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Reply #90 posted 10/18/02 7:50pm

POOK

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OK

NOW POOK ONLY SMALL MONKEY WITH SMALL BRAIN

BUT EVEN POOK KNOW THIS GUY TROLL!

NO REPLY AND MAYBE HE GO AWAY

PLUS

HE HAVE BOOBIES ON WEBSITE

P o o |/,
P o o |\
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Reply #91 posted 10/18/02 9:17pm

funkbible

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POOK said:


OK

NOW POOK ONLY SMALL MONKEY WITH SMALL BRAIN

BUT EVEN POOK KNOW THIS GUY TROLL!

NO REPLY AND MAYBE HE GO AWAY

PLUS

HE HAVE BOOBIES ON WEBSITE





Once again the master has spoken. All hail the mighty POOK and the mighty POOK boobies.



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Reply #92 posted 10/20/02 5:06pm

MrBliss

after looking at your profile pic, i decided you were obviously someone very important (here..have a duck ) so i thought i'd better listen to what it is you have to say.. i read all 55 questions, only to find one startling fact.. 55 questions and not one mention of ducks! how can u possibly expect people to take you seriously if you leave out these vital players? is this itself ..a conspiracy theory? i ask you sir.. duck
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Reply #93 posted 10/20/02 6:13pm

MrBliss

we're watching you mr soulpower sir, the dunks and i... we're watching you very closely indeed duck
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Reply #94 posted 10/20/02 6:44pm

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still waiting on that list soulpower wink
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Reply #95 posted 10/20/02 7:16pm

OCEANA

AaronForever said:

still waiting on that list soulpower wink

YOU? rolleyes...tell me about it...shrug...he disappeared!
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Reply #96 posted 10/20/02 7:23pm

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OCEANA said:

AaronForever said:

still waiting on that list soulpower wink

YOU? rolleyes...tell me about it...shrug...he disappeared!


Yep soulpower is another Internet tough guy. In real life he has probably never been in a real fight. Tuck your tail between your legs and run home to mommy soulpower!!!
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Reply #97 posted 10/20/02 8:33pm

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soulpower said:


1. Is it really a coincidence that the headquarters of the
9/11 terrorists was Florida, the center of hidden CIA
activity since the 1950s (from "Bay of the pigs"to "Iran- Contra-Affair")?


yes, it is a coincidence.

2. Why did President Bush jr order to halt the investigations on the Bin Laden clan in January 2001?


he didn't call a halt, per se. the old administration went out in Jan '01 and the new administration came in. in the interim, there would naturally be a reassessment of what projects are important and until that determination is made, things slip between the cracks.

3. Where did Navy-agent Delmart Vreeland get his information on possible terror attacks on the Pentagon and New York?


dunno. tell us

4. Is is true, that Vreeland has informed Canadian authorities already in May 2001 about details?


oh, was that your answer?

5. Why was the information provided by the FBI office Phoenix, Az from Juli 2001 disregarded?


one of the big stories of summer 2001 was what a mess the FBI was. that they could take part in such a conspiracy in the state they were in is laughable.

6. Who decided to not take any consequences out of that report?


go ahead

7. Why didnt the CIA react to the precise warnings issued by the israelian secret service Mossad?


because the israelis and the mossad are afraid of their own shadow. they have every reason to be, considering their situation. but if we reacted every time someone yelled BOO at them, then the world would be bitching at us for getting too involved there.

8. What information did President Bush really get in the CIA briefing on August 6th 2001 about the threat of Al Quaida members hijacking planes?


i suppose you, yourself, above all others, are privy to this info?

9. Why did the CIA not react to the warnings of August Hanning, head of the german secret servive BND, who knew that "terrorists from the middle east planned to hijack planes"?


terrorists in the middle east are always planning to hijack planes. 9/11 was something completely new in their m.o.

10. What was the purpose of the meeting between Christina Rocca of the state department of foreign affairs and Taliban-embassador Salam Zaeef in August 2001?


to order some burkas wholesale for the upcoming Haloween season?

11. Who decided to stop the investigations by CIA-special agent John O'Neill on Al Quaida cells in Saudi Arabia (he still is upset about that)?

