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Reply #30 posted 11/29/07 5:19am

Mach

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been on the brink of suicide


Yes - I was 17 ( I had been gang raped and ended up pregnant )

put myself in the hospital for 5 days and a few months of assisted mental health healing
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Reply #31 posted 11/29/07 5:22am

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Mach said:

Whitnail said:

been on the brink of suicide


Yes - I was 17 ( I had been gang raped and ended up pregnant )

put myself in the hospital for 5 days and a few months of assisted mental health healing


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Reply #32 posted 11/29/07 5:23am

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MoniGram said:

Very deep subject...and yes when I was younger I did think of suicide. For many reasons, to many to go into on a forum site. But some how I got past them, and I am here today!

I have also had suicide around me, and have seen what it can do to others around that person. My son, who is 14 now, had two of his friends committ suicide coming on 2 yrs ago. One hung himself, a month before school let out, and the other, well she shot herself in the head, one month after his other friend hung himself. So within a month, my son lost two of his friends to suicide. sad

The thought of suicide is a subject that should NEVER be taken lightly. Even if you feel the person talking about it wouldn't actually go thru with it.



wow, dont mean that to sound like we are in a competition, but that is rough what you say, I hope your son is ok, he is about the age i was when i first witnessed it, it is a very strange situation to be in, no answers, no reasons, simply just happens. last summer my neighbours cousin hung himself, when that happened, i knew nothing of it, and walked past my neighbour and friend, coz i had other so-called important problems, but the next day i met him and then they told me, i just stood there shell shocked, as my brothers best friends wifes brother had died as well, at the merry age of 35, with 2 kids and another on the way, ever since, this neighbour has a connection to me, i am one of the few people he talks about this to. maybe becoz his cousin and i have a song that we both love/loved "Where is my mind" the Pixies

life is strange
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Reply #33 posted 11/29/07 5:35am

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Mach said:

Whitnail said:

been on the brink of suicide


Yes - I was 17 ( I had been gang raped and ended up pregnant )

put myself in the hospital for 5 days and a few months of assisted mental health healing


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Reply #34 posted 11/29/07 5:38am

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Whitnail said:

MoniGram said:

Very deep subject...and yes when I was younger I did think of suicide. For many reasons, to many to go into on a forum site. But some how I got past them, and I am here today!

I have also had suicide around me, and have seen what it can do to others around that person. My son, who is 14 now, had two of his friends committ suicide coming on 2 yrs ago. One hung himself, a month before school let out, and the other, well she shot herself in the head, one month after his other friend hung himself. So within a month, my son lost two of his friends to suicide. sad

The thought of suicide is a subject that should NEVER be taken lightly. Even if you feel the person talking about it wouldn't actually go thru with it.



wow, dont mean that to sound like we are in a competition, but that is rough what you say, I hope your son is ok, he is about the age i was when i first witnessed it, it is a very strange situation to be in, no answers, no reasons, simply just happens. last summer my neighbours cousin hung himself, when that happened, i knew nothing of it, and walked past my neighbour and friend, coz i had other so-called important problems, but the next day i met him and then they told me, i just stood there shell shocked, as my brothers best friends wifes brother had died as well, at the merry age of 35, with 2 kids and another on the way, ever since, this neighbour has a connection to me, i am one of the few people he talks about this to. maybe becoz his cousin and i have a song that we both love/loved "Where is my mind" the Pixies

life is strange


My son is fine, thank you! After a few of us parents spoke up, they set up a group for the friends of these kids, and they meet once a week so they can talk about their feelings. After both suicides happened, his father and I let our son know that we were there for him if he needed anything. We kept those lines open.
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Reply #35 posted 11/29/07 5:44am

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Mach said:

Whitnail said:

been on the brink of suicide


Yes - I was 17 ( I had been gang raped and ended up pregnant )

put myself in the hospital for 5 days and a few months of assisted mental health healing



and you were saying you have a bigger porn collection wink

To be honest i have no other way of replying to that, only to say that i have had a very similiar experience, and i am not sure if it is something i could talk about here, but your courage to mention it is amazing, no more words

peace
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Reply #36 posted 11/29/07 5:47am

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MoniGram said:

