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PrintableSweeTea said: IceNine said: SweeTea said: IceNine said: A "southern drawl" is an accent, not a completely improper use of the language, That's bulls___ and you know it. You're playing on words. There is no difference. There ABSOLUTELY is a difference and you know it. Pronouncing words with an accent is completely different than speaking completely improper English. Since when does an accent involve INVENTING words and completely mis-using existing words? British people have accents, but they speak proper English, etc. So, your assertion that an accent is EXACTLY the same thing as speaking a bastard dialect is grossly inacurrate and is not based in any form of intelligent research or fact. So tell me then what the differnce is changing booth to boof. What is the difference in chaning you all to yall? People have invented new English words from the beginning of time. That's why dictionaries are updated constantly. But when Black people start making up new English words it's a problem. I did not say it was a problem to all people only to me. That is my personal opinion, and I have a right to express my personal opinion. This is because I live in the USA, the land of the free (speech) and the home of the brave, with liberty and justice for all. Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. I know for a damn fact boof is not in the dictionary. And that my dear is what bothers me when people do not pronounce words correctly. Sorry call me a grammer freak if you want, maybe I am. | |
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BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: Oh, and uhh, by the way, SweetTea, you might want to research the roots of southern dialect.
A recent article was ran in the Lexington Herald, and I've done some extensive looking around on the internet, I could give you references, of course...They will all tell you the southern dialect originates from Europe...Primarily from the Scottish. LOL If you believe that than so be it. That's your choice. It was written that the world was flat and many books published that fact and people believed that nonsense also. If you want to overlook fact, that's YOUR problem, SweetTea. Go on a search. Search for "Roots of Southern dialect" and "Appalachian dialect." You might surprise yourself. Never have I found a place to tell me otherwise. Sometimes, they include the Cherokee Indians in on the roots for the accent, but you will NOT find that it is a black accent. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:32:40 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] I don't have to research this issue. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. If the southern drawl originated from the Europeans, then why did it change when they got here among slaves. Why didn't they just keep their homegrown accents? Why don't the Northern states have the same accent? "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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BattierBeMyDaddy said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: yes we would like to have a boof by a window.
go and do your worsh. come here I gotta axe you somethin.  The worsh thing is totally southern! Try hearing it every day! "Worsh them thur dishez!"  "Worsh them thur 'maters off afore yew cewk 'em!" Talking southern is a bad thing? Why is taking southern worse? _______________________________________________________________________________________ You can hate me for who I am, cuz I won't be something that i'm not. | |
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AbucahX said: IceNine said: I am not a fan of "ebonics" in any way, shape, form or fashion. I do not agree that it is a language at all, although some linguists might say that it is, due to its being used by a subsection of society.
Since there are no real rules and new words are constantly added, I believe that it is nothing more than illiteracy and slang usage. In short, ebonics bothers me. Nothing more than illiteracy and slang usage? You're absolutely wrong. It becomes slang usage when a person tries to speak ebonics on purpose. My uncle, who I love so much, speaks the so call "ebonics" language. My uncle is a very smart and wealthy man, and very well educated, having many College degrees. When the Ebonics issue came up in the news a couple of years ago, he heard these so called experts state that a person that speaks ebonics will have a slim chance of getting hired during a job interview. My Uncle told me that he made it through life speaking "ebonics" and he ain't about to change his grammar for nobody because he can't talk any other way. What makes me so mad is when I hear other black people, especially white people, speaking "ebonics" when they know they don't talk that way. My uncle grew up in the Jim Crow era in the South and was denied proper schooling. He once told me "It's funny how white people want you to talk their way after being denied schooling to talk in the first place." I know that statement might sound racist to some people but there is a lot of truth to it. My Uncle experienced a lot of racism in his lifetime and he never complained about it. He never let that set him back. He never asked for anything. He's a self made ebonically speaking millionaire. His ebonics didn't hold him back from