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Thread started 11/21/07 4:19am

emm

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anyone know anything about hoodia?

i bought 30 pills and now reading on the web i'm not sure i want to try them confused
i thought "hey it's in walmart, it can't be that bad can it?"

confused
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Reply #1 posted 11/21/07 4:31am

2the9s

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Reply #2 posted 11/21/07 4:32am

2the9s

I know they are stem succulents, described as "cactiform" because of their remarkable similarity to the unrelated cactus family. shrug

Is that what you mean?
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Reply #3 posted 11/21/07 4:39am

Imago

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.
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Reply #4 posted 11/21/07 4:39am

StillGotIt

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emm said:

i bought 30 pills and now reading on the web i'm not sure i want to try them confused
i thought "hey it's in walmart, it can't be that bad can it?"

confused


Walmarts also sell cigarettes. Does that make them harmless?

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Reply #5 posted 11/21/07 4:40am

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Plant extract used as a appetite suppressant used by Africans to curb hunger by sucking on plant leaves.....the extract expands in your stomach giving you a feeling of being full.

This is why all those little African kids walk around with distended bellies.
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Reply #6 posted 11/21/07 4:43am

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Plant extract used as a appetite suppressant used by Africans to curb hunger by sucking on plant leaves.....the extract expands in your stomach giving you a feeling of being full.

This is why all those little African kids walk around with distended bellies.
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Reply #7 posted 11/21/07 4:44am

emm

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lol i think if you read it supposedly works on the hypothalmus
and not expanding in your tummy lol but thanks.


yeah obviously with something unregulated you have no idea what you are ingesting eek
and the other thing is that it masks your body's natural glucose regulation
and you would have no way of realizing if your sugars dropped dangerously low.

lol why did i do this?
i never buy stuff like this disbelief
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Reply #8 posted 11/21/07 4:47am

2the9s

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.


Dan, stfu.
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Reply #9 posted 11/21/07 4:47am

Imago

paintedlady said:

Plant extract used as a appetite suppressant used by Africans to curb hunger by sucking on plant leaves.....the extract expands in your stomach giving you a feeling of being full.

This is why all those little African kids walk around with distended bellies.

lol


I think this is a joke lol
But in case it's not or in case anyone believes this, I believe this the pictures you see of African children with swollen bellies in media is the result of a vitamin deficiency that happens when during starvation and malnutrition.

Hoodia does't do that. It does trick the body into thinking that it is full though. But I think it was a chemical process of some kind--I can't remember exactly.
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Reply #10 posted 11/21/07 4:47am

Imago

2the9s said:

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.


Dan, stfu.



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Reply #11 posted 11/21/07 4:50am

StillGotIt

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paintedlady said:

Plant extract used as a appetite suppressant used by Africans to curb hunger by sucking on plant leaves.....the extract expands in your stomach giving you a feeling of being full.

This is why all those little African kids walk around with distended bellies.




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Reply #12 posted 11/21/07 4:51am

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emm said:

lol i think if you read it supposedly works on the hypothalmus
and not expanding in your tummy lol but thanks.


yeah obviously with something unregulated you have no idea what you are ingesting eek
and the other thing is that it masks your body's natural glucose regulation
and you would have no way of realizing if your sugars dropped dangerously low.

lol why did i do this?
i never buy stuff like this disbelief

Just let me play OK lol

I know it doesn't do that.....Betcha won't lose that vision when you take a pill, and besides hoodia only works when sucked on, hoodia isn't effective in pill form, try the lollypops.
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Reply #13 posted 11/21/07 5:38am

Ocean

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.

Love the avie lol ...I have one like that ...off to find it batting eyes
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Reply #14 posted 11/21/07 9:18am

ZombieKitten

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.


my dad (the expert rolleyes ) told me that all supplements like this have to be totally synthetic in the states - he told me saw palmetto extract from USA had no saw palmetto in it AT ALL. Is that the case?
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Reply #15 posted 11/21/07 1:53pm

Mach

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Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.


my dad (the expert rolleyes ) told me that all supplements like this have to be totally synthetic in the states - he told me saw palmetto extract from USA had no saw palmetto in it AT ALL. Is that the case?


It is the case with some brands yes - It is also not the case in whole food stores or homeopathic pharmacys
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Reply #16 posted 11/21/07 2:22pm

horatio

I know that I watch a cool documentary about it long before it became popular item.
It was about how the pharmacuetical companies were trying to take the rights of owner ship of the plant from a small tribe in africa where it is grown and has been used for ages.

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Reply #17 posted 11/21/07 2:26pm

Imago

Ocean said:

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.

Love the avie lol ...I have one like that ...off to find it batting eyes


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Reply #18 posted 11/21/07 2:28pm

horatio

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.



oh, so your saying after a huge legal battle with pharmaceutical companies over who owns the rights to distribute the plant, the African Tribe won, that now pharmaceutical companies are now saying they have doubts if it actually works. wtf? typical of them.
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Reply #19 posted 11/21/07 2:29pm

Imago

ZombieKitten said:

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.


my dad (the expert rolleyes ) told me that all supplements like this have to be totally synthetic in the states - he told me saw palmetto extract from USA had no saw palmetto in it AT ALL. Is that the case?



No it's not the case.

The problem in the US is that companies do not need to put their products through rigorous testing and certification if they products are not deemed "drugs".
Thus you may get Palmetto in abundant supply in one bottle, and in another, you may get crap.

Normally, companies like EAS and a few others do their own testing, etc. etc. because it allows them to charge more than the others for their supplements by providing some type of assurance, though not overwhelmingly assuring lol, that they're products actually contain what they claim.
It's all about the brand here.
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Reply #20 posted 11/21/07 2:31pm

Imago

horatio said:

Imago said:

It's an African root, that was used by the Indigenous people used in South Africa on long hunting trips because it suppressed appetite and helped with energy levels.

I can't remember which NEWs show I saw that did a report on it. They sent an reporter to South Africa to track down the tribes that used it, the companies that use it in their products, etc. etc.

The conclusion was that it definitely does what its claimed to do. HOWEVER, there is no guarantee that the products that end up on the shelves of stores here stateside have any real hoodia in it, or for that matter, how much of the original plant material is in the products.



oh, so your saying after a huge legal battle with pharmaceutical companies over who owns the rights to distribute the plant, the African Tribe won, that now pharmaceutical companies are now saying they have doubts if it actually works. wtf? typical of them.
confused


I don't know if it was the pharmaceutical companies that said it or if I got it from a website. but I do know that the claim is that not all products on shelves here actually have adequate or quality hoodia in them.



or something like that. And yeah--typical.
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Reply #21 posted 11/21/07 2:38pm

horatio

Imago said:

ZombieKitten said:



my dad (the expert rolleyes ) told me that all supplements like this have to be totally synthetic in the states - he told me saw palmetto extract from USA had no saw palmetto in it AT ALL. Is that the case?



No it's not the case.

The problem in the US is that companies do not need to put their products through rigorous testing and certification if they products are not deemed "drugs".
Thus you may get Palmetto in abundant supply in one bottle, and in another, you may get crap.

Normally, companies like EAS and a few others do their own testing, etc. etc. because it allows them to charge more than the others for their supplements by providing some type of assurance, though not overwhelmingly assuring lol, that they're products actually contain what they claim.
It's all about the brand here.



what about if they are labeled 'organic'?
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