Imago said:

then why did they use the word nigger and not something else, like drunk driving?

racism is racism and i call it how i see it.

I dont know what the hell this thread is about but Dan just reminded me of that Chris Rock skit and I am dying


ok carry on.

Byron said:

um...porn is far less offensive than the word nigger and carries far less weight.

People who watch porn and adult film stars are far from perverts and I don't see how their reaction to racism should be any different than anybody elses. So just because you own an adult film shop you shouldn't be offended when someone calls a black man a nigger? Sorry no. There is no overreaction to the use of this word. The use of this word has a long and painful history in America and those who use it, whether it is done seriously, in jest, or while one is being "fucked hard" should be punished. end of story.

sorry, "nigger" isn't funny. even if the onion is the one poking fun.

Byron said:

Exactly. One way to take this, though is that, "Nigger" is a fucking word! No doubt, a word with history. But, still, it is a word, nonetheless. I mean, really. How many words can one come up with from within the dictionary that once posed as a threat or element of terminological disorderlines of offense? A bunch, I'm sure. Racism still exists. But, I laughed at it because we're all a bunch of hypocrites. Some of us will disregard the American Indian or the Jewish/Judaic Peoples that suffered from the Holocaust. I'm not saying that we should shut the fuck up and take it up the ass. I'm just saying that society was fucked-up, is fucked-up, and has been fucked-up since the beginning of times. Some of our humor is broad and "NEARLY" boundariless. Others are the total opposite or in-between.

This is some of the few reasons why I'm not insulted by the use of the word because (Even though these terminological semantics of common linguistics within the European/American Vicinities are not proper epithets.....if there ever was such a thing.) there is always other things that can be said. As Samuel L. Jackson has once said, "Niggers/Niggas can be of "ANY" race/ethnicity!" That's kind of how I see it. The Michael Richards Situation, for me, was actually quite ridiculously humorous. Seeing the man's meltdown was funny....."AS HELL!!!" Ya' un'stan?!?

JasmineFire said:

1) To some it is, to some it isn't...but it was more a comment on using an industry that borders on obscene to talk about something obscene...but in a very witty way.

2) I didn't say people who watch porn are perverts...I said the people they "interviewed" were lol...They didn't interview an accountant, they interviewed a "masturbator" ...(yes, that was the label they gave the guy who talked crudely about having seen Jennica get, um, "serviced" in a variety of ways).

3) The video is NOT about how funny it was that a black man was called a nigger. It was COMPLETELY a send-up on all the celebrities showing their true colors, saying something offensive, and the culture of apology and "gotcha" that has grown from it. If you can only see it in such simplistic terms, and think the only reason anyone is laughing is because the word "nigger" was used, you'll never get the point. But trust me, that's not the basis of the humor.

I dont know what the hell this thread is about but Dan just reminded me of that Chris Rock skit and I am dying


ok carry on.

DanceWme said:

Well, it was funny as all hell


I'm sure there were a few white folks squirming in the audience

JasmineFire said:

1) To some it is, to some it isn't...but it was more a comment on using an industry that borders on obscene to talk about something obscene...but in a very witty way.

2) I didn't say people who watch porn are perverts...I said the people they "interviewed" were lol...They didn't interview an accountant, they interviewed a "masturbator" ...(yes, that was the label they gave the guy who talked crudely about having seen Jennica get, um, "serviced" in a variety of ways).

3) The video is NOT about how funny it was that a black man was called a nigger. It was COMPLETELY a send-up on all the celebrities showing their true colors, saying something offensive, and the culture of apology and "gotcha" that has grown from it. If you can only see it in such simplistic terms, and think the only reason anyone is laughing is because the word "nigger" was used, you'll never get the point. But trust me, that's not the basis of the humor.

DanceWme said:

I forgot about that skit, too lol ..."And I'll kill my Cracka kids, too!" ...

you never masturbate? last time i checked masturbation was a normal human activity, not a perverted one. just sayin'

i get the basis of the humor but there was no reason to use the word. none at all. they could have used a different scenario to illustrate the same point but they didn't.

