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When Pigs Fly: The Death of Oink, the Birth of Dissent, and a Brief History of Record Industry Suicide. http://www.demonbaby.com/...th-of.html
Possibly the most correct, interesting and realistic view on the current state of Music I have ever read. I recommend you spend some time reading it, and let's discuss it. | |
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i want oink legalized now and i never used it. he's completely right, especially about how we only have to wait to see what comes up that's newer and better. 10-15 years and record companies will be effectively in the ground, i'm guessing.
and holy christ ben, speed of pain is wretched. | |
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Very well thought out article. My biggest fear when the RIAA first started serving notice to filesharers was that the online community could be bullied into compliance. Clearly that's not been the case. And it seems that what the writer states in true: the current industry model will be forced to change. What remains to be seen is whether they'll stop the bullying long enough to figure out how to make money off of it. | |
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evenstar said: i want oink legalized now and i never used it. he's completely right, especially about how we only have to wait to see what comes up that's newer and better. 10-15 years and record companies will be effectively in the ground, i'm guessing.
and holy christ ben, speed of pain is wretched. wow...you do like him...you read that | |
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shanti0608 said: evenstar said: i want oink legalized now and i never used it. he's completely right, especially about how we only have to wait to see what comes up that's newer and better. 10-15 years and record companies will be effectively in the ground, i'm guessing.
and holy christ ben, speed of pain is wretched. wow...you do like him...you read that well, yeah. i would've read it out of nin geekiness anyway though. | |
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evenstar said: shanti0608 said: wow...you do like him...you read that well, yeah. i would've read it out of nin geekiness anyway though. Oh... ok then.... | |
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Ben, there's a free movie you can watch about record shop closing
http://www.jerseyrain.com...indows.htm | |
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Great article, especially about how good Oink was (even though I never heard of it until I read reports that it was being shut down). BTW, there's supposed to be a torrent site called Boink which is supposed to replace Oink, but I have no clue where it is.
Anyway, I looked around the other blog posts, and I didn't realize that Jessica Simpson was struggling so much these days that she has to resort to turning tricks in Russia. | |
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violator said: Very well thought out article. My biggest fear when the RIAA first started serving notice to filesharers was that the online community could be bullied into compliance. Clearly that's not been the case. And it seems that what the writer states in true: the current industry model will be forced to change. What remains to be seen is whether they'll stop the bullying long enough to figure out how to make money off of it.
Exactly. His idea of the labels just buying out OiNK together and charging a small monthly fee was right on the money. The largest music collection ever in existence at the highest quality, and totally legal. | |
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Ben -
I still buy CDs and I actually printed out that article to read. | |
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I personally haven't bought a CD for a long while. Ironic in the sense in that was where the majority of my money used to go. I just think it's the expense of CDs, particularly here in the UK, which is a problem to a great extent. You'd be a fool to splash out when you can download it for free and stick the MP3s onto CD if necessary. There's Joy In Expatriation. | |
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Yknow I had an mp3 playing device in like 2000, and I just didn't like that experience as much. | |
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Cinnie said: Ben -
I still buy CDs and I actually printed out that article to read. It's a good article, non? My dad sent it to some bankers who have invested interest in the music industry. | |
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Recording Artists are leaving the major labels in droves. They are using the smaller studios where they have much greater control over their final production. As their contracts with the big labels expire, they are not renewing them.
There are a lot of Indie labels out there that deserve support. To say we should all steal the music is only going to hurt the musicians and the consumers in the end. What are musicians supposed to do when they're screwed at one end by the recording companies and then by the fans who want everything for free. It isn'r free for the musicians, the costs to record a professional demo starts at $1000 at an Indie studio. That's just the technical fees. There's also other expenses that add up fast. A one song demo can easily end up being $10,000 or more out of the Artist's pockets. Absolutely nothing is free. Did you know that most musicians have to pay to get into their own concert venues? Those "free" tickets that get handed out are paid for by the musicians. Promos? Same thing. Think they can do it at a home studio? Maybe, but unless it's something really ooutstanding, you're not going to be able to market it to enough people make it worth bothering. Just try to get it out to the masses. I'm not sure of the long term answer to this problem, but for now musicians are banding together behind the scenes and working out their own solutions. I've heard some very creative ideas being floated about. It'll be interesting though. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
Pain is something to carry, like a radio...You should stand up for your right to feel your pain- Jim Morrison | |
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benyamin said: Cinnie said: Ben -
I still buy CDs and I actually printed out that article to read. It's a good article, non? My dad sent it to some bankers who have invested interest in the music industry. yeah! It perfectly states where we are in 2007. | |
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artists can only make money now from touring and live shows concert tickets have to be so expensive just for bands to make a living. I've got a friend organising a local music festival, and she needs a couple of drawcards, but they don't have the budget to get a known band out there. | |
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ZombieKitten said: artists can only make money now from touring and live shows concert tickets have to be so expensive just for bands to make a living. I've got a friend organising a local music festival, and she needs a couple of drawcards, but they don't have the budget to get a known band out there.
Can they find some sponsors? We have a lot of concerts here that are sponsored by banks, local businesses and beer companies. It's really hard for new artists just trying to break into the big time. There's a line between trying to get the music out to the people and being able to live while you're doing it that's hard to balance. I think musicians helping musicians is the future. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
Pain is something to carry, like a radio...You should stand up for your right to feel your pain- Jim Morrison | |
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shellyevon said: ZombieKitten said: artists can only make money now from touring and live shows concert tickets have to be so expensive just for bands to make a living. I've got a friend organising a local music festival, and she needs a couple of drawcards, but they don't have the budget to get a known band out there.
Can they find some sponsors? We have a lot of concerts here that are sponsored by banks, local businesses and beer companies. It's really hard for new artists just trying to break into the big time. There's a line between trying to get the music out to the people and being able to live while you're doing it that's hard to balance. I think musicians helping musicians is the future. It's a small country town, everyone is already sponsors - even me! | |
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ZombieKitten said: shellyevon said: Can they find some sponsors? We have a lot of concerts here that are sponsored by banks, local businesses and beer companies. It's really hard for new artists just trying to break into the big time. There's a line between trying to get the music out to the people and being able to live while you're doing it that's hard to balance. I think musicians helping musicians is the future. It's a small country town, everyone is already sponsors - even me! She should go with what ever she can get and promote it as much as possible. The first one might be small but as word gets around it just might grow into a large festival. It's worth a shot anyway "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
Pain is something to carry, like a radio...You should stand up for your right to feel your pain- Jim Morrison | |
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