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Thread started 10/31/07 7:59am

Mars23

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Boy is responsible for fire in CA.

So if you lost your home or a loved one, what do you want to happen to him?

SANTA CLARITA, Calif. - Officials blamed a wildfire that consumed more than 38,000 acres and destroyed 21 homes last week on a boy playing with matches, and said they would ask a prosecutor to consider the case.

The boy, whose name and age were not released, admitted to sparking the fire on Oct. 21, Los Angeles County sheriff's Sgt. Diane Hecht said Tuesday. Ferocious winds helped it quickly spread.

"He admitted to playing with matches and accidentally starting the fire," Hecht said in a statement.

The boy was released to his parents, and the case will be presented to the district attorney's office, Hecht said. It was not clear if he had been arrested or cited by detectives.

The fire began in an area near Agua Dulce and quickly spread. It was among 15 or so major wildfires that destroyed some 2,100 homes and blackened 809 square miles from Los Angeles to the Mexican border last week. Seven deaths were blamed directly on the fires, six evacuees died of natural causes and one person died of a fall.

Authorities arrested five people for arson during that period, but none have been linked to any of the major blazes.

All but four of the blazes are now fully contained. Firefighters on Wednesday continued to cut lines around the remaining fires and kept a close eye on the weather.

Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Deputy Maribel Rizo said prosecutors were yet to determine if the boy's parents would be held accountable for any financial losses caused by the fire. Rizo did not know when prosecutors would be given the case.

Forecasters have said moderate Santa Ana winds could pick up later in the week.

Investigators have blamed an arsonist for setting a destructive wildfire in Orange County that blackened 28,500 acres and destroyed 16 homes.

Authorities were seeking the driver of a white Ford F-150 pickup truck spotted in a canyon area around the time the fire broke out. They said they wanted to talk to the driver, but stopped short of calling the person a suspect.

Officials offered a $285,000 reward to anyone with information that will lead to an arrest and conviction.
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Reply #1 posted 10/31/07 8:03am

Mach

I am interested in his age 1st ...
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Reply #2 posted 10/31/07 8:09am

Imago

I bet his family owns Pit Bull Terrier's too.
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Reply #3 posted 10/31/07 8:10am

CarrieLee

Tough one. If anything happens it will probably effect his parents and not him....depending on his age.
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Reply #4 posted 10/31/07 8:48pm

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eek playing with matches
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Reply #5 posted 10/31/07 8:53pm

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Reply #6 posted 10/31/07 8:57pm

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Yeah, by all means let's blame a boy playing with matches rather than California's failed fire policy.
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Reply #7 posted 10/31/07 8:58pm

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very sad. which ever way you look at it and regardless of the outcome.

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Reply #8 posted 10/31/07 9:23pm

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luv4u said:

eek playing with matches



Yeah.. lurking I remember I almost burned down my house doing that
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Reply #9 posted 10/31/07 9:30pm

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very sad, could happen to anyone. bad situation sad
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Reply #10 posted 10/31/07 10:24pm

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where were the parents? neutral
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Reply #11 posted 10/31/07 10:31pm

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very sad. which ever way you look at it and regardless of the outcome.
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Reply #12 posted 10/31/07 10:33pm

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EverSoulicious said:

where were the parents? neutral



Yes where were those parents????
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Reply #13 posted 11/01/07 11:38pm

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The boy is 10 eek
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Reply #14 posted 11/01/07 11:54pm

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Jeez, why would you not bring a shit load of water. To snuff it before it gets out of hand. I've played with matches before, and make SURE they're out by spitting on them and running them under water,.....
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Reply #15 posted 11/07/07 12:04pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/t...inthefires

The 10-year-old boy who accidentally started one of the worst California wildfires last month could face stern consequences, should prosecutors decide to bring charges. Though too young to be charged as an adult, the boy could still face millions of dollars in fines, removal from his home and possible detention as a ward of the state. For now the boy's fate - and that of his parents, who would be partially liable for any restitution payments he would have to pay - rests with Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley. His office told TIME he has not yet decided how to proceed. "The matter is under review," spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons told TIME on Monday. "No decision has been made."


To bring those charges, all Cooley must decide is whether the boy knew right from wrong - an easy standard to meet, other prosecutors in the state say. "That is a lot easier to establish than you would think," said Cyndi Jo Means, a deputy district attorney in nearby San Diego County who leads that county's juvenile division arson team. "Think of your own children, even very small children; most of the time they know when they did something wrong."


Despite the low hurdle to prosecution, Means contends the California juvenile justice system seeks to help young suspects, who can benefit from counseling and close supervision from the court and case workers. Children under 14 are nearly always charged as juveniles, not adults - no matter what the crime. "We try to help the child, and prosecuting them as adults would not be very helpful," Means said. Any finding of guilt, she added, would not follow the boy into adulthood.


Southern Californians are still sorting through the wreckage from the fires, which burned more than 800 square miles - an area 40 times as large as Manhattan - and destroyed some 2,100 homes. The 10-year-old's carelessness sparked the Buckweed fire in Los Angeles County, which destroyed 21 homes and injured at least three people. Those losses have left some residents in a less than forgiving mood. "If you accidentally set a massive fire that destroys homes, cause residents to flee for their lives and requires millions of dollars in resources to extinguish, then you damn well need to pay the piper," wrote Dave Bossert on his online newspaper, The West Ranch Beacon.


Peter Arenella, a professor at the UCLA Law School said any prosecution of a 10-year-old that aims to punish the boy, rather than help him, "is an absurdity. The only justification for that would be if, in some extreme case, there was a need to protect society from him." Barring that, he said, prosecutors should be reluctant to sweep the boy up into the legal system.


It's hard to see how stern consequences - taking the boy from his parents, for instance, and handing down a multi-million fine - would be helpful to the 10-year-old. Much of the decision of whether to prosecute him rests with Cooley, who like prosecutors everywhere has a great deal of discretion. Unless uglier details about the boy's behavior are discovered, he could decide that in this case playing with matches doesn't rise the level of arson - even if the boy admits he knew that doing so was wrong. As Means points out, children almost always admit they knew their actions were wrong when they are questioned by police or prosecutors, which can be a scary experience for a kid.


When the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the death penalty for inmates who were under 18 when they committed their crimes, it argued that teenagers' brains are not fully formed until they are grown, and that punishing them as adults was therefore cruel and unusual. No one is saying a 10-year-old boy ought to be executed for setting a fire, but even the lesser punishment the boy is facing could be nearly as cruel. That has led some to argue that the bar for prosecution ought to be higher than simply proving that he knew right from wrong. Boys know lots of things are wrong - from ignoring bedtimes to eating too many cookies. A better standard, some argue, would be determining whether the boy, at 10, had any way of knowing the consequences of what he was doing with those matches. With reporting by Jill Underwood/San Diego
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Reply #16 posted 11/07/07 12:10pm

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this is really sad.
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Reply #17 posted 11/07/07 12:31pm

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Make sure he is monitored round the clock so he doesn't grow up and become one of these male psycho adults who do this crap for kicks. Get that kid in therapy and wash his brains of any inclinations to become an arsonist.
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Reply #18 posted 11/07/07 1:10pm

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How do you "play with matches"? I was a kid once, and I played with a lot of things. I don't know of any games you can play with matches.
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