KoolEaze said:

It's still sold in the US. I can't find anything that says it's bad.....I'll keep looking. All the articles state it has positive effects, including for cancer patients.

The only thing i could find is:http://www.enotalone.com/article/7750.html

What About Baking Soda?

In the late 1970s and early '80s an oral hygiene program known as the Keyes Technique was widely promoted in the United States. Aimed at combatting plaque-related periodontal diseases, the program included not only such conventional advice as frequent professional cleanings, but also the recommendation that patients apply to their gums and brush their teeth with a mixture of salt, hydrogen peroxide, and baking soda.

Laboratory studies showing these agents had some effectiveness against harmful bacteria were the principal basis for this recommendation. But critics pointed out that what worked in the laboratory didn't always work in the mouth. A study by the technique's proponents showed some effectiveness in humans. However, it lacked a control group, so it was impossible to say how the technique compared to more traditional methods of oral hygiene. Furthermore, the subjects in this study had been liberally treated with antibiotics, so it wasn't known if the benefits they had experienced were actually due to the baking soda brushing regimen.

To resolve these issues, dental researchers at the University of Minnesota, led by Larry Wolff, Ph.D., D.D.S., conducted a four-year study involving 171 adults with moderate periodontitis. The study's design enabled the researchers to compare the effectiveness of a baking soda, salt, and hydrogen peroxide mixture with that of ordinary toothpaste. The results, published in the January 1989 Journal of the American Dental Association, showed that while the baking soda mixture did help in the maintenance of oral health it was no more effective than ordinary toothpaste.

Wolff and his colleagues also found that, compared to the patients using ordinary toothpaste, those using the baking soda regimen were three times as likely to stop following their oral hygiene program because it was inconvenient. Overall, they said, there was no evidence that a baking soda brushing regimen "will contribute more toward periodontal health than use of a commercial toothpaste, a toothbrush, and dental floss."
[Edited 10/19/07 21:46pm]

the only thing I have heard about baking soda is that you should not use too much of it at once. Other than that I have not heard anything bad about it.

horatio said:

Melaleuca is good in my opinion!

You need to sign up with a membership and you buy direct sent to you via mail. The only thing about it is you need to make monthly purchases for a certain amount of 'points' - roughly about $60 a month. That left me with tons of toothpaste, shampoos, etc every month because I couldn't use them all up!

There is also a marketing side to it where you can refer others to become customers and you earn cash on the side which some people make a living off of this. Personally I'm not one to market to others and it was time consuming!

Heiress said:

I've also read somewhere that you can use lemons to make dishwashing soap. The technique used is boiling them. I never tried it but there is probably a recipie floating around somewhere!

And there are other common foods you can use to make beauty products for your personal use. I love to read those books because they are so interesting.

Okay, one more thing, there was a book once on 100's of uses for olive oil. 1 tablespoon a day in the morning will help with healthy digestion and if a person is, with constipation. There was also a recipe for a hot oil treatment that you use with raw egg. Plus, in this book you can use it for so many other uses around the house that you never thought of.

Imago said:[quote]From: http://www.uml.edu/Media/...'t_al.html

A key ingredient of Simple Green is butyl cellosolve, a substance considered toxic by the federal Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. In lab tests, the liquid has destroyed red blood cells and caused minor birth defects in animals. When absorbed through the skin or inhaled, it has caused irritation around the eyes and noses of humans and headaches.[quote]



An ingredient found in ice cream is formaldahyde, which is also used to embalm a corpse in order to preserve it. Formaldahyde can also be found in some women's cosmetics - makeup.

Scary thought, that we can absorb chemicals in through our skin, what about makeup?

Imago said:

That reminds me of what I saw today on the label of "Off" bug repellent and thought that weird, in large letters it said something to the effect, 'Mosquitos carry West Nile Virus'. If that's not a scare tactic...

Imago said:

Last post on this subject:

In the stores people look for products and soaps with the saying "kills 99.9% of germs" hoping that it will eliminate all the germs, but there are only some germs that are bad and make you sick.

vagabandit said:

mm yes, absolutely all you said and then some! olive oil is good for everything... hair and skin too. and wood polish.

something i forgot about... indian soap nuts! you wash your clothes with them, then boil them down for the rest of the soap (use it for washing the floor, your hair, or whatever) then at the end, the hulls can be composted. no waste!

Heiress said:

Can you grow these in your backyard...I wonder.