getting any jobs. It's ironic that he has a degree in English. I personally know many older black people, especially relatives of mines, that speak ebonics..and they are not illiterate nor use it as a slang..they are smart, very well educated people. AbucahX: I seriously do respect your viewpoint and your story. It makes very good sense to me. You make some very fine points about the educational system in the past and the racist Jim Crowe laws. Your uncle was denied something that is now readily available to all people without restriction. The attitudes of school-age kids today is the problem... they do not want to get an education and then try to pass their illiteracy off as a "language." My problem with ebonics is that MANY illiterate people use it as a blanket for their illiteracy and unwillingness to learn proper English. It is much harder to learn to speak proper English than it is to hide behind the thin shield of "ebonics" as an excuse for improper English usage. I do not believe that ebonics is actually a language, but rather that it is a vernacular or dialect. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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AbucahX said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: feltbluish said: it is not a language, it is a DIALECT
Correct -- it is a dialect. Question for those of you who feel offended by Ebonics do you also feel the same about a southern drawl? Why is one diversion of the English language accepted and another not? Is it because it's source is a Black urban thang? Is it because you just don't understand it? Well the so-call southern accent originated from African slaves, but since white people adopted it, it's an acceptable form of speech. I hate hypocrites. Hypocrites are cowards hiding behind the norm. But your hypocrisy is ugly. You love our music, but hate our speech. Why? Both originate from the same culture. I live smack dab in Deliverance, KY. Well, so that's not the name of the town, but it might as well be, and I hate the southern dialect, and am annoyed by it more than any ebonics could ever manage. I have done everything in my power not to adopt the dialect of the southern US. Nor is ebonics just a "black urban thang" it's an everywhere "thang" and plenty of white people do it too. That is completely irrelevant. Whats wrong with the dialect of the southern US? I'm from the South and I don't speak the southern dialect nor ebonics..what's wrong with the dialect of the Southern US? I just don't like it, though I have a small bit of a southern drawl, that is pretty much unavoidable, and I find myself saying "ain't." I do everything in my power to keep it mild. I just think it's too improper, saying "worsh" and "'maters" and "mizzerez" and so on... -------
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SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: Oh, and uhh, by the way, SweetTea, you might want to research the roots of southern dialect.
A recent article was ran in the Lexington Herald, and I've done some extensive looking around on the internet, I could give you references, of course...They will all tell you the southern dialect originates from Europe...Primarily from the Scottish. LOL If you believe that than so be it. That's your choice. It was written that the world was flat and many books published that fact and people believed that nonsense also. If you want to overlook fact, that's YOUR problem, SweetTea. Go on a search. Search for "Roots of Southern dialect" and "Appalachian dialect." You might surprise yourself. Never have I found a place to tell me otherwise. Sometimes, they include the Cherokee Indians in on the roots for the accent, but you will NOT find that it is a black accent. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:32:40 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] I don't have to research this issue. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. If the southern drawl originated from the Europeans, then why did it change when they got here among slaves. Why didn't they just keep their homegrown accents? Why don't the Northern states have the same accent? Cause the people who migrated to the northern states came from different parts of Europe. We did not all originate from the same place in Europe. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:51:20 PDT 2002 by MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld] | |
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IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: you know, now that I think about it I was talking to someone at the grocery store a couple of days after I moved to chicago. He told me that he could tell I was from Indiana cause I had an indiana accent. I did not know if I should be offended or what. I wanted to tell him he was stupid cause he had it too, it is called a midwest accent.
BUT... in the words of SweeTea, you obviously are NOT speaking proper English because you have a noticeable accent! :LOL: Is that, or is that not, the biggest pile of horseshit you have ever heard??? Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so! That is assenine!!! You are so VERY right!  Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so.  "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: Oh, and uhh, by the way, SweetTea, you might want to research the roots of southern dialect.
