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Reply #60 posted 11/22/07 5:44am

thesexofit

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thesexofit said:

Maybe now this so called "golden generation" can fuck off and England can slowly make a new team. One without any Lampard (shit), Gerrard (I give up on him), and Beckham. Those once keys players I imagine are finished now. Lampard has played shit for England for years now LOL.


As usual, we were arrogent enough that when we got the game back to a draw, we sat back, assuming that was just enough to see off the game. WE ALWAYS DO THIS. We take the easiest route through the game, and get lazy. Havn't England learnt that by now, coasting for the minumum required often makes for dull games, and SHOCK, upsets like today (the 3rd goal from Croatia for example was classic England falling asleep, arrogent enough to assume, that hanging on for a draw, was enough to see off an international team, that is infact, better then us).

England have got to get rid of that mindset that they can coast through every game. And as has previously been said, long passes to the centre box, OFTEN DO NOT WORK. Clever passes yes. Short passes, yes, runs down the wing, yes, they work. Long silly "hit and hopes" to the centre area, no they very often get headed away, end of.


I agree with nearly all of this, unfortunately, but one thing - if not Gerrard and Lampard, two of the most consistent performers in the Premiership over the last 3 or 4 years, then who?



Good point, and as you know, no one can answer that unfortunately. At least Wright Phillips shows some promise I guess? He's no beckham, but at least he runs and tackles people, which I never saw Beckham do lol

I guess Campbell will be finished aswell. Richards was pretty ropey (he did play didn't he? All these new guys LOL). Infact, they all were pretty crap really. Crouch was OK, and like in the world cup when Rooney was upfront on his own (4-5-1, a fucking horrible formation), no one could get it to Crouch in the first half, so that wasn't his fault at least. He was isolated
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Reply #61 posted 11/22/07 8:18am

mdiver

The whole team were shocking tbh, in fact it galls me to say it but it was Beckham that made the difference when he came on.
The back 4 were shakey to say the least, Judas Campbell's legs are shot and it showed,there was no flair at all in midfield and with Crouch up front who was there to deliver the ball to him at kick off? SWP? DO me a favour that boy is good with the ball at his feet but he cant deliver a cross to save his life.

Bottom line is that McLaren fucked up the selection for a massively important game. To start with Carson was truly stupid and to mess around like it was a friendly makes him look like a buffoon. I also am pissed that we played the Austria friendly..there was no reason for that, and because of it we lost Owen. I mean why play Robbo in that game? Why not give Carson a run out there and choose between the top 2 keepers for the competitive game.

I am so pissed off right now, i sincerely hope that the 8.30 meeting at the FA brings news that the fucktard is gone with no payoff and christmas has been cancelled at his house lol
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Reply #62 posted 11/22/07 8:22am

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mdiver said:

The whole team were shocking tbh, in fact it galls me to say it but it was Beckham that made the difference when he came on.
The back 4 were shakey to say the least, Judas Campbell's legs are shot and it showed,there was no flair at all in midfield and with Crouch up front who was there to deliver the ball to him at kick off? SWP? DO me a favour that boy is good with the ball at his feet but he cant deliver a cross to save his life.

Bottom line is that McLaren fucked up the selection for a massively important game. To start with Carson was truly stupid and to mess around like it was a friendly makes him look like a buffoon. I also am pissed that we played the Austria friendly..there was no reason for that, and because of it we lost Owen. I mean why play Robbo in that game? Why not give Carson a run out there and choose between the top 2 keepers for the competitive game.

I am so pissed off right now, i sincerely hope that the 8.30 meeting at the FA brings news that the fucktard is gone with no payoff and christmas has been cancelled at his house lol



comfort

will keep everything crossed. But who replaces him? Not that we actually need anyone for a few years until the world cup disbelief
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Reply #63 posted 11/22/07 8:24am

mdiver

ellieadore said:

mdiver said:

The whole team were shocking tbh, in fact it galls me to say it but it was Beckham that made the difference when he came on.
The back 4 were shakey to say the least, Judas Campbell's legs are shot and it showed,there was no flair at all in midfield and with Crouch up front who was there to deliver the ball to him at kick off? SWP? DO me a favour that boy is good with the ball at his feet but he cant deliver a cross to save his life.

Bottom line is that McLaren fucked up the selection for a massively important game. To start with Carson was truly stupid and to mess around like it was a friendly makes him look like a buffoon. I also am pissed that we played the Austria friendly..there was no reason for that, and because of it we lost Owen. I mean why play Robbo in that game? Why not give Carson a run out there and choose between the top 2 keepers for the competitive game.

