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CarrieMpls

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so, I'm thinking of doing a clinical trial...

of a weight loss drug.

6 month program, you meet with a nutritionist up to twice a week, you get either the drug or a placebo and get paid $450 at the end of it.

BUT - looking up the drug, a couple of countries have banned it and there's a reason they keep going back for trials after it reached FDA approval in 1996.

Would you do it?? I can always bow out if it makes me feel yucky...
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Reply #1 posted 12/11/07 12:22pm

Imago

If it also extended the length of my penis it's a no brainer.


Otherwise, I would be weary.
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Reply #2 posted 12/11/07 12:24pm

JasmineFire

don't do it, it sounds scary.
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Reply #3 posted 12/11/07 12:24pm

CarrieMpls

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Imago said:

If it also extended the length of my penis it's a no brainer.


Otherwise, I would be weary.


My co-worker was all about it and wanted me to do it too. Then I started researching the drug and I'm not so sure now and showed her and she's not so sure now.

But it's $450!! That's a lot of money! With the possible side effect of losing a few pounds to boot.

But then, I won't even take cold medicine and rarely even take anything if I have a headache.
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Reply #4 posted 12/11/07 12:25pm

applekisses

CarrieMpls said:

Imago said:

If it also extended the length of my penis it's a no brainer.


Otherwise, I would be weary.


My co-worker was all about it and wanted me to do it too. Then I started researching the drug and I'm not so sure now and showed her and she's not so sure now.

But it's $450!! That's a lot of money! With the possible side effect of losing a few pounds to boot.

But then, I won't even take cold medicine and rarely even take anything if I have a headache.


What are the side effects?
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Reply #5 posted 12/11/07 12:28pm

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applekisses said:

CarrieMpls said:



My co-worker was all about it and wanted me to do it too. Then I started researching the drug and I'm not so sure now and showed her and she's not so sure now.

But it's $450!! That's a lot of money! With the possible side effect of losing a few pounds to boot.

But then, I won't even take cold medicine and rarely even take anything if I have a headache.


What are the side effects?


restlessness or tremor,

nervousness or anxiety,

mild headache or dizziness,

insomnia,

dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth, or

constipation.

I also saw on another website anorexia listed as a possible side effect, which is kinda odd, considering it mostly works as an appetite suppressant.
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Reply #6 posted 12/11/07 12:29pm

mdiver

Imago said:

If it also extended the length of my penis it's a no brainer.


Otherwise, I would be weary.


falloff You wish!
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Reply #7 posted 12/11/07 12:40pm

RodeoSchro

CarrieMpls said:

of a weight loss drug.

6 month program, you meet with a nutritionist up to twice a week, you get either the drug or a placebo and get paid $450 at the end of it.

BUT - looking up the drug, a couple of countries have banned it and there's a reason they keep going back for trials after it reached FDA approval in 1996.

Would you do it?? I can always bow out if it makes me feel yucky...


Hell no! At the very LEAST, check with a doctor before taking whatever this is. $450 can't be worth not knowing if you're screwing your body up or not.
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Reply #8 posted 12/11/07 12:40pm

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IMO, I think you look great. I think the best way to go about weight loss is through diet and excercise. It's slow, but it works and doesn't shock the body.

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Reply #9 posted 12/11/07 12:41pm

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RodeoSchro said:

CarrieMpls said:

of a weight loss drug.

6 month program, you meet with a nutritionist up to twice a week, you get either the drug or a placebo and get paid $450 at the end of it.

BUT - looking up the drug, a couple of countries have banned it and there's a reason they keep going back for trials after it reached FDA approval in 1996.

Would you do it?? I can always bow out if it makes me feel yucky...


Hell no! At the very LEAST, check with a doctor before taking whatever this is. $450 can't be worth not knowing if you're screwing your body up or not.


Doctors supervise the whole thing.
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Reply #10 posted 12/11/07 12:42pm

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CarrieMpls said:

applekisses said:



What are the side effects?


restlessness or tremor,

nervousness or anxiety,

mild headache or dizziness,

insomnia,

dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth, or

constipation.

I also saw on another website anorexia listed as a possible side effect, which is kinda odd, considering it mostly works as an appetite suppressant.


Those are pretty much the standard side effects of my of these new perscription meds.

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Reply #11 posted 12/11/07 12:42pm

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superspaceboy said:

IMO, I think you look great. I think the best way to go about weight loss is through diet and excercise. It's slow, but it works and doesn't shock the body.


I do too. I'm actually hoping I'd get the placebo, but it's free advice from a nutritionist twice a week and an exercise program is worked out for you and you get paid at the end.
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Reply #12 posted 12/11/07 12:43pm

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I have a good friend who works at San Francisco State who has warned me to never take a clinical trial, as you sign waivers and take full responsibility for medical bills or mishaps. They're clinical trials because they haven't been FDA-Approved yet.