JasmineFire said:

Oh come on Jass. When Chris Rock told his "Cracka ass Cracka" joke, he was making fun of racism and the use of the word Cracka illustrated that.

Were you offended by that?


It wasn' to make fun of white people in his skit, but to point out the pointlessness of racism in his own family.


Likewise the onion is not doing a hate-piece either. They just used a word your much more sensative too, and I'm not faulting you for that at all.


But don't infer that I enjoy use of the word "nigger" for it's own sake as entertainment. This onion piece was not about that at all, as Byron and I have stated.

JasmineFire said:

The point was, he was identified by it lol ...They used that particular physical activity (heh) to define him. That's the difference.



With the "Kramer" meltdown so fresh in everyone's mind, I'm not surprised at all that they did...and would it be better if they had used some other slur? Would it have succeeded as well if they had not used an ethnic or racial slur, and instead used some insult meaning "fat" or "stupid" or whatever? I doubt it. Porn is a pretty intense industry in terms of containing things people consider offensive...they needed something just as intense to make the humor work.

holy shit people it was a joke.

sammij said:

i find lots of things funny but i don't find the word nigger funny. i just don't. sorry.

Byron said:

it would have been better if they had used no slur. but if you find it funny then hey..you find it funny. hardy har.

Imago said:

He was talking about how old black men are the most racist men you will ever meet because they experienced some real racism. "none of this 'i can;t get a cab' bullshit. the black man was the cab!"

I always felt that the point of that piece was to show that the pains of racism never go away and that the consequences of it are deeply imbedded in our society. Chris Rock presented it in a very funny way because that is what he does best but the point of the piece, if you really look at it, is nto funny at all and says a great deal about American society and how it has treated black people throughout its history. It's a funny piece about a very unfunny subject.

In my experience, many white people feel like since slavery is done and the civil rights movement is over that there is no more racism in the world and that is so not the case. Just look at the old black man at your job as an example.

As far as me being too sensivite to the word nigger...sorry man, there is no such thing. You can never be too sensitive to such a word, only too insensitive.

JasmineFire said:

ok, I just want to make sure I get this.

WOuld the premise of thew news report still be ok if it was centered around her using the racial slur and having to apologize for it, so long as they didn't simulate the scene where she says it?

Or is it that the premise itself was unsettling enough that the joke wasn't funny.

I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just trying to figure out which part you're offended by. Just the use of the word, or the entire premise that the skit was built around the celebrity slipup in which the word was used?



lawd, I just confused myself. Does anyone know how to ask that question better than I did?

Byron said:

it would have been better if they had used no slur. but if you find it funny then hey..you find it funny. hardy har.

JasmineFire said:

and you think i do?
i'm just saying, why pry the joke apart when it is what it is?

JasmineFire said:

You asked us why we did laugh...which I thought meant you wanted to understand what elements of the video we found humorous. I didn't realize you were only asking in order to tell us all how wrong we were for doing so.

JasmineFire said:

so his use of "cracka" was ok then. Right?

sammij said:

i find lots of things funny but i don't find the word nigger funny. i just don't. sorry.

JasmineFire said:

ok, I just want to make sure I get this.

WOuld the premise of thew news report still be ok if it was centered around her using the racial slur and having to apologize for it, so long as they didn't simulate the scene where she says it?

Or is it that the premise itself was unsettling enough that the joke wasn't funny.

I'm not trying to be difficult. I'm just trying to figure out which part you're offended by. Just the use of the word, or the entire premise that the skit was built around the celebrity slipup in which the word was used?



lawd, I just confused myself. Does anyone know how to ask that question better than I did?

sammij said:

i don't know what you find funny. i could care less what the joke was about. i just don't think they needed to use to word nigger to illustrate their point.

JasmineFire said:

Nobody on this thread has said they do, either. I think the word was used once in the video, and that was probably the least funny moment of the entire skit.

Again, I'm finding it really hard to understand why you think everyone is laughing at the "N" word being used...when nobody said they were.

Whatever is going on I dont care

Byron said:

i don't think that everybody is laughing at the n word. i think that everybody is laughing inspite of it and that disturbs me. the word disturbs me. racism disturbs me.