Whitnail said:




wow, dont mean that to sound like we are in a competition, but that is rough what you say, I hope your son is ok, he is about the age i was when i first witnessed it, it is a very strange situation to be in, no answers, no reasons, simply just happens. last summer my neighbours cousin hung himself, when that happened, i knew nothing of it, and walked past my neighbour and friend, coz i had other so-called important problems, but the next day i met him and then they told me, i just stood there shell shocked, as my brothers best friends wifes brother had died as well, at the merry age of 35, with 2 kids and another on the way, ever since, this neighbour has a connection to me, i am one of the few people he talks about this to. maybe becoz his cousin and i have a song that we both love/loved "Where is my mind" the Pixies

life is strange


My son is fine, thank you! After a few of us parents spoke up, they set up a group for the friends of these kids, and they meet once a week so they can talk about their feelings. After both suicides happened, his father and I let our son know that we were there for him if he needed anything. We kept those lines open.


that is so important, i can not stress that enough, let your children know you are there, no matter what it is, the door should always be open

that is the highest priority of a parent

be there
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Reply #37 posted 11/29/07 5:49am

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Whitnail said:

Mach said:



Yes - I was 17 ( I had been gang raped and ended up pregnant )

put myself in the hospital for 5 days and a few months of assisted mental health healing



and you were saying you have a bigger porn collection wink

To be honest i have no other way of replying to that, only to say that i have had a very similiar experience, and i am not sure if it is something i could talk about here, but your courage to mention it is amazing, no more words

peace

hug rose to both of you
With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A....
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Reply #38 posted 11/29/07 6:04am

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nothing to say that would not sound demented lol
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #39 posted 11/29/07 6:38am

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WillyWonka said:

I have 'considered' suicide in that there have been periods where I've wished with all my being to die so as to finally bring to an end the pain of certain longstanding - and seemingly neverending - torments and circumstances which had drained me of practically all hope and belief for a future worth living, and have had to go to the hospital when those feelings of despair became acutely overwhelming, but have since concluded I don't have it in me to commit the actual act.



I am lost for words, but your words inspire me

Peace N B WILD
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #40 posted 11/29/07 6:39am

shanti0608

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been on the brink of suicide


Sad to say yes....
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Reply #41 posted 11/29/07 6:46am

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I've given it serious thought from time to time most of my life, starting at about age 13 or so. Came quite close a time or two. Thoughts of my mother and later my niece kept me from going through with it. I'm sure it will be something that I'll think about from time to time forever. But at this point I think it will always be more something to daydream/fantasize about, less an actual plan. At least, I hope so.
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Reply #42 posted 11/29/07 6:50am

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Oh sure. There have been several times in my life when things have happened that I just couldn't handle at the time. But, somehow I found the strength to pull through.
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Reply #43 posted 11/29/07 6:54am

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shanti0608 said:

Whitnail said:

been on the brink of suicide


Sad to say yes....



but you did not cross the line, and we all share a new joy, you getting engaged, it was an up lifting moment to see that on the threads

Peace N love each other to death, even if Dan´s words come true wink
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Reply #44 posted 11/29/07 7:02am

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CarrieMpls said:

I've given it serious thought from time to time most of my life, starting at about age 13 or so. Came quite close a time or two. Thoughts of my mother and later my niece kept me from going through with it. I'm sure it will be something that I'll think about from time to time forever. But at this point I think it will always be more something to daydream/fantasize about, less an actual plan. At least, I hope so.



I find it disturbing that so many of us had such thoughts at such a young age, even though a friend of mine ended it with 14, makes me wonder about all the depressions i used have when i was young and what significence it has now
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #45 posted 11/29/07 7:02am

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The thought has crossed my mind but I've never been on the brink. I always feel like I'm waiting for something great to happen in my life and I've determined it will never happen if I take myself out. My dad and my brother have both attempted suicide when I was young and I was very disappointed in both of them. I don't want to make anyone feel that way.
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Reply #46 posted 11/29/07 7:04am

shanti0608

Whitnail said:

shanti0608 said:



Sad to say yes....



but you did not cross the line, and we all share a new joy, you getting engaged, it was an up lifting moment to see that on the threads

Peace N love each other to death, even if Dan´s words come true wink


No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.