12. Which diplomatic decisions were responsible that O'Neill, Americas most successful terrorist hunter, would be put out of power?

13. Who decided to offer O'Neill the job as the security advisor for the World Trade Center?


hmmm, wait, isn't this they guy that died in the WTC? how can he still be upset? and, um, if he knew so much before being the security advisor to the WTC, then how come he didn't tell them to close it down on 9/11?

14. Which investor bought put-options on America Airlines over the Alex Brown Bank before the attacks?


who? you know, your points would be more effective if you actually gave some info to back up these 'questions'

15. What was the purpose of the arrival of the two US battleship formations in the persian gulf right before September 11th?


to act in case India and Pakistan went crazy?

16. What was the purpose of operation "Swift Ford" in the persian gulf right before September 11th - the largest british troops movement (23 000) since the Falkland war?


oh, so the Brits are in on it too? considering how difficult it is to coordinate action within a subset of one beurocracy, let alone in 1 entire government, we're supposed to believe that 2 of them conspired in this? sure.

17. The "London Times" reports, that Salman Rushdie has been warned to fly to the US on September 3rd. Who issued that warning?


warned TO fly? like he was supposed to fly on the 3rd? or NOT fly on the 3rd?

18. Why did the Mossad warn Ariel Sharon to fly to New York on September 11th (he wanted to hold a speach in fron of the United Nations security council)?


again, i think you meant "NOT to fly." but until you clarify, you're making no sense.

19. Who has warned San Franciso's Mayor Brown to be careful traveling in the night of September 10th? (source: The San Francisco Chronicle)


his wife? girlfriend? mother?

20. Why have the travel plans of a group of high Pentagon officials for the morning of September 11th been suddenly cancelled for "security reasons"? (Source: Newsweek of September 24th)


because 2 planes were smashed into the WTC that day and all the planes in the country were grounded? pretty much everyone's flight plans that day were cancelled.

21. Why was the public not informed about those actions?


you're padding your number of questions here.

22. What was the reason of the visit of ISI-Head Ahmed in Washington DC on September 11th?


if he was showing up on 9/11, i don't see your point. it was already happening.

23. Why was a security meeting of the WTC-management originally scheduled for September 11th cancelled one day prior to the attacks?


dunno. you never had a business meeting cancelled?

24. When was Bush truly informed about the hit of the first plane into the WTC?


immediately after. he was on TV at a school moments after it happened.

25. Why did he later claim to have watched the first hit live on TV when it was never broadcasted live?


rolleyes the man is not good with words. in fact, he's an imbecile. you european conspiracy nuts give him more credit than he deserves. the man nearly died eating a pretzel.

26. Why did Bush, being informed about the second hit in a Florida classroom, remain calm instead of meeting with his security advisers right away?


because it's his job to be calm under pressure. and he was in the classroom when the first one hit. no one knew it was terrorism until the 2nd hit.

27. Why did Bush and his staff at the time not know what was already known to FAA and NORAD: that the planes have been hijacked?


why would they? so you're saying he DID know what was happening or that he DIDN'T know what was happening? you're all over the map here. you don't think the FAA and NORAD had their hands full with all of the sudden info coming into them, the conflicting reports?

28. Why was the NYFD from the very beginning aware that the crashes were the results of terrorist actions, while the President still acted like it was just an accident?


because everyone else in the country thought the same thing, but it's the president's job not to be an alarmist in the middle of a tragedy.

29. Can Nicholas Scopetta, head of the NYFD, explain why there were no people in the subway underneath the WTC?


because the work day had already started and there wasn't a train unloading? just a guess.

30. What is true about various media reports which claim that the hijackers have also bought return tickets for the days after September 11th?


what's your point? it's been reported that several of the hijackers didn't even know this would be a suicide mission. to appease the ones not in the know, wouldn't it make sense for the ringleaders to buy return tickets?

31. Why did the hijackers demand from the passengers to call their relatives?


to torture them? to get some early media coverage for their mission? what's your point?