A recent article was ran in the Lexington Herald, and I've done some extensive looking around on the internet, I could give you references, of course...They will all tell you the southern dialect originates from Europe...Primarily from the Scottish. LOL If you believe that than so be it. That's your choice. It was written that the world was flat and many books published that fact and people believed that nonsense also. If you want to overlook fact, that's YOUR problem, SweetTea. Go on a search. Search for "Roots of Southern dialect" and "Appalachian dialect." You might surprise yourself. Never have I found a place to tell me otherwise. Sometimes, they include the Cherokee Indians in on the roots for the accent, but you will NOT find that it is a black accent. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:32:40 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] I don't have to research this issue. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. If the southern drawl originated from the Europeans, then why did it change when they got here among slaves. Why didn't they just keep their homegrown accents? Why don't the Northern states have the same accent? Because, if you did research, you would realize different European countries have different accents, and different European countries settled in different parts of the United States. Most of the north was settled by southern England, for example...And obviously, if you want to talk about what's "too obvious," the Scottish accent and the English accent from southern England are different. Come on, I mean, why do you think Canadians, Australians, and British have different accents?  -------
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SweeTea said: IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: you know, now that I think about it I was talking to someone at the grocery store a couple of days after I moved to chicago. He told me that he could tell I was from Indiana cause I had an indiana accent. I did not know if I should be offended or what. I wanted to tell him he was stupid cause he had it too, it is called a midwest accent.
BUT... in the words of SweeTea, you obviously are NOT speaking proper English because you have a noticeable accent! :LOL: Is that, or is that not, the biggest pile of horseshit you have ever heard??? Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so! That is assenine!!! You are so VERY right! Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so. When a person's power to debate an issue fails, they often times resort to "birds of a feather" type comments... I have seen it a million times. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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SweeTea said: IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: IceNine said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: you know, now that I think about it I was talking to someone at the grocery store a couple of days after I moved to chicago. He told me that he could tell I was from Indiana cause I had an indiana accent. I did not know if I should be offended or what. I wanted to tell him he was stupid cause he had it too, it is called a midwest accent.
BUT... in the words of SweeTea, you obviously are NOT speaking proper English because you have a noticeable accent! :LOL: Is that, or is that not, the biggest pile of horseshit you have ever heard??? Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so! That is assenine!!! You are so VERY right! Birds of a feather flock together. And deservingly so. Well atleast I am flocking with a bird as cool as me. | |
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BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: Oh, and uhh, by the way, SweetTea, you might want to research the roots of southern dialect.
A recent article was ran in the Lexington Herald, and I've done some extensive looking around on the internet, I could give you references, of course...They will all tell you the southern dialect originates from Europe...Primarily from the Scottish. LOL If you believe that than so be it. That's your choice. It was written that the world was flat and many books published that fact and people believed that nonsense also. If you want to overlook fact, that's YOUR problem, SweetTea. Go on a search. Search for "Roots of Southern dialect" and "Appalachian dialect." You might surprise yourself. Never have I found a place to tell me otherwise. Sometimes, they include the Cherokee Indians in on the roots for the accent, but you will NOT find that it is a black accent. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:32:40 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] I don't have to research this issue. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. If the southern drawl originated from the Europeans, then why did it change when they got here among slaves. Why didn't they just keep their homegrown accents? Why don't the Northern states have the same accent? Because, if you did research, you would realize different European countries have different accents, and different European countries settled in different parts of the United States. Most of the north was settled by southern England, for example...And obviously, if you want to talk about what's "too obvious," the Scottish accent and the English accent from southern England are different. Come on, I mean, why do you think Canadians, Australians, and British have different accents? Oh... and by the definition set forth by SweeTea, these people speak completely different languages since accents change the language! :LOL: SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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AbucahX said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: feltbluish said: it is not a language, it is a DIALECT
Correct -- it is a dialect. Question for those of you who feel offended by Ebonics do you also feel the same about a southern drawl? Why is one diversion of the English language accepted and another not? Is it because it's source is a Black urban thang? Is it because you just don't understand it? Well the so-call southern accent originated from African slaves, but since white people adopted it, it's an acceptable form of speech. I hate hypocrites. Hypocrites are cowards hiding behind the norm. But your hypocrisy is ugly. You love our music, but hate our speech. Why? Both originate from the same culture. I live smack dab in Deliverance, KY. Well, so that's not the name of the town, but it might as well be, and I hate the southern dialect, and am annoyed by it more than any ebonics could ever manage. I have done everything in my power not to adopt the dialect of the southern US. Nor is ebonics just a "black urban thang" it's an everywhere "thang" and plenty of white people do it too. That is completely irrelevant. Whats wrong with the dialect of the southern US? I'm from the South and I don't speak the southern dialect nor ebonics..what's wrong with the dialect of the Southern US? Never did I say there was anything wrong with a southern drawl, neither am I offended by it. In fact I think it's heartwarming. I was just using it as a comparison. "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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IceNine said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: Oh, and uhh, by the way, SweetTea, you might want to research the roots of southern dialect.