Oh and as for Dan's words...he says a lot of crap that never comes true...

wink


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Reply #47 posted 11/29/07 7:13am

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JuliePurplehead said:

The thought has crossed my mind but I've never been on the brink. I always feel like I'm waiting for something great to happen in my life and I've determined it will never happen if I take myself out. My dad and my brother have both attempted suicide when I was young and I was very disappointed in both of them. I don't want to make anyone feel that way.


why were you dissappointed? There is a saying that says does that commit suicide are cowards, and alot more stuff. Do you not think, you should give your father and brother a hug and say thank you for being and staying here?

i understand your dissappointment, but obviously something prevented the worst and I think in that, they both need a hug
If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.

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Reply #48 posted 11/29/07 7:17am

WillyWonka

Whitnail said:

WillyWonka said:

I have 'considered' suicide in that there have been periods where I've wished with all my being to die so as to finally bring to an end the pain of certain longstanding - and seemingly neverending - torments and circumstances which had drained me of practically all hope and belief for a future worth living, and have had to go to the hospital when those feelings of despair became acutely overwhelming, but have since concluded I don't have it in me to commit the actual act.



I am lost for words, but your words inspire me

Peace N B WILD



And to you, sir. rose
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Reply #49 posted 11/29/07 7:18am

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shanti0608 said:

Whitnail said:




but you did not cross the line, and we all share a new joy, you getting engaged, it was an up lifting moment to see that on the threads

Peace N love each other to death, even if Dan´s words come true wink


No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.

Oh and as for Dan's words...he says a lot of crap that never comes true...

wink


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aha, it was the dogs then?, women, why you only ever think about dogs wink

BTW, did you call one of them prince razz
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Reply #50 posted 11/29/07 7:27am

shanti0608

Whitnail said:

shanti0608 said:



No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.

Oh and as for Dan's words...he says a lot of crap that never comes true...

wink


giggle
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aha, it was the dogs then?, women, why you only ever think about dogs wink

BTW, did you call one of them prince razz




Well at the time the dogs were the only things in my life that relied on me.

Ummm no..none of my pets have ever been called Prince.
I have always loved my pets.

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Reply #51 posted 11/29/07 7:28am

WillyWonka

shanti0608 said:

Whitnail said:




but you did not cross the line, and we all share a new joy, you getting engaged, it was an up lifting moment to see that on the threads

Peace N love each other to death, even if Dan´s words come true wink


No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.




If I may say so, you are a perfect and very hope-giving example of the marvelous, unexpected things the future may hold for a person, despite how desolate life might sometimes feel.
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Reply #52 posted 11/29/07 7:32am

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WillyWonka said:

shanti0608 said:



No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.




If I may say so, you are a perfect and very hope-giving example of the marvelous, unexpected things the future may hold for a person, despite how desolate life might sometimes feel.


this is odd, i was about to reply to both of you again and both of you reply to me together

very strange

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Reply #53 posted 11/29/07 7:32am

shanti0608

WillyWonka said:

shanti0608 said:



No I did not cross the line thankfully....
I had 3 dogs at the time that would have starved to death if I had done it. That was really the only reason that stopped me at the time.

Thanks for your kind words... I feel much better these days and I have so much to live for.




If I may say so, you are a perfect and very hope-giving example of the marvelous, unexpected things the future may hold for a person, despite how desolate life might sometimes feel.




touched


Thank you so much for your kind words...wow....


I am speechless.

I could say the same about you for sure nod

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Reply #54 posted 11/29/07 7:35am

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I'm gonna be called a jerk.

I don't find it soothing at all to air ALL my personal business on a message board.

I have a lot of things that go on in my world, but I discuss that to my literal in person friends.

No judgement....I just can't wrap my head around bearing one's soul on an internet board...just me.

I mean I'll talk about relationships, work, whatever. But I cannot fathom airing allll my dirty laundry on a board of folk I really don't know.


So here come the remarks...But I really don't check out or hang out here much anyway. I am not judging anyone here and I hope you all feel better.
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Reply #55 posted 11/29/07 7:36am

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shanti0608 said:

Whitnail said:



aha, it was the dogs then?, women, why you only ever think about dogs wink

BTW, did you call one of them prince razz




Well at the time the dogs were the only things in my life that relied on me.

