JoeTyler said: Pitbulls are the dogs of Satan; you can see their madness and their pure evil while looking at their eyes...beasts...
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Animals react with instinct and they react by protecting themselves.
I was brought up to respect animals and never to fear them. I have been around all breeds of dogs in my life..I have never been afraid of one- no matter how big or how bad the breed has been bad mouthed. Adults need to teach their children how to interact with animals especially dogs. I cannot tell you how many times I have had young kids run up to one of my dogs screaming and grabbing at it. If my dog had felt fearful and tried to protect itself it would have been put down if it had bitten one of those kids. I always tell kids how to react and behave around an animal- stay calm, let it smell you, do not try to reach out and touch it until you know if it is friendly. We could learn a lot from animals but we chose not to..we chose to just let fear guide us. | |
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shanti0608 said: It is a shame that humans have given this breed a bad name...
typical really. I had an Australian Cattle Dog that had fear aggression. He bite someone when they walked through our yard - luckily just nipped him on the back of his calf but we could not trust him. Whenever he felt fearful and felt threatened he could strike just to protect himself. My mom has had several Rotties and lost her homeowners insurance just because they found out the breed of dog she had. None of hers had ever been aggressive towards anyone or anything. I will say this again..humans scare me more than any animal ever could. Cattle Dogs Our Cattle dog is very protective of us. It's her job in life to keep us safe and happy. She'd bite anyone who tried anything bad around us. She's not adverse to a little ankle nipping if someone isn't walking fast enough to suit her. She's going a little blind now so she's a little more skittish. Igo has Rotties and Dobies. Most are trained guard dogs and have very little human contact except with the dog handler. I would not like to be on their wrong side. The ones who live in the house are pets and look intimidating but are really sweet. His Ralphie is a retired guard dog who is a complete sweetheart. Our Cattle dog gets along well with all of them. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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mdiver said: Graycap23 said: Co-sign. Now that is science in action..... Ok now, it is strictly MHO that a whole lot of just pure punks own these dogs to look intimidating to others. Why else would anyone want one? They've got big fat ol' heads, they're not very attractive. The lady who died? I bet she had a punk in her life. She raised them correctly and they still killed her. | |
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gemini13 said: mdiver said: Now that is science in action..... Ok now, it is strictly MHO that a whole lot of just pure punks own these dogs to look intimidating to others. Why else would anyone want one? They've got big fat ol' heads, they're not very attractive. The lady who died? I bet she had a punk in her life. She raised them correctly and they still killed her. I think they're lovely and they feel like velvet when you pet them. I think all dags should be treated with respect. Any dog can snap. I'm more leary of Golden Retrievers than I am Pitties. Can't trust them either. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: gemini13 said: Ok now, it is strictly MHO that a whole lot of just pure punks own these dogs to look intimidating to others. Why else would anyone want one? They've got big fat ol' heads, they're not very attractive. The lady who died? I bet she had a punk in her life. She raised them correctly and they still killed her. I think they're lovely and they feel like velvet when you pet them. I think all dags should be treated with respect. Any dog can snap. I'm more leary of Golden Retrievers than I am Pitties. Can't trust them either. im sure you dont worry about them killing you or someone else. | |
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shellyevon said: gemini13 said: Ok now, it is strictly MHO that a whole lot of just pure punks own these dogs to look intimidating to others. Why else would anyone want one? They've got big fat ol' heads, they're not very attractive. The lady who died? I bet she had a punk in her life. She raised them correctly and they still killed her. I think they're lovely and they feel like velvet when you pet them. I think all dags should be treated with respect. Any dog can snap. I'm more leary of Golden Retrievers than I am Pitties. Can't trust them either. springer spaniels can also go into rages. i understand why people are wary of pitbulls and i think that there is good reason for it but i can't agree with people who think that this breed is the root of all evil. it's just not true. | |