He scared me out of it, which is a shame, because I like money. smile
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Reply #13 posted 12/11/07 12:44pm

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Oh and 450 isn't a lot of money if it messes you up. I am sure you will have to sign a waiver saying you can't sue in case of issues like brain damage. I am going a bit out there, but I really don't think it's a lot of money esp if something bad happens.

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Reply #14 posted 12/11/07 12:45pm

One4All4Ever

superspaceboy said:

IMO, I think you look great. I think the best way to go about weight loss is through diet and excercise. It's slow, but it works and doesn't shock the body.


there's a dude where I work (there are several, but I'm meaning that particular one) who lost 44kg in under a year merely by exercising and diet ... He looks like the grim reaper now disbelief
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Reply #15 posted 12/11/07 12:46pm

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CarrieMpls said:

superspaceboy said:

IMO, I think you look great. I think the best way to go about weight loss is through diet and excercise. It's slow, but it works and doesn't shock the body.


I do too. I'm actually hoping I'd get the placebo, but it's free advice from a nutritionist twice a week and an exercise program is worked out for you and you get paid at the end.


There is that. You can always quit it, I suppose. They aren't going to want you to have bad side effects and I am sure they will be monitoring all kinds of stuff. I just don't know if I would be a medical guinea pig.

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Reply #16 posted 12/11/07 12:46pm

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I guess it all depends on how well you tolerate speed lol Tremors is code for heart attack no? lol
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Reply #17 posted 12/11/07 12:49pm

Ace

I remember hearing about this on the radio a year or two ago (and I believe at least one of the participants has now developed cancer?):

Drugs trial victim 'left like Elephant Man'
LYNDSAY MOSS HEALTH CORRESPONDENT

FRIENDS and relatives of six men left seriously ill after a clinical drug trial went wrong yesterday spoke of their horror.

The girlfriend of one of the victims said he looked "like the Elephant Man" after he and the five other medical guinea pigs had a violent reaction to the drug on Monday.

One of two medical test volunteers who escaped unscathed after being given a placebo also described the horror of watching those given the real drug go "down like dominoes".

Two of the men remain critically ill and the other four are still in a "serious" condition in the intensive care unit of Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, north-west London, following the leukaemia treatment trial.

Fellow volunteer Raste Khan, 23, said: "First they began tearing their shirts off complaining of fever, then some screamed that their heads felt like they were going to explode.

"It was terrifying, because I kept expecting it to happen to me at any moment."

Last night the drugs company involved apologised to the families of the six men who developed potentially life-threatening side-effects while taking part in the trial.
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Reply #18 posted 12/11/07 12:55pm

veronikka

CarrieMpls said:

applekisses said:



What are the side effects?


restlessness or tremor,

nervousness or anxiety,

mild headache or dizziness,

insomnia,

dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth, or

constipation.

I also saw on another website anorexia listed as a possible side effect, which is kinda odd, considering it mostly works as an appetite suppressant.


omfg CONSTIPATION!!! that alone would make me not want to try this
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Reply #19 posted 12/11/07 12:57pm

shanti0608

INSATIABLE said:

I have a good friend who works at San Francisco State who has warned me to never take a clinical trial, as you sign waivers and take full responsibility for medical bills or mishaps. They're clinical trials because they haven't been FDA-Approved yet.

He scared me out of it, which is a shame, because I like money. smile


I worked for 2 clinical trial companies and many trials these days are looking at drugs that have already been FDA approved.
It is always good to do your research before entering a clinical trial.
If it is a phase III trial it is relatively safe.
You must remember that the list of side effects are "possible" side effects and everything you consume has a side effect if you think about it.
When you go in to the clinic they will give you a consent form to read before you sign anything. They should allow you to take a copy to your PCP to look over if you feel uncomfortable or unsure.
One benefit to going into a clinical trail, you will be seen by health care professionals. You will get blood work and all sorts of health checks before you are accepted into the program. You will be monitored on a regular basis, unlike when you go to the dr and he writes you a script and sends you on your way.
There are pro's and con's of coarse with taking any medications.
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Reply #20 posted 12/11/07 12:57pm

CarrieLee

Don't do it Carrie. You have no idea what's in it and what it will do to your body. I wish there would be exercise trials in stead of for drugs. This goes with weight loss, depression and anxiety. Too many drugs are being put out there that are not needed.
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Reply #21 posted 12/11/07 12:58pm

Mach

CarrieMpls said:

of a weight loss drug.

6 month program, you meet with a nutritionist up to twice a week, you get either the drug or a placebo and get paid $450 at the end of it.

BUT - looking up the drug, a couple of countries have banned it and there's a reason they keep going back for trials after it reached FDA approval in 1996.

Would you do it?? I can always bow out if it makes me feel yucky...



