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Thread started 11/02/07 10:17am

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HEROES

How are you folks enjoying this season? I'm a little Meh about a lot of it. I like the Sylar plot line and the Monica one. But I do find the stories a bit thin. Especially with the new paintings, which don't seem that onimous as last years did. And Hiro needs to get back into the action..serial!

Oh and this shot...inhibitor thingy. Surprised it's not Green and called something that starts with the letter P.




HEROES was supposed to have a mini season spin off during the holidays called Origins. Each episode was to be stand alone but tied into the Heroes mythos. The Audience would get to vote on which hero they wanted to join the cast of Heroes. This project was akin to the Office getting 30 episodes instead of a normal 23/24 for the season.

Plenty of rumors aboud as to why this might be. The Writers strike is one reason apparently. The huge drop in viewers this season could be another factor.
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Reply #1 posted 11/02/07 1:44pm

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sigh No one watches Heroes anymore? Dang! You all used to have weekly threads!

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Reply #2 posted 11/02/07 1:52pm

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I still watch. Even though the stories have become a little "different" I'm still enjoying the show very much.

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Reply #3 posted 11/02/07 2:10pm

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I thought the last 15 minutes of Monday's episode finally put the series into motion, we at least have an inkling as to what the writers have planned. Virus running a mock, millions dead, NYC evacuated.

Also I read that the Spin Off was put on hold cause of the writers strike. I'll try to find the link later and post it.

I agree thus far the storylines have been rather boring and listless, but according to Kring everything is being set up for the latter episodes.

He said the payoff will be worth the slow beginning.
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Reply #4 posted 11/02/07 2:27pm

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Reply #5 posted 11/02/07 2:27pm

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I really don't understand this virus thing. It's supposed to affect those with powers...so how can it effect millions? Also they are pointing to that the virus IS the thing that gives people powers? Something.

Not sure how this will pay off. I was reading that towards the middle of the season another chapter closes? I thought each season was a chapter.

It'll be interesting to see where this all goes. I was a little miffed with Suresh destroying the vials and saying he's getting Molly out of there, yet in the next scene he's still there petting her hair.

The "offical word" is Writers Strike for shelving Origins, which is probably the best thing to do considering. Though there is speculation that the drop off in viewers is partly the reason as well.

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Reply #6 posted 11/02/07 2:28pm

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It took me awhile to watch this season's episodes because I wanted to rewatch last season on DVD before starting season two. Hiro's story is getting old. I feel it's a momentum killer whenever the story flashes back to the 1600s. Maybe the other plotlines don't seem like they are dragging to me because I watched them all in the last ten days. shrug
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Reply #7 posted 11/02/07 2:33pm

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superspaceboy said:

I really don't understand this virus thing. It's supposed to affect those with powers...so how can it effect millions? Also they are pointing to that the virus IS the thing that gives people powers? Something.


My impression is that this virus thing is exactly the same as the old Legacy virus story from the X-Men books. It's a virus that attacks the special gene that gives the Heroes their abilities. That's why they are the only ones susceptible right now. But left unchecked the virus will mutate and begin to attack normal people too which leads to the future scenario of 93% of the population dying.

That's my guess.
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Reply #8 posted 11/02/07 2:51pm

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sextonseven said:

It took me awhile to watch this season's episodes because I wanted to rewatch last season on DVD before starting season two. Hiro's story is getting old. I feel it's a momentum killer whenever the story flashes back to the 1600s. Maybe the other plotlines don't seem like they are dragging to me because I watched them all in the last ten days. shrug


Agreed. I like the Hiro story, but it's sooooo disconnected with the rest that it just doesn't work. They either need to connect it in somehow or lose it altogether and get him back in the game.
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Reply #9 posted 11/02/07 3:02pm

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I'm completely new to Heroes and trying to catch up. eek

I haven't seen all of Season 1 yet boxed so watching Season 2 is a little confuse

lol Really like the show though. My hubby however, does not, so he always talks to me when I'm tryin' to watch evil

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Reply #10 posted 11/02/07 3:07pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

I'm completely new to Heroes and trying to catch up. eek

I haven't seen all of Season 1 yet boxed so watching Season 2 is a little confuse

lol Really like the show though. My hubby however, does not, so he always talks to me when I'm tryin' to watch evil

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you should see Season one. It would help you understand each persons power.