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horatio said: shellyevon said: I think they're lovely and they feel like velvet when you pet them. I think all dags should be treated with respect. Any dog can snap. I'm more leary of Golden Retrievers than I am Pitties. Can't trust them either. im sure you dont worry about them killing you or someone else. I know someone who had her face almost ripped off by a Golden. She had to have several surgeries to repair the damage. A neighbor's family pet that she knew for years.. It's up to the owner to make sure their dogs don't harm anyone. I never walk up to a strange dog without asking the owner first, no matter what the breed. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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mdiver said: JoeTyler said: Actually, I have; not so long ago, I was 17 and one of those motherfuckers started to brak me with no reason; his eyes were creepy, the eyes of a mad beast; I bet the owner was as crazy as the "dog": he SMILED at the situation Then that is the fault of the OWNER not the dog....i am willing to be you have had run ins with HUMANS before but i dont hear you saying "all humans are assholes" ..think before you speak. Having said that you state not so long ago and you were 17 then....so i guess it fits. Define PURE EVIL..i see you edited and posted pics...i dont see your logic..you just seem like anything you dont like is evil [Edited 10/6/07 6:27am] 1.First of all, don't use that arrogant/assertive tone with me; I don't like/I don't deserve it; thanks 2.I'm 23 now 3.I don't want to talk with you about this anymore; you're a Pitbull lover, ok; but that can't erase the fact that there have been a lot of research which proves that Pitbulls are extremely agressive dogs by nature (and can be a potential danger for humans, as snakes or cocodriles are) and a rash owner only amplify that fact. 4.You should click to this link, and you may find, Mr.Assertive, how dangerous Pitbulls are. http://aussie_news_views....lub_c.html [Edited 10/6/07 7:31am] | |
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horatio said: JoeTyler said: Actually, I have; not so long ago, I was 17 and one of those motherfuckers started to brak me with no reason; his eyes were creepy, the eyes of a mad beast; I bet the owner was as crazy as the "dog": he SMILED at the situation i know what you mean by those eyes, when thier pupils are dialted some humans do the same thing when they have a screw loose, and its creepy I was in REAL, IMMINENT danger | |
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It is stupid to blame the breed as a whole and not just the individual dog.
Any breed any age any time can turn and attack. Cats have even been known to attck people also. There may not be a seen reason and the animal may have been well trained but that doesn't mean the animal didn't have a reason. People that talk bad about certen breeds because of storys like these are plainly ignorant. You hate me I hate you so go fall in ditch | |
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emocheerleader said: It is stupid to blame the breed as a whole and not just the individual dog.
Any breed any age any time can turn and attack. Cats have even been known to attck people also. There may not be a seen reason and the animal may have been well trained but that doesn't mean the animal didn't have a reason. People that talk bad about certen breeds because of storys like these are plainly ignorant. its about a breed that has consistantly been showen to KILL or bring someone to the brink of death . not a just a bite or a scratch | |
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Lots of breeds have been consistantly shown to kill or attack (which what you said is what I ment by attack)
It wasn't all that long ago that people were saying the same thing towards Rottweillers and Doberman Pinches. Along with Golden Retrievers and Dalmatians. People say that Newfoundlands are one of the sweetest breeds and that they don't have a single aggressive or mean bone in their bodys but I have known a few to kill. My thing is why go after one group for an individual action. It is not every single pit attacking when just one is doing the attack You hate me I hate you so go fall in ditch | |
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Cugo wasn't a pitbull. And if a fictional story can't prove a point, nothing can! My Legacy
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NDRU said: Cugo wasn't a pitbull. And if a fictional story can't prove a point, nothing can!
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NDRU said: Any dog can be dangerous. But pitbulls, with their reputation, get adopted by people who want vicious dogs, and when a dog is encouraged to be vicious it will be.
But even my brother's mellow lab could have been dangerous if he hadn't been trained. But keep in mind the only dog that really bit me was a dauchhound (sp?). I think little dogs are much meaner. I can attest to that. Got chased and almost bitten by TWO chihuahas (is that how you spell it?) | |
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NuPwr319 said: NDRU said: Any dog can be dangerous. But pitbulls, with their reputation, get adopted by people who want vicious dogs, and when a dog is encouraged to be vicious it will be.