32. Why was not a single "innocent" moslem aboard the hijacked planes?


because no innocent moslems had anywhere to go on those 4 planes that day? you're stretching now...

33. Why did Atta leave his bag at the airport and didnt take it with him on the plane?


um... because he wasn't going to need it? or perhaps so that he wouldn't be so quickly identified in the aftermath as having been a hijacker?

34. Why did Atta put a uniform, a testament and a video on how to fly planes in his bag, if he knew he was on a suicide mission?


because it's probably all he had. did you see how they were living in FL? plus, they'd left there, with probably little else, and he thought it a good idea to take a bag to the airport to make it look good. i mean, show up at an airport with no luggage and no return ticket and see how far you get.

35. Why did Atta leave his driving license in the rental car?


never left your wallet in your car?

36. Who called the White House at 9.30 on September 11th to warn about a possible attack?


dunno, who? and 9:30? i don't recall the timetable, but wasn't it already happening before 9:30?

37. After this call, why was their no airspace surveillance at the White House?


um, there is 24/7 airspace surveillance at the White House. in fact, it's ALWAYS a no-fly zone, and is constantly under watch. not to mention the anti-aircraft weaponry atop the house.

38. Who gave orders to evacuate the White House at 9.45?


whoever's in charge of giving orders to evacuate the White House when there's a threat, i imagine. your point?

39. Where was Donald Rumsfeld until he appeared at the Pentagon at 3.30 pm?


in hiding with everyone else. err

40. How can the strange route of Flight 93 be explained before it crashed in Pennsylvania?


um, there was a terrorist at the wheel?

41. Many people still dont believe that Flight 93 was shot down. But can those people explain why parts of that plane were spread over a space of miles?


um, sometimes when a plane is flying out of control, it breaks up in flight. err

42. Can James Roche, secretary of the Air Force, explain why air controllers insist in an article of the "Nashua Telegraph" a F-16 has been following Flight 93 in very close distance?


it is known that it was being tailed by a jet. wasn't shot down, though.

43. How could Rumsfeld have possibly known at 5.30 pm that the orginal targets of Flight 93 was the White House?


um... passengers who were told to call relatives passed the info on to them. you can be sure the FBI and other agencies were talking to those people. by 5:30, this info had been passed onto Rumsfeld. what's the problem here?

44. Andrews Air Force base was 13 miles far from the site. James Roche had over one hour and 15 minutes to react to the plane aiming at the pentagon. What happened in that time?


because they didn't know that one was going for the Pentagon? it was actually headed toward the White House (at which time no one knew that), but the White House is hard to see from the air so it went and flew into the Pentagon at the last minute.

45. Why wasnt the Pentagon-Plane stopped by a Jet of Andrews Air Force Base?


see answer to #45

46. Why did Bush say a week later, he had tried to shoot down that plane?


a source for that please

47. How could the identities of the terrorists been clear after only one day, if the CIA had no information as they claim?


flight rosters

48. How did they find their cars so quickly?


all the others were accounted for from the flight rosters. this IS the information age, after all. things happen quickly.

49. Where did the photographs of the 19 hijackers come from?


visas? department of motor vehicles? etc.

50. Why did they not find most of the "Black Boxes"?


same reason that the WTC towers fell. extreme heat. plus the weight of skyscrapers falling on them...

51. Why was the information of the Black Boxes they did find never publihsed?


the families of the flight 93 victims heard that one.

52. Why does the FBI refuse to publish the protocolls of the radio conversations?


because they don't have to? classified information and such.

53. Why do no pictures exist which show wreckage of a plane at the Pentagon crash site?


you could clearly see the plane wreckage in the Pentagon that evening/the next day

54. Why did George Bush disolve the Osama bin Laden task force in spring 2002 if bin Laden was still not found?


because they assumed he was 1) dead or 2) had no more power over his people or any meaningful form of communication with them.