FOr instance Sylar could absorb other powers by eating their brain and he had many powers. What's going on is that each time Maya uses her ability,esp when he's around he sucks up a little bit and will eventually have that power. Not sure why he's not able to accuire them like he did before. We also don't know what his agenda is (if any) other than being bad.

Another one you are proably wondering about is Peter, who also absorbs adn duplicates others powere within him. He also has many powers but doesn't know it due to his amnesia.

Most of the others you can pretty much guess.

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Reply #11 posted 11/02/07 3:14pm

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superspaceboy said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

I'm completely new to Heroes and trying to catch up. eek

I haven't seen all of Season 1 yet boxed so watching Season 2 is a little confuse

lol Really like the show though. My hubby however, does not, so he always talks to me when I'm tryin' to watch evil

rose


you should see Season one. It would help you understand each persons power.

FOr instance Sylar could absorb other powers by eating their brain and he had many powers. What's going on is that each time Maya uses her ability,esp when he's around he sucks up a little bit and will eventually have that power. Not sure why he's not able to accuire them like he did before. We also don't know what his agenda is (if any) other than being bad.

Another one you are proably wondering about is Peter, who also absorbs adn duplicates others powere within him. He also has many powers but doesn't know it due to his amnesia.

Most of the others you can pretty much guess.


Isn't Sylar too injured from being stabbed by Hiro at the end of season one to access his powers? That's what Candice said before he killed her, no? I think he would still have to open Maya's brain and take the part that controls her powers into himself (however he does it) in order to use it.
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Reply #12 posted 11/02/07 3:31pm

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That Sylar is a bad, baaaaad man!! eek

I've been able to keep up overall, but I know I'm missing the finer points.

I watched a bit of a Heroes Marathon on a Direct tv channel, so I'm not completely lost.

I need to break down and buy Season 1 but $44??? Dayum!

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Reply #13 posted 11/02/07 3:34pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

That Sylar is a bad, baaaaad man!! eek

I've been able to keep up overall, but I know I'm missing the finer points.

I watched a bit of a Heroes Marathon on a Direct tv channel, so I'm not completely lost.

I need to break down and buy Season 1 but $44??? Dayum!

lol


Best Buy had it on sale for the first week for $36 I think. I bought it then. One of the extras is a nice interview with Wendy and Lisa about creating the music.
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Reply #14 posted 11/02/07 3:36pm

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sextonseven said:

superspaceboy said:



you should see Season one. It would help you understand each persons power.

FOr instance Sylar could absorb other powers by eating their brain and he had many powers. What's going on is that each time Maya uses her ability,esp when he's around he sucks up a little bit and will eventually have that power. Not sure why he's not able to accuire them like he did before. We also don't know what his agenda is (if any) other than being bad.

Another one you are proably wondering about is Peter, who also absorbs adn duplicates others powere within him. He also has many powers but doesn't know it due to his amnesia.

Most of the others you can pretty much guess.


Isn't Sylar too injured from being stabbed by Hiro at the end of season one to access his powers? That's what Candice said before he killed her, no? I think he would still have to open Maya's brain and take the part that controls her powers into himself (however he does it) in order to use it.


I thought that her ability will help him regain his and everytime she uses her power he grows stronger. They really keep these abilities ambiguous on purpose. It's a bit frustrating.

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Reply #15 posted 11/02/07 3:38pm

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sextonseven said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

That Sylar is a bad, baaaaad man!! eek

I've been able to keep up overall, but I know I'm missing the finer points.

I watched a bit of a Heroes Marathon on a Direct tv channel, so I'm not completely lost.

I need to break down and buy Season 1 but $44??? Dayum!

lol


Best Buy had it on sale for the first week for $36 I think. I bought it then. One of the extras is a nice interview with Wendy and Lisa about creating the music.


eek mad sad We haven't gotten our S1 yet. That would be a nice bonus. But I have to agree...get these things when they come out! You will save anywhere from $10-20 depending.

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Reply #16 posted 11/02/07 3:44pm

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I'll have to look this weekend!

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Reply #17 posted 11/02/07 3:47pm

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superspaceboy said:

sextonseven said:



Isn't Sylar too injured from being stabbed by Hiro at the end of season one to access his powers? That's what Candice said before he killed her, no? I think he would still have to open Maya's brain and take the part that controls her powers into himself (however he does it) in order to use it.