We ARE being poisoned! Look at the evidence on the use of fluoride in municipal (tap) water and the history of fluoride in general:

http://thyroid.about.com/...ouride.htm

http://fluoridealert.org/

http://www.fluoridedanger...gspot.com/

http://www.water-filter-b...oride.html

http://humanrights.suite1...f_flouride

http://www.mbschachter.co...uorida.htm

http://www.associatedcont...ride_.html

It's all a consiracy, I tell you! You can't even drink household water any more! I'm thinking of moving to another planet soon, so if you happen to have any extra moving boxes...

vagabandit said:

Right, and the remaining .1% are the mightiest of the bacterial lot, so what you've done is selectively bred yourself a batch of disinfectant-resistant bacteria.
Our culture has gone batshit crazy about this stuff. We're so affluent, so healthy. . . we have SO MUCH compared to most human beings who have ever lived. . . .and so, of course, we live in fear of losing it.

"Chemicals are bad! Wait, nature is bad too! IT'S ALL BAD!
EVERYTHING IS TRYING TO KILL US! Most of all, US! AAKK!

Has somebody made a web page about this? Could I buy something from them that will save me from Everything? "



Stop it, Crazy People! Just stop! You're gonna die! Until then, LIVE!

HereToRockYourWorld said:

Exactly, that's why I don't like to buy that stuff. Speaking of breeding supergerms and all, I try not to take penicillin because that breeds super resistant (uh, brain fart - what's that word)...stuff too.

I always thing of the Borg from Star Trek when I think of supergerms...

Because they always find a way to adapt to the threat and come back stronger and resistant to the same type of attacks!

...that's jus me...

vagabandit said:

I usually buy Breyer's ice-cream. No formaldahde or any other chemicals in it.

However, as a kid, I used to eat Maraschino cherries like candy.

I stopped when I was old enough to read that formaldehyde gives them that "unique" flavor.

What about crack cocaine? One week they say it's good for you, next it's bad. It's always something.

vagabandit said:

they grow on a tree. i suppose in the right climate, you could...

My best friend introduced Simply Green to my mother and they love it, they swear by it. Personally I use the tried and true products...Lysol, Comet, Pine Sol, Bleach and Murphy Oil soap on my hardwood floors. I use baking soda in my fridge and drains with a little bit of vinager.

DexMSR said:

my girlfreind sells this stuff too. seems to work good. i buy all natural stuff anyway just because i am allergic to fragranced anything and there are som meny chemicals that make me sneezy!

OMG


You folks aren't jacking my thread


This is a motherfucking first



Anyways, This is good: http://www.aroma-essence....aning.html


I've been using essential oils for about a week now , and I've used the in homemade cleanng soluations (water, vinegar, essential oils), and it's amazing how little you need to use of the oils.

Just a few drops goes a long way in deoderizing, refreshing, disinfecting, and cleaning. At first I was sort of stunned at how pricey they seemed (6 to 25 bucks per 1-to-3 ounce bottle), but I realized that each bottle stretches for ever in use cause you only need tiny drops of each scent to accomplish what you need cause they are so concentrated.

And best of all, they are natural, non-toxic, and awesome.

I'm seriously throwing out all my chemical cleaners and going natural. There's no other way now. It's almost as fun as swapping to MAC.




I'm such a bitch.

cleaning? fun?



dirt = good

ZombieKitten said:

You're the only one brave enough to post pictures of a dirty room in your house though!

The rest of the org consist of insane cleaning fanatics! It's scary!

OMG, Eucalyptus, Lavender, and Orange smell great when diffused together




lawd. I'm going to bed now. This is too geeky.

Imago said:

There go my allergies!

Imago said:

that room is not so bad now! I turned it into the kids computer room more dusty than dirty.

Here's the solution: STOP CLEANING! AMERICA, PUT DOWN THE SPONGES! HOw is anyone's immune system ever going to get any practice if they kill every germ in a 50 block radius?
[Edited 10/21/07 22:41pm]

Imago said:

Hi, ya fuckin' hippie!

Eucalyptus and lavender are my FAV combo of essential oils.

Lavender and sandalwood are great too.

And jasmine-vanilla.

VANILLA-SANDALWOOD.

Ok. . .

HereToRockYourWorld said:

shanti0608 said:

Well, wouldn't you know. CNN must be lurking and paying attention to Prince.org again, cause they just posted this article:


http://www.cnn.com/2007/T...index.html


scary.


Yeah, I'm so trendy and shit!

'so what has changed? All the chemicals we are being exposed to.'


so who is at fault for the rate that adults and children are getting cancers.
who should pay those bills for treatment?