A recent article was ran in the Lexington Herald, and I've done some extensive looking around on the internet, I could give you references, of course...They will all tell you the southern dialect originates from Europe...Primarily from the Scottish. LOL If you believe that than so be it. That's your choice. It was written that the world was flat and many books published that fact and people believed that nonsense also. If you want to overlook fact, that's YOUR problem, SweetTea. Go on a search. Search for "Roots of Southern dialect" and "Appalachian dialect." You might surprise yourself. Never have I found a place to tell me otherwise. Sometimes, they include the Cherokee Indians in on the roots for the accent, but you will NOT find that it is a black accent. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 17:32:40 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] I don't have to research this issue. Sometimes the obvious is just too obvious. If the southern drawl originated from the Europeans, then why did it change when they got here among slaves. Why didn't they just keep their homegrown accents? Why don't the Northern states have the same accent? Because, if you did research, you would realize different European countries have different accents, and different European countries settled in different parts of the United States. Most of the north was settled by southern England, for example...And obviously, if you want to talk about what's "too obvious," the Scottish accent and the English accent from southern England are different. Come on, I mean, why do you think Canadians, Australians, and British have different accents? Oh... and by the definition set forth by SweeTea, these people speak completely different languages since accents change the language! :LOL: Blasphemy I say blasphemy...oh do not want to forget assenine. | |
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MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. ok that answers the question on boof, now don't be onesided what about yall? "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: AbucahX said: BattierBeMyDaddy said: SweeTea said: feltbluish said: it is not a language, it is a DIALECT
Correct -- it is a dialect. Question for those of you who feel offended by Ebonics do you also feel the same about a southern drawl? Why is one diversion of the English language accepted and another not? Is it because it's source is a Black urban thang? Is it because you just don't understand it? Well the so-call southern accent originated from African slaves, but since white people adopted it, it's an acceptable form of speech. I hate hypocrites. Hypocrites are cowards hiding behind the norm. But your hypocrisy is ugly. You love our music, but hate our speech. Why? Both originate from the same culture. I live smack dab in Deliverance, KY. Well, so that's not the name of the town, but it might as well be, and I hate the southern dialect, and am annoyed by it more than any ebonics could ever manage. I have done everything in my power not to adopt the dialect of the southern US. Nor is ebonics just a "black urban thang" it's an everywhere "thang" and plenty of white people do it too. That is completely irrelevant. Whats wrong with the dialect of the southern US? I'm from the South and I don't speak the southern dialect nor ebonics..what's wrong with the dialect of the Southern US? Never did I say there was anything wrong with a southern drawl, neither am I offended by it. In fact I think it's heartwarming. I was just using it as a comparison. Hi sweettea..the question was for BattierBeMyDad dy . _______________________________________________________________________________________ You can hate me for who I am, cuz I won't be something that i'm not. | |
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You know what...a dialect may be a "bastardization" of a language, but in so doing, takes on a personality of its own, ex. "Ebonics" It in no way is ignorance.
I grew up in a completely different culture where English is the standard and most commonly spoken language, but guess what, because of lifestyle, interpretation and environmental effects, it has become a dialect for natives, a dialect Americans like to just call "Jamaican", as if Jamaica was the whole Caribbean. I still choose to speak it with my West Indian friends because it is reminiscent of home. And in no way does it make me less intelligent to speak in such a manner. Why did you do that? = A Wa Mek You Do Dat? (English?) End of topic, start a new thread. -------------------------------------------------
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MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. ok that answers the question on boof, now don't be onesided what about yall? "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. ok that answers the question on boof, now don't be onesided what about yall? Once again yall is a made up word combined by using you and all. You can find it in any dictionary by looking up you in the Y section and all in the A section. it is not in there as one word. | |
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As said at www.dictionary.com when one looks up "y'all."