I am so pissed off right now, i sincerely hope that the 8.30 meeting at the FA brings news that the fucktard is gone with no payoff and christmas has been cancelled at his house lol



comfort

will keep everything crossed. But who replaces him? Not that we actually need anyone for a few years until the world cup disbelief



My choice would be Phil Scolari but we wont get him and especially because of the Euro's there wont be a huge shuffling of the managers at national level.
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Reply #64 posted 11/22/07 8:48am

Natisse

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nod can you spare her for 45?


But who will get my Guinness from the fridge?


brick


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big hug to both of you rose
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Reply #65 posted 11/22/07 9:20am

ConsciousConta
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I am so happy that I don't have to put up with the usual overhyped bollox next summer from the fans, press and players saying that we're going to win it, when we so blatantly aren't capable.
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Reply #66 posted 11/22/07 9:27am

mdiver

Sky news are reporting Mclaren sacked woot!
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Reply #67 posted 11/22/07 9:33am

jizzinparis

mdiver said:

Sky news are reporting Mclaren sacked woot!


Amen woot!

I read once an interview of him in a french sport newspaper. Incredible how arrogant the fucker was on his answers.
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Reply #68 posted 11/22/07 9:35am

mdiver

jizzinparis said:

mdiver said:

Sky news are reporting Mclaren sacked woot!


Amen woot!

I read once an interview of him in a french sport newspaper. Incredible how arrogant the fucker was on his answers.


Send him to my house....i wanna kick him in the plums
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Reply #69 posted 11/22/07 9:39am

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mdiver said:

jizzinparis said:



Amen woot!

I read once an interview of him in a french sport newspaper. Incredible how arrogant the fucker was on his answers.


Send him to my house....i wanna kick him in the plums


Oh fuck falloff

Did they mention on Sky one or several names for the future ?
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Reply #70 posted 11/22/07 9:46am

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Reply #71 posted 11/22/07 9:47am

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Reply #72 posted 11/22/07 9:48am

mdiver

jizzinparis said:

mdiver said:



Send him to my house....i wanna kick him in the plums


Oh fuck falloff

Did they mention on Sky one or several names for the future ?


No the press conference is just about to start....i want Phil Scolari but that wont happen....my grandmother would be a better choice than McClaren
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Reply #73 posted 11/22/07 9:55am

jizzinparis

mdiver said:

jizzinparis said:



Oh fuck falloff

Did they mention on Sky one or several names for the future ?


No the press conference is just about to start....i want Phil Scolari but that wont happen....my grandmother would be a better choice than McClaren


Yeap, Scolari would be a good choice.

What about Mourinho ? lol

Ok Phil, i'm on the way to run away very fast from the computer. Very fast...
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Reply #74 posted 11/22/07 9:59am

mdiver

jizzinparis said:

mdiver said:



No the press conference is just about to start....i want Phil Scolari but that wont happen....my grandmother would be a better choice than McClaren


Yeap, Scolari would be a good choice.

What about Mourinho ? lol

Ok Phil, i'm on the way to run away very fast from the computer. Very fast...


Moanrinho is being talked about. Personally i dont like him and wherever he has been he has had money to spend. National game is different, you get what you get and i am not sure how he would deal with that. However currently at Lancaster Gate (FA) everyone is a "YES" man and Moanrinho would not be that. I dunno, i admire his passion but he whinges like a bitch. He is no doubt talented but England national coach???? We need a sure bet.
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Reply #75 posted 11/22/07 10:01am

mdiver

Venables sacked too
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Reply #76 posted 11/22/07 10:07am

jizzinparis

mdiver said:

jizzinparis said:



Yeap, Scolari would be a good choice.

What about Mourinho ? lol

Ok Phil, i'm on the way to run away very fast from the computer. Very fast...


Moanrinho is being talked about. Personally i dont like him and wherever he has been he has had money to spend. National game is different, you get what you get and i am not sure how he would deal with that. However currently at Lancaster Gate (FA) everyone is a "YES" man and Moanrinho would not be that. I dunno, i admire his passion but he whinges like a bitch. He is no doubt talented but England national coach???? We need a sure bet.


Agreed. But i must admit one thing about him. He's an amazing leader and he knows how to transcend his players.
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Reply #77 posted 11/22/07 10:08am

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Reply #78 posted 11/22/07 10:08am

jizzinparis

mdiver said:

jizzinparis said:



Yeap, Scolari would be a good choice.

What about Mourinho ? lol

Ok Phil, i'm on the way to run away very fast from the computer. Very fast...


Moanrinho is being talked about. Personally i dont like him and wherever he has been he has had money to spend. National game is different, you get what you get and i am not sure how he would deal with that. However currently at Lancaster Gate (FA) everyone is a "YES" man and Moanrinho would not be that. I dunno, i admire his passion but he whinges like a bitch. He is no doubt talented but England national coach???? We need a sure bet.


