the movie THE HISTORY BOYS.





I know that it was a play before but I only got to see the movie. I absolutely loved it. Am I a twat for liking it? I'll stick to my guns but I'm really curious about what other people think.

I fell in love with Dominic Cooper, center with the helmet and the guy to the far left.

Any Americans love this movie?
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Thanks bro

Its by Alan Bennett.....no more comment needed , that guy is a genius

Why the Scots, Welsh, Irish bias?

Number23 said:

Good evening Billy

mdiver said:

Ca I ask why you're proud to be English? I'm not being cheeky. I really want to know.

Number23 said:

It is the land of my birth,the land of my forefathers, the land my grandfathers fought for and one of my great grandfathers died for. The land that i have grown to love despite spending many years away from here, the place i call home and the place where my roots are buried.

I am English to my core, proud of such. I identify as English and yet love the diversity and beauty of the UK. I basically get the best of it all.

mdiver said:

Cheers. Don't you think that's maybe just colloqualism on a grand scale? Where do we draw the line? Where one is drawn on a map? Who wrote the map? Who decided what and where? What committee? Who gave them authority? Why were these boundaries necessary? It's funny. Scotland was actually attached to New Zealand several million years ago and it attached itself to the mass that is now Wales & England a few million years later. That is difference - I'm not denying it. Soil and landscape - completely different. However, this means someone somewhere sometime recognised the join and made it territory - which is, in turn, defining something to be defended. Which, in turn, defines the sickening loop our species has continued ad will continue to repeat for millenia if we survive. In my opinion. I, personally - and no offence intended - can;t see the point of patriotism. I don't know everyone. I don't know those who fought the Nazis. I don't know who fought the Vikings. I don't know who will fight the Chinese (joke). I hear people who talk with pride of their family home, their street, their village, their town, their country....when the Zetis attack it'll be our planet. It's a sickening realisation whe you realise the only thing that'll being us all together watching each other's backs as brothers ans siters is an alien attack. Which is several zillion times more likely to happen than the return of some magical Messiah to lead us all into the light.

Number23 said:

I guess for me i try not to draw a line. I love our countries..all of em, i have travelled extensively for work and fun, but home for me is home...England and despite its flaws i love it. I am not what you would call fiercly patriotic but i am ENGLISH. My family have been pretty involved in the defence of our country so maybe i take that more to heart than others, it has always been a part of me although i have never served.
Having said that i am so not the "hate the scots (insert other country here) type" in fact it pisses me off the rivalry over stuff like footie or rugby, i mean i will support England but i woul dhave love the other home nations to do well (unlike some others i could mention)

I guess bottom line is i was born in Kent, I am English. Not British, not european...so please refer to me as such...yanno?

Number23 said:

I get some of what you are saying. I never understood the patriotism back in the US. It seemed really strange to me that ppl were still going around waving their confederate flags.

People scare me. A person, fine. I can deal with anybody one on one. However, mindsets spread like a virus in gangs. I guess I just think countries are an invention of a hateful, insecure, defensive collective mindset. I understand communities - i just dolt think countries exist in any shape or form. If I don't know everyone personally and respect all their opinions, I don't want to be part of their gang. It seems people feel better about their prejudices when they're shared. That's how you get political parties. And don't get me started on that. Anyway, what the fuck was this thread about?

Number23 said:

I can dig what you feel my friend.

There's something a bit cardigan, pipe and slippers about it which puts me off seeing it. I admire Alan Bennett though. His 'Talking Heads' are a work of art.

I remember seeing the preview for this when I was in Sheffield, actually.

I planned to see it but somehow forgot along the way. Will have to check it out.

CarrieMpls said:

Yeah, I wondered where I saw it too. I don't think you said to me you wanted to see it as I would have belted you out of the auditorium.

I'm watching it now.
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JDInteractive said:

If you'd have belted me out of the auditorium, I'd have thumbed my nose at you in protest.

CarrieMpls said:

What's this, Shakespeare hour?

JDInteractive said:

No, just nose-thumbing hour.

CarrieMpls said:

We give rods in England.

JDInteractive said:

As long as you don't give pantaloons, I think you're ok.

CarrieMpls said:

We used to wear those back in the oldern days.

JDInteractive said:

During Shakespeare hour?

CarrieMpls said:

Every night was a Shakey night.

mdiver said:

Can I refer to you as "the hairy-handed gent, who ran amok in Kent"?

Ahhhwooooo, Werewolves of London.

Man, I love that song.

matthewgrant said:

good movie.
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If a movie has both BLUE MONDAY and THIS CHARMING MAN on the soundtrack, it's gotta be good.