I'll pay you 100$ NOT to do it


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Reply #22 posted 12/11/07 12:58pm

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veronikka said:

CarrieMpls said:



restlessness or tremor,

nervousness or anxiety,

mild headache or dizziness,

insomnia,

dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth, or

constipation.

I also saw on another website anorexia listed as a possible side effect, which is kinda odd, considering it mostly works as an appetite suppressant.


omfg CONSTIPATION!!! that alone would make me not want to try this


Same here!! I didnt read the other stuff but constipation jumped out at me.

Dont do it Carrie,you'll be constipated and cranky
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Reply #23 posted 12/11/07 1:00pm

mdiver

ThreadCula said:

veronikka said:



omfg CONSTIPATION!!! that alone would make me not want to try this


Same here!! I didnt read the other stuff but constipation jumped out at me.

Dont do it Carrie,you'll be constipated and cranky


Its usually kinda the opposite falloff
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Reply #24 posted 12/11/07 1:00pm

Mach

shanti0608 said:

INSATIABLE said:

I have a good friend who works at San Francisco State who has warned me to never take a clinical trial, as you sign waivers and take full responsibility for medical bills or mishaps. They're clinical trials because they haven't been FDA-Approved yet.

He scared me out of it, which is a shame, because I like money. smile


I worked for 2 clinical trial companies and many trials these days are looking at drugs that have already been FDA approved.
It is always good to do your research before entering a clinical trial.
If it is a phase III trial it is relatively safe.
You must remember that the list of side effects are "possible" side effects and everything you consume has a side effect if you think about it.
When you go in to the clinic they will give you a consent form to read before you sign anything. They should allow you to take a copy to your PCP to look over if you feel uncomfortable or unsure.
One benefit to going into a clinical trail, you will be seen by health care professionals. You will get blood work and all sorts of health checks before you are accepted into the program. You will be monitored on a regular basis, unlike when you go to the dr and he writes you a script and sends you on your way.
There are pro's and con's of coarse with taking any medications.


Would you do what Carrie is thinking bout doing ? ( just wondering )
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Reply #25 posted 12/11/07 1:02pm

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Ace said:

I remember hearing about this on the radio a year or two ago (and I believe at least one of the participants has now developed cancer?):

Drugs trial victim 'left like Elephant Man'
LYNDSAY MOSS HEALTH CORRESPONDENT

FRIENDS and relatives of six men left seriously ill after a clinical drug trial went wrong yesterday spoke of their horror.

The girlfriend of one of the victims said he looked "like the Elephant Man" after he and the five other medical guinea pigs had a violent reaction to the drug on Monday.

One of two medical test volunteers who escaped unscathed after being given a placebo also described the horror of watching those given the real drug go "down like dominoes".

Two of the men remain critically ill and the other four are still in a "serious" condition in the intensive care unit of Northwick Park Hospital, Harrow, north-west London, following the leukaemia treatment trial.

Fellow volunteer Raste Khan, 23, said: "First they began tearing their shirts off complaining of fever, then some screamed that their heads felt like they were going to explode.

"It was terrifying, because I kept expecting it to happen to me at any moment."

Last night the drugs company involved apologised to the families of the six men who developed potentially life-threatening side-effects while taking part in the trial.


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Reply #26 posted 12/11/07 1:03pm

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I'd totally do it as long as it didn't mess with my heart (I have a heart condition).

I think that you asking if you should do it or not means you have some serious doubts and, taking that into account, I'd say don't do it.
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Reply #27 posted 12/11/07 1:04pm

veronikka

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veronikka said:



omfg CONSTIPATION!!! that alone would make me not want to try this


Same here!! I didnt read the other stuff but constipation jumped out at me.

Dont do it Carrie,you'll be constipated and cranky


I almost tried that new pill Alli but when I heard about these side effects, loose stools, too-frequent stools, uncontrollable bowel movements, or gas with an oily discharge. I was like no thank you!!! lol
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Reply #28 posted 12/11/07 1:05pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I guess it all depends on how well you tolerate speed lol Tremors is code for heart attack no? lol

See, that's the other thing. lol That's why I can't take cold medicines and I'm SUPER caffeine sensitive. If it had that effect on me, I'd quit immediately.

This drug has already been approved by the FDA, but I believe they are just testing a new method of distribution, as a nasal spray rather than in pill form.
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Reply #29 posted 12/11/07 1:07pm

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Mach said:

CarrieMpls said:

of a weight loss drug.

6 month program, you meet with a nutritionist up to twice a week, you get either the drug or a placebo and get paid $450 at the end of it.

BUT - looking up the drug, a couple of countries have banned it and there's a reason they keep going back for trials after it reached FDA approval in 1996.

Would you do it?? I can always bow out if it makes me feel yucky...



I'll pay you 100$ NOT to do it


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I'd never take your money, but the sentiment is duly noted.
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