Agreed. But i must admit one thing about him. He's an amazing leader and he knows how to transcend his players.
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Reply #79 posted 11/22/07 10:09am

mdiver

jizzinparis said:

mdiver said:



Moanrinho is being talked about. Personally i dont like him and wherever he has been he has had money to spend. National game is different, you get what you get and i am not sure how he would deal with that. However currently at Lancaster Gate (FA) everyone is a "YES" man and Moanrinho would not be that. I dunno, i admire his passion but he whinges like a bitch. He is no doubt talented but England national coach???? We need a sure bet.


Agreed. But i must admit one thing about him. He's an amazing leader and he knows how to transcend his players.


nod They are saying it will be a while before another appointment
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Reply #80 posted 11/22/07 10:16am

jizzinparis

mdiver said:

jizzinparis said:



Agreed. But i must admit one thing about him. He's an amazing leader and he knows how to transcend his players.


nod They are saying it will be a while before another appointment


I'm watching Sky News right now woot!

"Recruitment process for new head coach begins now"
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Reply #81 posted 11/22/07 5:49pm

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Just hope we get someone decent this time around. We also need to not forget that many of our 'key' players are getting older and might not have many more years of competitive play in them.
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Reply #82 posted 11/22/07 5:52pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

mdiver said:

The whole team were shocking tbh, in fact it galls me to say it but it was Beckham that made the difference when he came on.
The back 4 were shakey to say the least, Judas Campbell's legs are shot and it showed,there was no flair at all in midfield and with Crouch up front who was there to deliver the ball to him at kick off? SWP? DO me a favour that boy is good with the ball at his feet but he cant deliver a cross to save his life.

Bottom line is that McLaren fucked up the selection for a massively important game. To start with Carson was truly stupid and to mess around like it was a friendly makes him look like a buffoon. I also am pissed that we played the Austria friendly..there was no reason for that, and because of it we lost Owen. I mean why play Robbo in that game? Why not give Carson a run out there and choose between the top 2 keepers for the competitive game.

I am so pissed off right now, i sincerely hope that the 8.30 meeting at the FA brings news that the fucktard is gone with no payoff and christmas has been cancelled at his house lol


eek Cancelled?
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Reply #83 posted 11/22/07 5:53pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

ellieadore said:

Just hope we get someone decent this time around. We also need to not forget that many of our 'key' players are getting older and might not have many more years of competitive play in them.

eek What has Jon done to you?!?!?!?!?!??!
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Reply #84 posted 11/22/07 6:08pm

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Muse2NOPharaoh said:

ellieadore said:

Just hope we get someone decent this time around. We also need to not forget that many of our 'key' players are getting older and might not have many more years of competitive play in them.

eek What has Jon done to you?!?!?!?!?!??!



lol I follow it closer then he does. I'm usually the one telling him we are playing.

He does have me playing it on the playstation now which usually results in me using terrible language and throwing the controller down.
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Reply #85 posted 11/22/07 6:13pm

mdiver

ellieadore said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:


eek What has Jon done to you?!?!?!?!?!??!



lol I follow it closer then he does. I'm usually the one telling him we are playing.

He does have me playing it on the playstation now which usually results in me using terrible language and throwing the controller down.


Like that has never happened before rolleyes wink
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Reply #86 posted 11/22/07 6:15pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

ellieadore said:

Muse2NOPharaoh said:


eek What has Jon done to you?!?!?!?!?!??!



lol I follow it closer then he does. I'm usually the one telling him we are playing.

He does have me playing it on the playstation now which usually results in me using terrible language and throwing the controller down.

lol I sooooo can see you doing that.
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Reply #87 posted 11/22/07 6:16pm

ellieadore

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mdiver said:

ellieadore said:




lol I follow it closer then he does. I'm usually the one telling him we are playing.

He does have me playing it on the playstation now which usually results in me using terrible language and throwing the controller down.


Like that has never happened before rolleyes wink


brick
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Reply #88 posted 11/22/07 6:16pm

Muse2NOPharaoh

mdiver said:

ellieadore said:




lol I follow it closer then he does. I'm usually the one telling him we are playing.

He does have me playing it on the playstation now which usually results in me using terrible language and throwing the controller down.


Like that has never happened before rolleyes wink

Shes British they all have that in em! wink
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Reply #89 posted 11/22/07 6:17pm

mdiver

ellieadore said:

mdiver said:



Like that has never happened before rolleyes wink


brick


Dammit i will have to wait till after you give birth and then fishslap you wink
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