55. Why has none of those questions above ever been asked in a special committee investigating the events of 9/11?


because there's no validity to them. so stop flattering yourself.
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Reply #98 posted 10/20/02 9:43pm

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[Snip. Flame removed. Ian]
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Reply #99 posted 10/21/02 4:15am

soulpower

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langebleu said:

soulpower said: you have sent people to the moon but you dont seem to be able to handle this one?
You are prepared to believe the moon-landing claim? That's shattered your credibility completely. smile



oh, you mean the moon that really was a studio in nevada? lol
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Reply #100 posted 10/21/02 4:22am

OCEANA

biggrin Oh there you are SoulPower wave..lol...I thought you were going to research my info about Langley and Andrews AFB and why there were no planes ready and on alert to AT LEAST protect The White House or Our President. If this was a conpiracy known by our government as you claimed.
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Reply #101 posted 10/21/02 4:22am

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IceNine said:


There is NO reason to answer any of your fucking stupid questions... now really, I don't hate you but I wish that you would fuck off of this site and join some anti-American group and bitch about America with them.

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[This message was edited Fri Oct 18 8:02:03 PDT 2002 by IceNine]


NO reason? I remember you starting a thread on how to debate... and how much you like to debate... but as soon you dont have a clue how to answer a simple list of questions, you call those very questions "fucking stupid" (if my questions are so "fucking stupid" you shouldnt have a problem answering them, or am I wrong?). Thank your for not hating me, since I havent done anything to you. Why should I "fuck off" this site? Its dedicated to a man who has even more "fucking stupid" questions than I do...
And besides, why do you still believe that I am Anti-American? Are you simply not smart enough to see that I am criticizing a government here? If you consider the Bush-administration and the American people identical, you are insulting a whole nation here, and thats "fucking stupid" (I am expressing myself here IceNine-style so you understand me).
sorry man, you have just done what I have expected from you: instead of debating this topic with me (which indeed is VERY provocative and controversial, it needs a good debate) you just insult the questioner and you dont contribute anything of value.
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Reply #102 posted 10/21/02 4:26am

soulpower

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LaVisHh said:

It is not fun to click on the forums and see constant reminders of 9/11, and other things that I stay away from the news sites to avoid.

I understand that the subjects you have brought up are what you want to discuss, and that is why we are all free to post threads...

SoulPower - these are trying times, and this country (whatever people feel towards it, and/or it's citizens) still mourns the attack that took place, regardless of whatever is going around about the who dunnit stuff.

Please, I am not posting to tell you to stop - just realize that not everyone wants a constant reminder of the ugliness of things we have no control over.

I choose to avoid religious, political, and other discussions where, I feel, there is no way for ME to know the truth. Everything written has had a couple of hearsay's attached to it, editor's, and controlled output - unless a person has seen it with his/her own eyes (and even the human eye has difficulty, court cases prove the human eye is NOT 100% accurate), I find it hard to believe.

In conclusion, it's just a never-ending circle, debating issues contrived from sources who got their info. from sources, who got their info from sources...sorta reminds me of the game where the first person whispers into the next person's ear...I went down to the river to get some water...and by the time it reaches the 20th person, it comes out as...I drink Tropicana...

I hope this comes across nice, as it is well-intended.

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Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace
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Reply #103 posted 10/21/02 4:29am

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IceNine said:

The main problem here is that soulpower is not informing anyone of anything...


So why dont you start informing us of something here? you are just complaining, having a big mouth, but you dont even answer any of those questions. you dont seem to get it bro: its simply QUESTIONS! I am not implying that Bush has ordered the attack of 9/11, I simply wanna know if indeed he knew that something was gonna happen. Isnt that all our right to know? and more: why dont YOU even wanna know?
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Reply #104 posted 10/21/02 4:35am

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:[quote]SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:[quote]I agree Aero, however this post is presented in such a way that someone who is not aware of Soulpowers relentless anti-american agenda might take his questions as bulleted points of fact.[\quote]

Soulpower said [quote]why do you still take this personal? I have made very clear many times that I am NOT Anti-American. You say you dont dig Bush, but you adapt his policy of "if you are not with me, you are against me".[\quote]

I'm not advocating a blind stance like Bush. It seems that all I ever see in your posts is the desire to turn American public opinion completely against our own government. I actually agree with some of your opinions and thoughts, however the questions in this post are leading. They are structured in such a way that it seems that you are citing information you've read or heard. All I'm asking is for you to provide the proof to back up your information.