I thought that her ability will help him regain his and everytime she uses her power he grows stronger. They really keep these abilities ambiguous on purpose. It's a bit frustrating.



I kinda thought that Syler had been vaccinated prior to him waking up in the shed, I also thought that Syler was on an island after he killed the woman who was taking care of him. I swear they did a pan out and showed water surrounding the land, but I could be wrong. The vaccination is just my guess, or the sword has some sort of power to disarm others. That could be where the whole Hiro storyline is going.
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Reply #18 posted 11/02/07 3:51pm

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lazycrockett said:

superspaceboy said:



I thought that her ability will help him regain his and everytime she uses her power he grows stronger. They really keep these abilities ambiguous on purpose. It's a bit frustrating.



I kinda thought that Syler had been vaccinated prior to him waking up in the shed, I also thought that Syler was on an island after he killed the woman who was taking care of him. I swear they did a pan out and showed water surrounding the land, but I could be wrong. The vaccination is just my guess, or the sword has some sort of power to disarm others. That could be where the whole Hiro storyline is going.


I saw Sylar was in a remote cabin surrounded by lots of trees. Not sure if it was on an island. How he got from there to Mexico is a mystery. Candice had said that she could help Sylar access his power again before he killed her.

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Reply #19 posted 11/03/07 7:11am

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Looks like it's getting weird like "Lost" did. confused
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Reply #20 posted 11/03/07 5:10pm

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I love watching Heros.
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Reply #21 posted 11/04/07 7:39pm

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I'm watching. But I'm a little "eh" on it as well. It's okay, but it's just kind of dull. But I'm having to remind myself that it took several episodes of season 1 before I was hooked. Plus I watched that one for the first time on DVD, so maybe that has something to do with it.


They need to explain the Mexican boy's/girl's powers a little better. Like wtf they are and how they work. And this business with Hiro in the past is predictable and pretty damn boring.

Having "the Company" be the Big Bad for the season is a little bit boring as well, but maybe things are changing in that regard.

And wow, the X-Men ripping-off is getting even more obvious this season with the whole "Cure" thing (we've seen that pop up a few times in comics) and the disease that could infect all of the Heroes and possibly the regular population (the ill-advised Legacy Virus plot, anyone?).

So far I'm kind of bored by all of the storylines. But I'm reserving judgement until we get into sweeps and see what they can cook up.

PS: I thought Origins was supposed to run at the END of the season (like April and May) while the main show ran without any re-run breaks for an entire season. Of course the latter part may change depending on how long the writers' strike lasts, but I don't think Origins was scheduled to air during the holidays.
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Reply #22 posted 11/04/07 10:47pm

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BREAKING NEWS: THIS JUST IN!!!!!


http://community.tvguide....00026358?d


Strike Fallout: Heroes Prepping Season Finale!

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Milo Ventimiglia in Heroes by Justin Lubin/NBC Photo
Heroes' second season may be coming to a close a lot sooner than expected due to the forthcoming apocalypse, also known in some circles as the damn writers' strike.

Sources confirm that the show is going back and shooting an alternate ending to the Dec. 3 episode that, if used, would allow the episode to function as a season finale in the event of a strike. Originally, the episode was only supposed to serve as the conclusion of the current "Generations" arc. Should an 11th-hour agreement be reached and a strike averted (fingers crossed!), the alt ending would likely be scrapped.

In related news, the reality of this whole thing is only now hitting me. And I'm not happy.


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Reply #23 posted 11/05/07 7:33am

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We're only in the middle of the first season here in Denmark. Episode 13 airs on Thursday. biggrin

So far I like it. Some of the episodes have been better than others. Nothing too exciting. biggrin
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Reply #24 posted 11/05/07 7:42am

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I'm a little bored with it. The season finale last year was so bad and illogical that it really turned me off. I'm not into it this year the way I was last season.

When the twins just happened to run across Sylar in the road in Mexico, I had a huge eye roll. The Hiro storyline is a giant bore and I don't care if Kenzei does tie in to what is going on in the present. It's not interesting.

