I decided to let my son watch American network cartoons today so I turned on Veggie Tales and while watching it I started getting the feeling that there were some religious undertones in the story and then suddenly they full out start singing about the bible and shit.

Wtf?



I immediately didn't want my son watching it anymore but he really seems to like it, so I guess Saturday mornings will be God Songs Day at my place.

Phew...thought this meant you didn't eat meat anymore

mdiver said:

Fish, chicken and turkey will never be safe in my presence.

JustErin said:

Good work keep the faith sister

It's not only annoying, it's just plain scary. I haven't heard any specific references to God or Jesus, but they do point out the Bible often. I wonder how they get around being censored, but its disturbing none the less. As always, fundamentalist Christian groups here in the states will point out that virtuous values we hold dear have their roots in the Bible, so why should it not be permitted? I argue such values should stem from common sense and decency, of which America has much to learn lately.
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The Telly-Tubbies were all athiests..well apart from the one
with the handbag he was agnostic.

gotanproject said:

They definitely said something about God in this one - just before their little song. The episode was a weird story about idol worship - a giant chocolate bunny.

Weird stuff.

The Bible!!!!

I can only pray you turned it off soon enough and that he isn't traumatized for life

gotanproject said:

why would they be censored?

The carrot crucifixion gave that away eh?

How old is your son, and does he understand the religious undertones ?

Technically,
when Jesus was in his grave after being crucified & right before rising up again,
he really wasn't dead.
He was a vegetable.

JustErin said:

we had a BBQ at the inlaws, and a full on christian couple brought vegie tales videos and my kids had to watch it

Illustrator said:

KoolEaze said:

No, he's only 2. That's why I was ok with him watching this one time. I won't turn it on again but if he sees it's on and asks to watch it, I'll let him watch it....for now.

Yes they are on the CHRISTIAN BROADCAST NETWORK!

wlcm2thdwn said:

And a major American network...NBC - that's where I saw them. I would never, ever allow my son to watch the Christian Broadcast Network just as he is also not allowed to watch anything with violence or sexual content.

How you choose to raise your children is your business. I'm not knocking your choices. Let me say that at the outset.

Yet, many of the popular cartoons out today are quite blatant in their promotion of sorcery, the Tarot and other forms of witchcraft.

Why is there no revulsion or outrage concerning what clearly are other forms of belief systems on regular network TV programming directed at children?

I find it quite interesting that the opposition comes out when storylines revolve around the promotion of biblical principles but not with cartoons that promote sorcery.

They're both belief systems to which people can choose to adhere. Why can't they have equal accessibility within the marketplace?

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ThreadBare said:

Not the ones my son is allowed to watch.

And wait a sec.

You mean cartoons where the cast has super powers and stuff or talking animals and things like that?

That's "witchcraft"?

Veggie Tales are a christian based show. The tapes and dvds are sold in christain book stores. I prefer it to show that are about nothing except bombs and fighting. Having kids learn to think about other people's feeling, and lying is bad, is not something I will object to. I

make sure to keep your kid away from Star Wars (bible elements), Narnia (christian undertones), various Disney cartoons which spin bible stories (like the mickey and the goliath short) and the classic looney tunes cartoons that promoted racism, misogyny, violence and homosexuality.

sosgemini said:

Actually, I have no problems with story lines that are based around being kind to others, being good, consequences for one's actions, etc. That's basic common decency - which is something that I teach my son and that has nothing to do with religion. It's direct references that I have a problem with.

My son does not watch any shows with fighting or violence at all - which these bible stories are full of.

you mean a fuckin' tomato is going to heaven and I aint???

roodboi said:

ThreadBare said:

SOSGemini said:



The difference between these other programs is that they never make any claims to reality. No-one ever claimed Harry Potter or Pokemon to be real, but the stories presented in Veggie Tales will be claimed as true by a large section of the populace. Perhaps not in the sense of walking, talking vegetables, but certainly the content. If anything as a child, if I found out one story was "true" I would begin to lend credibility to the others I saw, in a sense making Veggie Tales a more dangerous tool for promoting the "occult" than the other cartoons mentioned.

While I certainly do not promote the censorship of religious programs, they have their place and veggie tales is a sneaky way to get a religious program on a major network where many parents won't even realize what is being presented.
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They sneak it in there, sometimes they sing about the bible and other times about random things like lips, and now you know.
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I love the Veggie Tales. I first heard about it back in 97. It is a Christian kid's program or at least that is how they started. They toned down the religion considerably since they started airing on regular television.
I think it teaches kids good life lessons on a level they can understand. Don't lie. Don't give in to peer pressure. Listen to your parents.
I believe in God so I don't have a problem w/ the religious stuff. Plus a lot the ones I have on DVD are pretty funny.