Supa said:[quote]I am very unhappy that the Bush administration is running this country...Soulpower, think again next time you paint me as a Bush supporter.[\quote]


Soulpower said: [quote]you have made yourself very clear now. Thanks. but please think again next time when you paint me as an Anti-American. What I'm wondering: All the things you are saying above is deep conspiracy. and you believe its possible. so why are you getting so defensive about the questions I ask up there? you know what I think: you truly misunderstood me. I believe that if we all knew each other and had a REAL conversation, you, ICE, 2the9s, Max and myself, we would have a dope conversation.



It is obvious that we had MASSIVELY HUGE intelligence failures. I don't believe that the CIA, FBI or US Government were sitting on this information just allowing it to happen. I believe that the insane amout of bureaucracy prevented information from being examined, shared and dealt with in a propper manner. I also believe more in the fact that as a nation we were asleep at the wheel, never expecting such a vicious attack on our very own soil.

Surely there needs to be some culpability in the failures of the government in dealing with the intelligence they had but I would need more proof than just "questions" to lead me in the direction your heading.

No doubt if we were all face to face we would certainly have an incredible debate on ths subject. I don't have ill feelings towards you at all, actually your rather cute wink
[This message was edited Fri Oct 18 12:52:28 PDT 2002 by SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy]



No THIS is a response which is leading us somewhere (excluding the "cute"-remark, but thanx anyway). We hall share different opinions and backgrounds, and we all should have a right to compare them to get a better picture. I would love to give you my sources, but they wont do you much because most of the info I have collected from the research system of the German news magazine "DER SPIEGEL", the most reliable news source in my country. There hasnt been one big article on this, its many fragments I have put together to ask those questions. If somebody gives me answers, I would be very happy to read them. Its really not that I WANNA believe that Bush knew. Its the picture I currently have, anybody who can prove me wrong is welcomed to do so. I don not understand why some people consider this attitute "Anti-American". Then I'd be "Anti-german" as well, because I don not make differences in asking questions about governmental issues. Its not only my job, its my right and duty as a citizen.
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Reply #105 posted 10/21/02 4:42am

OCEANA

SoulPower...I just took a look at #53 and this question really pisses me off and really makes me have NO repect for you (as if you cared!) and what you claim you are and if you are in fact what you say you are you are PATHETIC...! I SEEN with my own eyes the Pentogon after the hit. The part of the pentagon that was hit stands right in front of the freeway..This was rush hour in DC at the time of the hit...MANY people were witness to this and what a terrible experience...HOW DARE YOU QUESTION "why were there no pictures"...what is your point...SoulPower I do not mean to be disrespectful but you need to go post at another country if ours is so bad! disbelief
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Reply #106 posted 10/21/02 4:45am

ian

soulpower said:

LaVisHh said:

It is not fun to click on the forums and see constant reminders of 9/11, and other things that I stay away from the news sites to avoid.

I understand that the subjects you have brought up are what you want to discuss, and that is why we are all free to post threads...

SoulPower - these are trying times, and this country (whatever people feel towards it, and/or it's citizens) still mourns the attack that took place, regardless of whatever is going around about the who dunnit stuff.

Please, I am not posting to tell you to stop - just realize that not everyone wants a constant reminder of the ugliness of things we have no control over.

I choose to avoid religious, political, and other discussions where, I feel, there is no way for ME to know the truth. Everything written has had a couple of hearsay's attached to it, editor's, and controlled output - unless a person has seen it with his/her own eyes (and even the human eye has difficulty, court cases prove the human eye is NOT 100% accurate), I find it hard to believe.

In conclusion, it's just a never-ending circle, debating issues contrived from sources who got their info. from sources, who got their info from sources...sorta reminds me of the game where the first person whispers into the next person's ear...I went down to the river to get some water...and by the time it reaches the 20th person, it comes out as...I drink Tropicana...

I hope this comes across nice, as it is well-intended.

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Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace


Well said soulpower.

