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Reply #30 posted 12/01/07 10:53pm

Lammastide

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Adult circumcision is being touted in African nations as one of the means to reduce the risk of contracting HIV. But, while health agencies there have endorsed the practice, I have yet to hear a clear explanation of how it's beneficial. shrug

At any rate, here's an article, just in time for World AIDS Day.






Reporter Gets Circumcised to Fight AIDS


By JOSEPH J. SCHATZ – 18 hours ago

LUSAKA, Zambia (AP) — A southern African radio correspondent has been receiving a flood of text messages and cell phone calls — some from offended listeners and readers.

All because Kennedy Gondwe chose to get circumcised to protect himself from AIDS, and took the British Broadcasting Corp.'s radio and Web audience through the procedure with him Friday.

A study published in the Lancet medical journal in February concluded that the findings of three major trials — in Kenya, South Africa and Uganda — show that circumcision can significantly reduce men's chances of contracting the virus that causes AIDS. U.N. health agencies followed up with an endorsement, but stressed that the procedure offers only partial protection and that abstinence, condom use, having few partners and delaying the first sexual experience are all among the steps that need to be encouraged.

Frank talk about AIDS and prevention methods, is still rare in Gondwe's Zambia, where HIV prevalence is 16 percent. That's what made the 27-year-old Gondwe's public testimony Friday, the eve of World AIDS Day, even more striking.

A prominent Zambian journalist, Mildred Mpundu, died in November after going public with her HIV-positive status earlier this year and urging her fellow journalists to get tested.

Gondwe, who says he undergoes an AIDS test several times a year, said in an interview Friday he finds it "sad" that more people don't talk about circumcision as a prevention method.

"We as journalists also have a role to play in the fight against the disease," he said.

Gondwe, on the radio piece and in an online diary Friday, recounts his Nov. 22 procedure. Listeners can hear him gasp as a doctor injects him with a local anesthetic, but he assures them the procedure is otherwise painless. He was up, walking to his car and driving himself home soon afterward.

Dr. Jan van den Ende, a microbiologist at Toga Laboratory, which provides AIDS testing and counseling in neighboring South Africa, the country hardest hit by AIDS, said it was not entirely clear why circumcision provides the protection it does. He described it as a relatively simple and painless procedure, something Gondwe's story demonstrated.

While one admiring Web reader from Zambia told Gondwe he would soon follow his example, the reporter said others told him they were offended. Gondwe's Tumbuka people of Zambia's Northern Province do not embrace circumcision, he said.

David Alnwick, a senior AIDS adviser to UNICEF based in Nairobi, said UNICEF supports educating people that "circumcised men are relatively well protected against HIV." But he said there was a danger of creating demand that the world's poorest continent is not now prepared to meet.

Alnwick said Zambia has a long waiting list of men who want to be circumcised and only a few centers providing the service. But he says he expects governments to come aboard across the continent and international donors to provide funding.
[Edited 12/1/07 7:07am]

The stuff I've read suggests the interior tissue of the foreskin may be particularly susceptible to certain viral infections. It's undetermined yet.

The speculations are based in part on at least one latitudinal study conducted on two groups of sub-Saharan African men -- same age, same SES level, same local circumstances. The only difference: The first was circumcised; the second was not. When the groups were assessed after several years, HIV infection rates were markedly higher among the uncircumcised men. (I'll try to find that study online.)

I've nothing against the notion circumcision curbs infection, etc., but it'd be great to see the study controlled for extraneous factors like religious/ethical inclinations of the subjects, reported sexual activity before and after the study, drug use, the reception of local women to the circumcised men, etc.

It's a fascinating and heartening find.
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Ὅσον ζῇς φαίνου
μηδὲν ὅλως σὺ λυποῦ
πρὸς ὀλίγον ἐστὶ τὸ ζῆν
τὸ τέλος ὁ χρόνος ἀπαιτεῖ.”
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Reply #31 posted 12/01/07 11:49pm

iloveannie

I've had my banjo string cut after a hasty fuck. It had ripped so the doc said let's cut it off. Thick black stitches in your peeneewotwot hurt.

My mate had his removed as it was too tight. It really hampered his fun for quite a few years.

I also have a PA. That didn't really hurt at all.
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Reply #32 posted 12/02/07 12:01am

Volitan

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iloveannie said:

I've had my banjo string cut after a hasty fuck. It had ripped so the doc said let's cut it off.


Doesn't it heal up???

I always thought circumcision was pointless. Only 4 girls have seen/know I'm uncut. The two girls who first saw it didn't really seem to mind. The one girl didn't know what it was and was like whofarted, and the other girl was like "He's just uncirumcised" shrug My girlfriend saw it, she doesn't seem to care. The only girl who seems to care is a female friend. She's never seen it, and she wants to. She's always askin' me to show it to her, blah, blah. She's always making jokes about it like it's a bad thing shrug
Maybe we can go to the movies and cry together
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Reply #33 posted 12/02/07 2:18am

One4All4Ever

It's cold outside, why would I leave home without my coat on ?
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Reply #34 posted 12/02/07 5:40am

FarrahMoan

One4All4Ever said:

It's cold outside, why would I leave home without my coat on ?

True, true. Makin' a valid point, here.....
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Reply #35 posted 12/02/07 6:26am

HamsterHuey

Imago said:

Circumcised penises


Penii, Dan, penii.
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Reply #36 posted 12/02/07 6:29am

HamsterHuey

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.
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Reply #37 posted 12/02/07 6:47am

Imago

HamsterHuey said:

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.

