go the ducks! yaaay the duckies!

Please, I'm the one who stated it was parity in the other football thread and you followed along by responding to my post. It's still there. Once you understand how to comprehend what I've posted then you'll understand. The Chargers couldn't win a thing with that defense 20 years ago or now. Listen to Winslow, he was on the team, he knows.

Supernova said:

but I Broke down the Teams of the Past few years that won on the Werst Coast Offense that benifited from that Parity."Air Coryell" got His game under Paul brown back with the Bengals in the 70's&was running that style of Offense that has been Winning Super Bowls of the past 6 of 7 years without much Defense.

mistermaxxx said:

That's not exactly the case. The Charger offense was much more vertical in that they more times than not relied on long bombs from Fouts to his receivers. Montana was a percentage passer (unlike Fouts), i.e. short passes to his receivers and runners. It was extremely common that he'd throw a short 8-12 yard pass and either Rice or Taylor would run it 65-70 yards for a touchdown. THAT is not the same thing as the offense the Chargers were renowned for. Even if only a little different. Bill Walsh would tell you the same, and he's the guy credited TODAY for the so-called west coast offense. Credited.

Check the history of both teams and you'll see the finer points of the differences in their offense. They're there. And the most important thing you're dismissing (even if only in your mind) is that the Chargers never had a defense the equivalent of ANYONE who ever won a Super Bowl. As fabled as their offense was 20 years ago, their defense was equally as fabled for their inability to keep anyone from scoring. They never stopped anyone, they had to outscore their opponents, and that only takes you so far. Therein lies the difference.

"You see thats the problem nowadays, No loyalty, Just cheer for the winning team, All bad wageners!! just because Jerry rice, give me a break!!! I like alot of different players but that doesnt mean i like there team. Pick a team and stay with it!!! Chargers BABY!!!"


hey hey hey hey hey!
I've been an EAGLES fan since 86 & we've certainly had our share of disappointing games & seasons! My second favorite team is the Chargers, going back to the days of KELLEN WINSLOW, my all-time favorite TE (I have a SD Winslow jersey)..


lookahere:

the Rams (in my never-to-be-humble opinion) are (still) done for this season..

this "reconstituted" NFC East is about as weak as it's going to be..

the Pack just lost Favre for who knows how long..

the Saints are about due for a "reality check" (=loss)

if the Eagles don't go to the Super Bowl this year..
WHEN THE HELL ARE THEY GOING TO???


I am & have always been LOYAL to my favorite team(s), but sometimes I have more than 1 favorite team in the same sport, or I'll root for a team in a certain game..

but for me & the NFL, it's always:
1. EAGLES
2 Chargers

mltijchr said:

He's alright.

May be back in 2 weeks for the Monday nighter against Miami, if not then, he'll be back the week after that.

stupid edit
[This message was edited Tue Oct 22 12:32:30 PDT 2002 by feltbluish]

CHARGERS###111

Supernova said:

Walsh&Coryell both were under Paul Brown in Cincy back in the 70's same system different approach.I know the difference between both teams&have followed them.once again that Rams team that Won the Super Bowl was Weak.again you miss the spot: from the Packers winning until Finally that Ravens Team came along&Played Defense.the Packers,Broncos,suspect Defensive Teams Period.remember something else about the Chargers they couldn't win in the Cold.the lost too the Bengals.if you wanna go Football 101 with me feel free.My Cousin use too Play for the New york Giants maybe you heard of Him:Lawrence Taylor? you aren't dealing with a Rookie when it comes to X's&O's.the Rams had too Outscore there Opponents as well.like I said Before many Coaches&people around the League felt the Rams were a Pin-Ball&Junk Type of Team.

LaLaLAHeHEHE said:

C'mon the Chargers are better than that,There ain't 111 teams in the league.

mistermaxxx said:

No, I haven't. You just deviate from the spot ALL the time.


You tried your best.


Since you aren't your cousin that's got nada to do with anything. Just another example of deviating from the point.

Supernova said:

what you mean I tried My Best? talking about the West Coast offesense&Where it came from I brought it up.Don Coryell,Bill Walsh&Joe Gibbs were all under Paul Brown in Cincy.did you bring that Point up?Nope.again the Rams are a Great Example where you didn't need a Good Defense too Win a Championship but you still don't get it or see that point.Later

mistermaxxx said:

Predictable. Another deviation from my initial point, which had NOTHING to do with where it came from. You went from point A to point G (which I did follow a long a bit). You can't stay on topic to save your life. Which is why I lost interest and cut it short. Your shot at football 101 is noble and all, but you'd first have to have reading comprehension 101 if you want to hang with me, because the lack of comprehending my original point happens WAY too often.
[This message was edited Wed Oct 23 9:11:24 PDT 2002 by Supernova]

Supernova said:

I'll agree too say that we are both Strong with our Opinions.we are Both Right in Our Own Way.I'll stand behind what I said because the West Coast Offense has been the Standard for Teams Winning CHampionShips from the 49ers of 95,Packers of 97,98&99 Broncos all Associated with that Style.and I still feel that aside from the Ravens you haven't pointed out a Great or Even Really Good Defensive Team over the past 7 Years IMHO.those Chargers were they playing now in what goes for Football they would go too the Super Bowl easily Nowadays IMHO.the Game is very Offensive Minded&whatnot.but I ain't gotta explain that.I Played the game on a School Level,got Family in the Game&Whatnot&Have Studied the Game.truth be told I get tired of Us having all these Confrontations.So I'll Politely Bow from thsi Disscussion.

Dam, I didnt mean for this thread to last this long. the chargers won baby!!! we can move on to next week, oh but wait, the chargers have a buy, Dam so i have to wait a whole week before I can post that the chargers are going to kick the jets ass!!! Dam