For all the rest of you... if you wish to respond on this thread, keep the discussion about the topic at hand as opposed to attacking individuals please.

soulpower has as much right to post here as anyone else. if you disagree with the whole conspiracy thing then just disagree, and say why. Flaming people personally just discredits your own argument.

I'm no fan of silly conspiracy theories, but it's just discussion and there's no harm in talking about it if you want to. Follow the forum rules, or don't post.
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Reply #107 posted 10/21/02 4:46am

OCEANA

evil...Aaron!!! Aaron, sorry but I just HAVE to say this to you're responses above to SP... GO Aaron, Go Aaron, Go Aaron! biggrin
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Reply #108 posted 10/21/02 5:01am

OCEANA

ian said:

soulpower said:

LaVisHh said:

It is not fun to click on the forums and see constant reminders of 9/11, and other things that I stay away from the news sites to avoid.

I understand that the subjects you have brought up are what you want to discuss, and that is why we are all free to post threads...

SoulPower - these are trying times, and this country (whatever people feel towards it, and/or it's citizens) still mourns the attack that took place, regardless of whatever is going around about the who dunnit stuff.

Please, I am not posting to tell you to stop - just realize that not everyone wants a constant reminder of the ugliness of things we have no control over.

I choose to avoid religious, political, and other discussions where, I feel, there is no way for ME to know the truth. Everything written has had a couple of hearsay's attached to it, editor's, and controlled output - unless a person has seen it with his/her own eyes (and even the human eye has difficulty, court cases prove the human eye is NOT 100% accurate), I find it hard to believe.

In conclusion, it's just a never-ending circle, debating issues contrived from sources who got their info. from sources, who got their info from sources...sorta reminds me of the game where the first person whispers into the next person's ear...I went down to the river to get some water...and by the time it reaches the 20th person, it comes out as...I drink Tropicana...

I hope this comes across nice, as it is well-intended.

biggrin


Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace


Well said soulpower.

For all the rest of you... if you wish to respond on this thread, keep the discussion about the topic at hand as opposed to attacking individuals please.

soulpower has as much right to post here as anyone else. if you disagree with the whole conspiracy thing then just disagree, and say why. Flaming people personally just discredits your own argument.

I'm no fan of silly conspiracy theories, but it's just discussion and there's no harm in talking about it if you want to. Follow the forum rules, or don't post.
ian, no disrespect but you seem to follow SoulPower around as if you were his mommy/daddy always reminding orgers not to "ATTACK" him. And SoulPower, this DOES not look good on your part! ian let him back up what comes out of his mouth..let him fight his own battles...he responds to IceNine and Lavish who he and you might claim ATTACKED him..but he wont respond to Aaron or I who did not attack him but gave a couple answers, and requested a couple from back from him..himself (SP). {I know, clip, removed, OFF TOPIC}
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Reply #109 posted 10/21/02 5:10am

ian

OCEANA said:

ian said:

soulpower said:

LaVisHh said:

It is not fun to click on the forums and see constant reminders of 9/11, and other things that I stay away from the news sites to avoid.

I understand that the subjects you have brought up are what you want to discuss, and that is why we are all free to post threads...

SoulPower - these are trying times, and this country (whatever people feel towards it, and/or it's citizens) still mourns the attack that took place, regardless of whatever is going around about the who dunnit stuff.

Please, I am not posting to tell you to stop - just realize that not everyone wants a constant reminder of the ugliness of things we have no control over.

I choose to avoid religious, political, and other discussions where, I feel, there is no way for ME to know the truth. Everything written has had a couple of hearsay's attached to it, editor's, and controlled output - unless a person has seen it with his/her own eyes (and even the human eye has difficulty, court cases prove the human eye is NOT 100% accurate), I find it hard to believe.

In conclusion, it's just a never-ending circle, debating issues contrived from sources who got their info. from sources, who got their info from sources...sorta reminds me of the game where the first person whispers into the next person's ear...I went down to the river to get some water...and by the time it reaches the 20th person, it comes out as...I drink Tropicana...

I hope this comes across nice, as it is well-intended.

biggrin


Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace


Well said soulpower.