You will also see where it mentions the roots of our dialect, SweetTea. Regional Note: The single most famous feature of Southern United States dialects is the pronoun y'all, sometimes heard in its variant you-all. You-all functions with perfect grammatical regularity as a second person plural pronoun, taking its own possessive you-all's (or less frequently, your-all's, where both parts of the word are inflected for possession): You-all's voices sound alike. Southerners do not, as is sometimes believed, use you-all or y'all for both singular and plural you. A single person may only be addressed as you-all if the speaker implies in the reference other persons not present: Did you-all [you and others] have dinner yet? You and you-all preserve the singular/plural distinction that English used to have in thou and ye, the subject forms of singular and plural you, respectively (thee and you were the singular and plural object forms). The distinction between singular thou/thee and plural ye/you began to blur as early as the 13th century, when the plural form was often used for the singular in formal contexts or to indicate politeness, much as the French use tu for singular and familiar “you,” and vous for both plural and polite singular “you.” In English, the object form you gradually came to be used in subject position as well, so that the four forms thou, thee, ye, and you collapsed into one form, you. Thou and thee were quite rare in educated speech in the 16th century, and they disappeared completely from standard English in the 18th. However, the distinction between singular and plural you is just as useful as that between other singular and plural pronoun forms, such as I and we. In addition to y'all, other forms for plural you include you-uns, youse, and you guys or youse guys. Youse is common in vernacular varieties in the Northeast, particularly in large cities such as New York and Boston, and is also common in Irish English. You-uns is found in western Pennsylvania and in the Appalachians and probably reflects the Scotch-Irish roots of many European settlers to these regions. You guys and youse guys appear to be newer innovations than the other dialectal forms of plural you. See note at you-uns. [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 18:16:03 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] [This message was edited Mon Oct 14 18:17:44 PDT 2002 by BattierBeMyDaddy] -------
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BattierBeMyDaddy said: Because, if you did research, you would realize different European countries have different accents, and different European countries settled in different parts of the United States. Most of the north was settled by southern England, for example...And obviously, if you want to talk about what's "too obvious," the Scottish accent and the English accent from southern England are different. Come on, I mean, why do you think Canadians, Australians, and British have different accents? Oh get real. You mean to tell me that the only people who migrated to the South were from only one part of England? If you believe that then you wasted time doing the research. "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: Oh get real. You mean to tell me that the only people who migrated to the South were from only one part of England? If you believe that then you wasted time doing the research.
Oh, get real... Never did I say they were the ONLY people who came here. Primarily, however, and bringing their form of the language. At least I bothered to do research, instead of only believing in what's "blatantly obvious" in my own head.-------
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Are these examples really useful, or are they simply a vernacular?
da bomb = good or pleasing bumpin' = good or pleasing bangin' = good or pleasing buggin' = acting improperly in a social situation buck wild = acting crazy phat = good or pleasing boo = friend chillin' = relaxing crib = house lampin' = relaxing cold lampin' = relaxing or hanging around with friends fly = good or pleasing gank = steal hoochie = ghetto tramp hoodrat = ghetto tramp homey = friend frontin' = bullshitting Benjamins = Hundred dollar bills peeps = friends playa = a man who uses women for his own purposes shorty or shorties = attractive women rollin' deep = connected snaps = money tight = good or pleasing wack = not good SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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Ice, vernacular or 'slang' or 'lingo' is still different than language or dialect.
They are simply words or phrases used as alternate descriptors. -------------------------------------------------
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feltbluish said: Ice, vernacular or 'slang' or 'lingo' is still different than language or dialect.