Ummm no..none of my pets have ever been called Prince.
I have always loved my pets.

wink

BTW I wanted to laugh myself stupid at that, when i was young i had a dog named Prince, but it had nothing to do with the other one, was just one of those coincidences in life, maybe the dog was the reason why i got into music eek
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Reply #56 posted 11/29/07 7:37am

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KatSkrizzle said:

I'm gonna be called a jerk.

I don't find it soothing at all to air ALL my personal business on a message board.

I have a lot of things that go on in my world, but I discuss that to my literal in person friends.

No judgement....I just can't wrap my head around bearing one's soul on an internet board...just me.

I mean I'll talk about relationships, work, whatever. But I cannot fathom airing allll my dirty laundry on a board of folk I really don't know.


So here come the remarks...But I really don't check out or hang out here much anyway. I am not judging anyone here and I hope you all feel better.



You're not a jerk, it's your opinion and you have a right to it. Some people feel better if they talk about this stuff, they find that they are not alone and it helps them.

If I don't like a thread I just don't post on it.
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Reply #57 posted 11/29/07 7:44am

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Whitnail said:

JuliePurplehead said:

The thought has crossed my mind but I've never been on the brink. I always feel like I'm waiting for something great to happen in my life and I've determined it will never happen if I take myself out. My dad and my brother have both attempted suicide when I was young and I was very disappointed in both of them. I don't want to make anyone feel that way.


why were you dissappointed? There is a saying that says does that commit suicide are cowards, and alot more stuff. Do you not think, you should give your father and brother a hug and say thank you for being and staying here?

i understand your dissappointment, but obviously something prevented the worst and I think in that, they both need a hug


I was 9 years old. Whether I was right to feel what I did or not, I wasn't old enough to understand. All I could think about was my dad was trying to leave me. I was also disappointed in myself because I didn't feel like I was worth sticking around for. Not only that, but I had all these people whispering behind my back about the situation. It didn't help that my mother took me to the apartment where he shot himself while she cleaned up the blood. In retrospect, yes, I should have thought more about them and less about myself.
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Reply #58 posted 11/29/07 7:47am

WillyWonka

Whitnail said:

JuliePurplehead said:

The thought has crossed my mind but I've never been on the brink. I always feel like I'm waiting for something great to happen in my life and I've determined it will never happen if I take myself out. My dad and my brother have both attempted suicide when I was young and I was very disappointed in both of them. I don't want to make anyone feel that way.


why were you dissappointed? There is a saying that says does that commit suicide are cowards, and alot more stuff. Do you not think, you should give your father and brother a hug and say thank you for being and staying here?

i understand your dissappointment, but obviously something prevented the worst and I think in that, they both need a hug



I agree with Whitnail.

Though I understand the terrible consequences of suicide and the anger and emotional aftermath of it on friends and family, suicidal individuals who 'made it through' (either of their own volition or by circumstance) and did not take their own life often face many, many years - if not for the rest of their lives - of battling to overcome whatever demons it was which brought them to the point of attempting suicide, of remaining strong against that lure in the future, and of embarrassment of their 'weakness' at having made the attempt/s.

It's my belief these people deserve credit for the measure of strength it takes to continue on every day when life, to them, seems (or seemed) so bleak that death became more attractive than living -- which is a terrible way to exist, and nearly impossible to comprehend by those who've never felt that way.
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Reply #59 posted 11/29/07 7:49am

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KatSkrizzle said:

I'm gonna be called a jerk.

I don't find it soothing at all to air ALL my personal business on a message board.

I have a lot of things that go on in my world, but I discuss that to my literal in person friends.

No judgement....I just can't wrap my head around bearing one's soul on an internet board...just me.

I mean I'll talk about relationships, work, whatever. But I cannot fathom airing allll my dirty laundry on a board of folk I really don't know.


So here come the remarks...But I really don't check out or hang out here much anyway. I am not judging anyone here and I hope you all feel better.



no problem, we all have whatever, the moment i posted this thread i regretted it, but now i dont. the only comment which you say that is annoying , is about hanging out dirty laundry, it is exactly this attitude that has people frozen to the bone about expressing a feeling that is actually quite normal, but, I say, let you guide us all, as you seem to be on the perfect level
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