For all the rest of you... if you wish to respond on this thread, keep the discussion about the topic at hand as opposed to attacking individuals please.

soulpower has as much right to post here as anyone else. if you disagree with the whole conspiracy thing then just disagree, and say why. Flaming people personally just discredits your own argument.

I'm no fan of silly conspiracy theories, but it's just discussion and there's no harm in talking about it if you want to. Follow the forum rules, or don't post.
ian, no disrespect but you seem to follow SoulPower around as if you were his mommy/daddy always reminding orgers not to "ATTACK" him. And SoulPower, this DOES not look good on your part! ian let him back up what comes out of his mouth..let him fight his own battles...he responds to IceNine and Lavish who he and you might claim ATTACKED him..but he wont respond to Aaron or I who did not attack him but gave a couple answers, and requested a couple from back from him..himself (SP). {I know, clip, removed, OFF TOPIC}


I'm not arguing his points for him, because I don't necessarily agree with them. I'm just here to stop you villagers with your torches from burning the place down. If you disagree with someone on the Org, flaming that person and attacking them personally is not the way to handle it.

I'm staying out of the discussion and the arguments - I'm just here to enforce the rules smile In fairness OCEANA, you are the one posting stuff saying "Go Aaron!" or "Yeah I agree! Me too!" which seems like you are on a bit of a witch hunt.

If you want to discuss, then discuss. Just lose the flames. Intelligent people are capable of disagreeing with each other without need to resort to petty insults and name calling.
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Reply #110 posted 10/21/02 5:19am

OCEANA

ian said:

OCEANA said:

ian said:

soulpower said:

LaVisHh said:

It is not fun to click on the forums and see constant reminders of 9/11, and other things that I stay away from the news sites to avoid.

I understand that the subjects you have brought up are what you want to discuss, and that is why we are all free to post threads...

SoulPower - these are trying times, and this country (whatever people feel towards it, and/or it's citizens) still mourns the attack that took place, regardless of whatever is going around about the who dunnit stuff.

Please, I am not posting to tell you to stop - just realize that not everyone wants a constant reminder of the ugliness of things we have no control over.

I choose to avoid religious, political, and other discussions where, I feel, there is no way for ME to know the truth. Everything written has had a couple of hearsay's attached to it, editor's, and controlled output - unless a person has seen it with his/her own eyes (and even the human eye has difficulty, court cases prove the human eye is NOT 100% accurate), I find it hard to believe.

In conclusion, it's just a never-ending circle, debating issues contrived from sources who got their info. from sources, who got their info from sources...sorta reminds me of the game where the first person whispers into the next person's ear...I went down to the river to get some water...and by the time it reaches the 20th person, it comes out as...I drink Tropicana...

I hope this comes across nice, as it is well-intended.

biggrin


Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace


Well said soulpower.

For all the rest of you... if you wish to respond on this thread, keep the discussion about the topic at hand as opposed to attacking individuals please.

soulpower has as much right to post here as anyone else. if you disagree with the whole conspiracy thing then just disagree, and say why. Flaming people personally just discredits your own argument.

I'm no fan of silly conspiracy theories, but it's just discussion and there's no harm in talking about it if you want to. Follow the forum rules, or don't post.
ian, no disrespect but you seem to follow SoulPower around as if you were his mommy/daddy always reminding orgers not to "ATTACK" him. And SoulPower, this DOES not look good on your part! ian let him back up what comes out of his mouth..let him fight his own battles...he responds to IceNine and Lavish who he and you might claim ATTACKED him..but he wont respond to Aaron or I who did not attack him but gave a couple answers, and requested a couple from back from him..himself (SP). {I know, clip, removed, OFF TOPIC}


I'm not arguing his points for him, because I don't necessarily agree with them. I'm just here to stop you villagers with your torches from burning the place down. If you disagree with someone on the Org, flaming that person and attacking them personally is not the way to handle it.

I'm staying out of the discussion and the arguments - I'm just here to enforce the rules smile In fairness OCEANA, you are the one posting stuff saying "Go Aaron!" or "Yeah I agree! Me too!" which seems like you are on a bit of a witch hunt.