Overall, there are too many characters, too many boring plotlines, too many blatant thefts from X-Men and other comics (but the creators swear they've never read a comic book in their lives), and too many coincidences that they'll probably never explain. It's too bad, because it really was a great show.
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Reply #25 posted 11/05/07 9:21am

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lazycrockett said:

superspaceboy said:



I thought that her ability will help him regain his and everytime she uses her power he grows stronger. They really keep these abilities ambiguous on purpose. It's a bit frustrating.



I kinda thought that Syler had been vaccinated prior to him waking up in the shed, I also thought that Syler was on an island after he killed the woman who was taking care of him. I swear they did a pan out and showed water surrounding the land, but I could be wrong. The vaccination is just my guess, or the sword has some sort of power to disarm others. That could be where the whole Hiro storyline is going.


I think that the illusion of him being on an island and then showing the audience where he really was sort of confused folks. My take is that he was in the Jungle in Mexico (do they have jungles?) or somewhere near there. It obviously opened out to a road. But yeah, I thought he was on an island too.

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Reply #26 posted 11/05/07 9:34am

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Raze said:

I'm watching. But I'm a little "eh" on it as well. It's okay, but it's just kind of dull. But I'm having to remind myself that it took several episodes of season 1 before I was hooked. Plus I watched that one for the first time on DVD, so maybe that has something to do with it.


They need to explain the Mexican boy's/girl's powers a little better. Like wtf they are and how they work. And this business with Hiro in the past is predictable and pretty damn boring.

Having "the Company" be the Big Bad for the season is a little bit boring as well, but maybe things are changing in that regard.

And wow, the X-Men ripping-off is getting even more obvious this season with the whole "Cure" thing (we've seen that pop up a few times in comics) and the disease that could infect all of the Heroes and possibly the regular population (the ill-advised Legacy Virus plot, anyone?).

So far I'm kind of bored by all of the storylines. But I'm reserving judgement until we get into sweeps and see what they can cook up.

PS: I thought Origins was supposed to run at the END of the season (like April and May) while the main show ran without any re-run breaks for an entire season. Of course the latter part may change depending on how long the writers' strike lasts, but I don't think Origins was scheduled to air during the holidays.


They need to explain the Mexican boy's/girl's powers a little better. Like wtf they are and how they work.
+++IMO, they keep these powers "secret" so that they can slowly reveal them as plot points. A big question whenever we see a new character is "Do they have a power? and WHat is it?" They purposefully keep things vauge so that they can write around the power and never get caught in a corner with it. You may notice some characters find little twists in their powers...or extra abilities with the ones they have. IMO it's a double edge sword. I like the guessing part but the full reveal never happens because the character doesn't completely know their ability. It's also a little writing trick so that writers can write a plot around a nuance in the power.

And wow, the X-Men ripping-off is getting even more obvious this season...
+++I get that too. I also have been finding blatent rips from another show called the 4400 (little girl can see visions), the shot (an inhibitor) amongst other things. I am trying now to separate the 2 in my mind. Though what makes that show a bit different, is that it eventually comes down to people with abilities vs those that don't have them (and those that want them) vs society/government who is leary of random abilities showing up in someone like a Sylar that might use their ability for personal gain.

I thought Origins was supposed to run at the END of the season

Origins was to run during the "dead zone" -during the Holiday time...End of Nov - Beg of January. while Heores and all of the other shows (except the office which got a 30 episode season this year) breaked.

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Reply #27 posted 11/05/07 12:25pm

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I like it put it's getting out of hand with all the sub-titels you have to read now (spanish/japaneses/russian) I now they are trying to make it global but shit.
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Reply #28 posted 11/05/07 12:50pm

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I'm still enjoying it, but I don't feel that there's been as many "reveals" as there were in the first series. What few reveals there have been seem either contrived or predictable.

I'm bored of Hiro - let alone the Hiro-in-the-past storyline. I'm also bored of Peter. I don't believe either Hiro's or Peter's characters. In fact, they're more like caricatures (of a wide-eyed Japanese tourist and rich-kid-rebelling against their family respectively).

The most believable characters remain Claire and her father. They're basically carrying the show.

Of the rest, Nathan, Micah and Mrs. Pettrelli hold my interest more than Mohinder, Matt and Nikki.

Sylar is still a totally two-dimensional baddie - but I'll let him off because he's so lovely.
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