They are simply words or phrases used as alternate descriptors. Right... the problem is that ebonics, in practice, is simply a combination of the kinds of things that I posted above, mixed with improper grammar of other kinds... "We be flossin' da dope ride" and things like that. There is no real ebonics language, just a vernacular mixed with improper English usage. This is, of course, just an opinion... but I do not think that it should be considered an actual language, as it is based in English, only with broken rules and new words to replace traditional words. Using slang to spice up speech is fine, but it is not fine when slang replaces proper English. It is even worse when slang usage becomes so prevalent that people try to call it a new "language" instead of calling it what it is, slang. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: SweeTea said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. ok that answers the question on boof, now don't be onesided what about yall? Once again yall is a made up word combined by using you and all. You can find it in any dictionary by looking up you in the Y section and all in the A section. it is not in there as one word. I'm well aware of how to use a dictionary. And as you said yall is not in the dictionary so it is a mispronunciation of you all. It goes both ways. Anyhow this is getting boring. But thanks to all yall fo an xlant dabate. "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: SweeTea said: MostBeautifulGrlNTheWorld said: Besides Boof is not a made-up word it is a incorrectly pronounced word which is booth. ok that answers the question on boof, now don't be onesided what about yall? Once again yall is a made up word combined by using you and all. You can find it in any dictionary by looking up you in the Y section and all in the A section. it is not in there as one word. I'm well aware of how to use a dictionary. And as you said yall is not in the dictionary so it is a mispronunciation of you all. It goes both ways. Anyhow this is getting boring. But thanks to all yall fo an xlant dabate. I do not think that y'all should be used... but that is just my opinion. I would never use that word myself. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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SweeTea said: I'm well aware of how to use a dictionary. And as you said yall is not in the dictionary so it is a mispronunciation of you all. It goes both ways. Anyhow this is getting boring. But thanks to all yall fo an xlant dabate.
It is not a mis-pronunciation, but a combination. -------
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IceNine said: Are these examples really useful, or are they simply a vernacular?
da bomb = good or pleasing bumpin' = good or pleasing bangin' = good or pleasing buggin' = acting improperly in a social situation buck wild = acting crazy phat = good or pleasing boo = friend chillin' = relaxing crib = house lampin' = relaxing cold lampin' = relaxing or hanging around with friends fly = good or pleasing gank = steal hoochie = ghetto tramp hoodrat = ghetto tramp homey = friend frontin' = bullshitting Benjamins = Hundred dollar bills peeps = friends playa = a man who uses women for his own purposes shorty or shorties = attractive women rollin' deep = connected snaps = money tight = good or pleasing wack = not good Hey that's good Ice. You're well versed. More than me! "Use this tool to control the masses w/guaranteed success: Divide/Conquer =>No Communication cuz we are Divided =>Misunderstanding cuz we don't Communicate =>We can't Agree we only Misunderstand =>Chaos cuz we can't Agree. Chaos-an evil tool indeed!" | |
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SweeTea said: IceNine said: Are these examples really useful, or are they simply a vernacular?
da bomb = good or pleasing bumpin' = good or pleasing bangin' = good or pleasing buggin' = acting improperly in a social situation buck wild = acting crazy phat = good or pleasing boo = friend chillin' = relaxing crib = house lampin' = relaxing cold lampin' = relaxing or hanging around with friends fly = good or pleasing gank = steal hoochie = ghetto tramp hoodrat = ghetto tramp homey = friend frontin' = bullshitting Benjamins = Hundred dollar bills peeps = friends playa = a man who uses women for his own purposes shorty or shorties = attractive women rollin' deep = connected snaps = money tight = good or pleasing wack = not good Hey that's good Ice. You're well versed. More than me!
I don't actually know very many of the phrases or words... I just have a number of friends who speak in that form of slang at times... and I have asked them what they mean by the different words... These same guys can speak perfect English as well though... they don't consider ebonics to be a language. SUPERJOINT RITUAL - http://www.superjointritual.com
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Personally, I wouldn't encourage anyone to speak ebonics, I think the idea of making it a language is stupid..it's just another way of seperating people, particular the races. My only problem is when I hear people speak ebonics when they know they don't speak that way. I truly believe that some people simply can't speak the correct English language the way society expects, and that has nothing to do with their education level, upbringing or literacy skills. _______________________________________________________________________________________ You can hate me for who I am, cuz I won't be something that i'm not. | |
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