basically, 'he's a barber that kills people & then they put 'em into food.'

Also, the performance I saw didn't have an orchestra, the actors played the instruments for all the songs while being on stage. And there were only 5 or 6 people, iirc. It was supposed to be this great avant-garde stage set and all minimal etc, but I just thought it made everything really confusing.

Maybe if I had been more familiar with the story I would have enjoyed the experimental nature of the staging, etc. more. Also, I guess I was expecting to be blown away by this great, legendary musical and was underwhelmed. (Kind of like when I saw Silence of the Lambs after hearing people rave about how great it was and was like, "eh.")

My 'date' left because he detests musicals, which I did not know when I invited him. I asked him why he even agreed to go, knowing that it was a musical and it was because the show had been getting so much attention in NYC that he wanted to see it. We got the tickets for free, and it was a sold out show that was close to the end of its run when we saw it, so I would have been crazy not to go--I mean, it was Patty Lapone! smile


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seems rude for your date to get up and leave in the middle confused
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Reply #64 posted 01/09/08 11:33am

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heartbeatocean said:


seems rude for your date to get up and leave in the middle confused


He was a rude person. We're no longer friends. lol

I would have left at intermission too, except I knew the person who gave me the tix would ask me how I liked the show and I didn't want to have to lie about it (as I wouldn't have seen how it ended).
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Reply #65 posted 01/09/08 4:10pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

Anxiety said:


what did you hate so much about it when you saw it on broadway? i only ask because i really think the film version of 'sweeny todd' is very untraditional by musical theatre standards. most musical theatre makes me want to wretch, but after the first ten minutes or so of the burton film, i pretty much forgot they were singing the words. of course, i'd never seen the play and i wasn't familiar with the story, so there was a lot i was taking in.


That's exactly why I hated it. I don't mind musicals, even kind of like them; and I've gone to my fair share of them. I also knew it was a muscial going in so that wasn't the issue. The whole background of Sweeney's history & motivations are explained in the first song and I couldn't understand what they were saying/singing. It made the rest of the show really confusing because I didn't have the context except for what I knew on my own--which was basically, 'he's a barber that kills people & then they put 'em into food.'

Also, the performance I saw didn't have an orchestra, the actors played the instruments for all the songs while being on stage. And there were only 5 or 6 people, iirc. It was supposed to be this great avant-garde stage set and all minimal etc, but I just thought it made everything really confusing.

Maybe if I had been more familiar with the story I would have enjoyed the experimental nature of the staging, etc. more. Also, I guess I was expecting to be blown away by this great, legendary musical and was underwhelmed. (Kind of like when I saw Silence of the Lambs after hearing people rave about how great it was and was like, "eh.")

My 'date' left because he detests musicals, which I did not know when I invited him. I asked him why he even agreed to go, knowing that it was a musical and it was because the show had been getting so much attention in NYC that he wanted to see it. We got the tickets for free, and it was a sold out show that was close to the end of its run when we saw it, so I would have been crazy not to go--I mean, it was Patty Lapone! smile


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What do you think of Tim Burton in general? If you like his style then you have to see the movie.
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Reply #66 posted 01/09/08 5:10pm

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sextonseven said:


What do you think of Tim Burton in general? If you like his style then you have to see the movie.


In general, I think I haven't seen that many of his movies. lol I've seen Edward Scissorhands, Batman, Batman Returns, Charlie & the Chocolate Factory & Sleepy Hollow. Out of those my least favorite was Sleepy Hollow, but I didn't *hate* it. I'll probably put Sweeney on my Netflix eventually...but right now I have no desire to see it. shrug
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Reply #67 posted 01/09/08 7:11pm

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I saw it the day after it came out ^_^
As a musical and johnny/tim fan --- it was perfect ^_^
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Reply #68 posted 01/10/08 12:50pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

sextonseven said:


What do you think of Tim Burton in general? If you like his style then you have to see the movie.


In general, I think I haven't seen that many of his movies. lol I've seen Edward Scissorhands, Batman, Batman Returns, Charlie & the Chocolate Factory & Sleepy Hollow. Out of those my least favorite was Sleepy Hollow, but I didn't *hate* it. I'll probably put Sweeney on my Netflix eventually...but right now I have no desire to see it. shrug


Ah well, then maybe you shouldn't see it. It's very Sleepy Hollow in terms of look. Throw in some demented musical numbers à la Corpse Bride and The Nightmare Before Christmas and that's Sweeney Todd.
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Reply #69 posted 01/14/08 6:47am

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You made the effort to see "Sweeney Todd"? Cool..

Yeah.. for Xmas, my husband gave me the dvd of the Broadway show. We watched it together, and wow.. My husband even had a comment or two! LOL The stage version FOR US, was so much more intense. Loved it--have always loved it.

I still say Johnny and Helen did a terrific job, so upon this we might disagree.

But nothing beats a Broadway show..
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GP.. I'm just happy you even were interested in seeing ST! Johnny's next role is going to be as John Dillanger(sp) in Public Enemies... I think! Wooo hooo!



Why in the world would it be surprising that I might see Sweeney Todd? Bizarre!


Why bizarre?

It's just I didn't think it would be appealing movie to you--from our discussions.. maybe due to the subject matter is nothing else. No biggie. I'm sure the subject matter probably doesn't appeal to a lot of people, plus the fact it's a musical.

BUT Congrats to Johnny and the cast for winning Golden Globes.

I think Johnny played a sort of an understated role in Chocolat. What's eating Gilbert Grape was one of his other more understated roles, too.Johnny Brasco was a real person role, too, right? There have been some others, but I'd have to look-up the movie titles. His next role is going to be as John Dillanger in the movie Public Enemies. He doesn't always play over the top characters. I just think those roles get him the most attention.
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