The real question is... Did it look cosmetically less appealing to you?

I know women here in the states that only like circumcised peni , so I think cultural bias plays a huge role in their tastes.
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Reply #38 posted 12/02/07 6:48am

FarrahMoan

HamsterHuey said:

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.


neutral
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Reply #39 posted 12/02/07 7:07am

Serious

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FarrahMoan said:

HamsterHuey said:

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.


neutral

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With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #40 posted 12/02/07 7:17am

FarrahMoan

Hamster treated me like a boob. sad But, I'm nice, otherwise.
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Reply #41 posted 12/02/07 10:00am

HamsterHuey

FarrahMoan said:

Hamster treated me like a boob. sad But, I'm nice, otherwise.


Nono. I did not. I just stated the fact.

Farrah made me think of;



And seeing long hair in your avvie made me think; WOMAN.

With guitar. I thought you were one hell of an aggressive chick (I mean; I read your posts)

Hehehe.

But now I have seen your profile pic I know you are a cool dude. Awright? Better now?
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Reply #42 posted 12/02/07 10:02am

JoeTyler

I did it when I was 7,... medical reasons, of course lol
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Reply #43 posted 12/02/07 10:04am

heybaby

Leave the noodle alone.
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Reply #44 posted 12/02/07 10:57am

One4All4Ever

HamsterHuey said:

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.



jij had beter moeten weten ...
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Reply #45 posted 12/02/07 12:45pm

FarrahMoan

One4All4Ever said:

HamsterHuey said:

And dayum, I thought Farahmoan and One4All4Ever were girls, damnit. Wassup with men with girl avatars. Or long hair avatars. In small avvies that translates as GIRL.

So.

And in Europe it is the other way around; most guys are uncut. I remember my first American; freaked me out.



jij had beter moeten weten ...


Touj snoggen booter schnoozique..
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Reply #46 posted 12/02/07 12:47pm

One4All4Ever

FarrahMoan said:

One4All4Ever said:




jij had beter moeten weten ...


Touj snoggen booter schnoozique..


I'm sorry ... my French sucks ...
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Reply #47 posted 12/02/07 12:49pm

FarrahMoan

One4All4Ever said:

FarrahMoan said:



Touj snoggen booter schnoozique..


I'm sorry ... my French sucks ...


Vous et tre belle
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Reply #48 posted 12/02/07 12:51pm

One4All4Ever

FarrahMoan said:

One4All4Ever said:



I'm sorry ... my French sucks ...


Vous et tre belle


That avvie is not me boxed
The message is on the shirt sad
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Reply #49 posted 12/02/07 12:57pm

FarrahMoan

One4All4Ever said:

FarrahMoan said:



Vous et tre belle


That avvie is not me boxed
The message is on the shirt sad


My bad, sir mister.
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Reply #50 posted 12/02/07 3:28pm

FuNkeNsteiN

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FarrahMoan said:

One4All4Ever said:



I'm sorry ... my French sucks ...


Vous et tre belle

'Vous êtes très belle'
wink
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

- Lammastide
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Reply #51 posted 12/02/07 3:53pm

Cinnie

FuNkeNsteiN said:

FarrahMoan said:



Vous et tre belle

'Vous êtes très belle'
wink


Do NOT quote Prince lyrics on the org. no no no!
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Reply #52 posted 12/02/07 4:11pm

FarrahMoan

FuNkeNsteiN said:

FarrahMoan said:



Vous et tre belle

'Vous êtes très belle'
wink

Oh, yeah! Thanks! lol "Mr. Lovaman!!! SHABBA!!!"
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Reply #53 posted 12/02/07 4:47pm

CalhounSq

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iloveannie said:

I've had my banjo string cut after a hasty fuck. It had ripped...


Okay, I don't even have a dick & I'm cringing over here omfg shake boxed
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Reply #54 posted 12/02/07 5:01pm

Imago

FuNkeNsteiN said:

FarrahMoan said:



Vous et tre belle

'Vous êtes très belle'
wink

oh sure, brag about language skills. Americans can learn German too you know rolleyes
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Reply #55 posted 12/02/07 7:08pm

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iloveannie said:

I've had my banjo string cut after a hasty fuck. It had ripped so the doc said let's cut it off. Thick black stitches in your peeneewotwot hurt.

My mate had his removed as it was too tight. It really hampered his fun for quite a few years.

I also have a PA. That didn't really hurt at all.

eek

Did you at least finish?
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #56 posted 12/03/07 4:10am

iloveannie

bboy87 said:

iloveannie said:

I've had my banjo string cut after a hasty fuck. It had ripped so the doc said let's cut it off. Thick black stitches in your peeneewotwot hurt.

My mate had his removed as it was too tight. It really hampered his fun for quite a few years.

I also have a PA. That didn't really hurt at all.

eek

Did you at least finish?


Fuck yeah! I'm not mad!
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Reply #57 posted 12/03/07 7:42am

bboy87

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iloveannie said:

bboy87 said:


eek

Did you at least finish?


Fuck yeah! I'm not mad!

falloff

but weren't you in pain?! eek
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Reply #58 posted 12/03/07 7:50am

VoicesCarry

No, I'd never consider it.
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Reply #59 posted 12/03/07 7:54am

Cloudbuster

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I've had it done twice.
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