If you want to discuss, then discuss. Just lose the flames. Intelligent people are capable of disagreeing with each other without need to resort to petty insults and name calling.

lol. Go Aaron and "I agree too" are not insults or attacks...and if seen as this omg...SORRY! I did not mean to hurt anybodies feelings rolleyes...Hey "witch hunt?" sad SP seems more like the one on a U.S witch hunt...but ian...LOL to "another thread bites the dust" lol. ..
[This message was edited Mon Oct 21 5:41:02 PDT 2002 by OCEANA]
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Reply #111 posted 10/21/02 5:38am

Neversin

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soulpower said:


2. Why did President Bush jr order to halt the investigations on the Bin Laden clan in January 2001?

So he could give Osama Bin Laden and other friends the time and space to contemplate and act out a terrorist attack...
This was all for his new American hero act, just so the American voters would stop talking and forget about the corrupt elections and put Bush jr. in a bad spotlight...

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Reply #112 posted 10/21/02 5:47am

LaVisHh

soulpower said:

Lav, I appreciate your honesty. However, it was your choice to read this thread. It was posted in the GD forum and clearly marked as a "9-11"-thread. So if you avoid those topics because of personal reasons you can choose to simply not read it. I consider the topic very important and yes, I feel sorry for the loss of lives on 9/11, but I do feel sorry for the innocent who will die in the upcoming war.
peace


peace
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Reply #113 posted 10/21/02 6:02am

ian

No offence intended OCEANA. I just want people to quit the flaming and focus on the discussion at hand.
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Reply #114 posted 10/21/02 6:18am

OCEANA

ian said:

No offence intended OCEANA. I just want people to quit the flaming and focus on the discussion at hand.
No offence taken biggrin...But "villagers,torches"? omg...For a minute there I imagined myself on gilligans Island.sad...and I hated gilligan, always screwing up something to get off that island. Anyway its cool...peace
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Reply #115 posted 10/21/02 6:25am

Aerogram

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I reiterate my offer to be flamed in lieu of the object of your displeasure. Go ahead... I'm wearing my flame-retardant chaps.
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Reply #116 posted 10/21/02 6:43am

DavidEye

Wow,I'm really diggin' this thread! I always love a good,juicy debate.
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Reply #117 posted 10/21/02 6:48am

IceNine

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soulpower said:

IceNine said:


There is NO reason to answer any of your fucking stupid questions... now really, I don't hate you but I wish that you would fuck off of this site and join some anti-American group and bitch about America with them.

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[This message was edited Fri Oct 18 8:02:03 PDT 2002 by IceNine]


NO reason? I remember you starting a thread on how to debate... and how much you like to debate... but as soon you dont have a clue how to answer a simple list of questions, you call those very questions "fucking stupid" (if my questions are so "fucking stupid" you shouldnt have a problem answering them, or am I wrong?). Thank your for not hating me, since I havent done anything to you. Why should I "fuck off" this site? Its dedicated to a man who has even more "fucking stupid" questions than I do...
And besides, why do you still believe that I am Anti-American? Are you simply not smart enough to see that I am criticizing a government here? If you consider the Bush-administration and the American people identical, you are insulting a whole nation here, and thats "fucking stupid" (I am expressing myself here IceNine-style so you understand me).
sorry man, you have just done what I have expected from you: instead of debating this topic with me (which indeed is VERY provocative and controversial, it needs a good debate) you just insult the questioner and you dont contribute anything of value.


I would be glad to debate if the topic wasn't a typical "soulpower" anti-American load of rubbish. Your questions are not worth answering and they are meaningless.

I find you tedious and boring.

I will not insult you again, but let it be known that I question your motivations in what you do here and I believe that you are doing nothing other than aggravating people for fun.

If your opinions are so important, I don't understand why you haven't been contacted by at least ONE major government in the world in hopes of getting you to join them and share your brilliance.

In short, you are boring and tedious.
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Reply #118 posted 10/21/02 7:14am

4LOVE

Save Today rolleyes
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Reply #119 posted 10/21/02 8:01am

purplelu

I have one question...anyone ever see the movie
"Wag the Dog"??? wink
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