But even my brother's mellow lab could have been dangerous if he hadn't been trained. But keep in mind the only dog that really bit me was a dauchhound (sp?). I think little dogs are much meaner. I can attest to that. Got chased and almost bitten by TWO chihuahas (is that how you spell it?) the only thing a dauchund ever did to me was hump my leg | |
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She was probably asking for it. Good! Bad! Damn! Bitchy! | |
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INSATIABLE said: PANDURITO said: That would be as stupid as having 2 pitbulls I don't know why I'm amazed that people require no more than trite, low-grade AP wire "news" to determine "truths" regarding their entire world. If anyone is questioning my compassion for the family and victims here, they're braindead. But the stories of less "frightening" breeds mauling humans receive nowhere near the publicity as these. Dogs can be vicious animals, absolutely. Pit bulls can and will kill--it's been in the limelight for a long time. But so can other dogs. For people to think that all pits are ferocious is sad. It would just be nice if the repeatedly horrified public would open up their minds a tiny bit. The problem isn't the pitbulls, it's the jackass humans who want to own them. Too many people fall in love with the idea of a particular breed and so rush out to purchase a purebred pup without having even the faintest grasp of the kind of care and attention they require to be manageable and sociable. Fact is, breeds like pitbulls were originally bred to kill. You can have them as pets, but you can't forget what their ancestors were designed for. Dog breeds don't need to be outlawed, but IMO potential pet owners should be made to prove they understand what they're getting into when deciding to take in bully breeds, jack russel terriers, dalmations, chihuahuas, or any other "high-need" breed. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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NDRU said: Any dog can be dangerous. But pitbulls, with their reputation, get adopted by people who want vicious dogs, and when a dog is encouraged to be vicious it will be.
But even my brother's mellow lab could have been dangerous if he hadn't been trained. But keep in mind the only dog that really bit me was a dauchhound (sp?). I think little dogs are much meaner. I don't think it's that they're any meaner or more vicious than bigger dogs, it's just that small dogs are allowed to get away with more, i.e. nipping, barking, etc. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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meow85 said: INSATIABLE said: I don't know why I'm amazed that people require no more than trite, low-grade AP wire "news" to determine "truths" regarding their entire world. If anyone is questioning my compassion for the family and victims here, they're braindead. But the stories of less "frightening" breeds mauling humans receive nowhere near the publicity as these. Dogs can be vicious animals, absolutely. Pit bulls can and will kill--it's been in the limelight for a long time. But so can other dogs. For people to think that all pits are ferocious is sad. It would just be nice if the repeatedly horrified public would open up their minds a tiny bit. The problem isn't the pitbulls, it's the jackass humans who want to own them. Too many people fall in love with the idea of a particular breed and so rush out to purchase a purebred pup without having even the faintest grasp of the kind of care and attention they require to be manageable and sociable. Fact is, breeds like pitbulls were originally bred to kill. You can have them as pets, but you can't forget what their ancestors were designed for. Dog breeds don't need to be outlawed, but IMO potential pet owners should be made to prove they understand what they're getting into when deciding to take in bully breeds, jack russel terriers, dalmations, chihuahuas, or any other "high-need" breed. You should start threads more often. Your topics are always interesting (except when they have to do with Buffy the vampire slayer) and you're a good thread host. Okay, get to it! | |
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retina said: meow85 said: The problem isn't the pitbulls, it's the jackass humans who want to own them. Too many people fall in love with the idea of a particular breed and so rush out to purchase a purebred pup without having even the faintest grasp of the kind of care and attention they require to be manageable and sociable. Fact is, breeds like pitbulls were originally bred to kill. You can have them as pets, but you can't forget what their ancestors were designed for. Dog breeds don't need to be outlawed, but IMO potential pet owners should be made to prove they understand what they're getting into when deciding to take in bully breeds, jack russel terriers, dalmations, chihuahuas, or any other "high-need" breed. You should start threads more often. Your topics are always interesting (except when they have to do with Buffy the vampire slayer) and you're a good thread host. Okay, get to it! Thanks. That thread'll have to wait though. I just realized it's close to 5 am and I've not been to bed yet. Explains why the screen's getting harder to read though. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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JoeTyler said: mdiver said: Then that is the fault of the OWNER not the dog....i am willing to be you have had run ins with HUMANS before but i dont hear you saying "all humans are assholes" ..think before you speak. Having said that you state not so long ago and you were 17 then....so i guess it fits. Define PURE EVIL..i see you edited and posted pics...i dont see your logic..you just seem like anything you dont like is evil [Edited 10/6/07 6:27am] 1.First of all, don't use that arrogant/assertive tone with me; I don't like/I don't deserve it; thanks 2.I'm 23 now 3.I don't want to talk with you about this anymore; you're a Pitbull lover, ok; but that can't erase the fact that there have been a lot of research which proves that Pitbulls are extremely agressive dogs by nature (and can be a potential danger for humans, as snakes or cocodriles are) and a rash owner only amplify that fact. 4.You should click to this link, and you may find, Mr.Assertive, how dangerous Pitbulls are. http://aussie_news_views....lub_c.html [Edited 10/6/07 7:31am] Actually i am not a pitbull lover in fact i have never owned one or in fact my own dog,pretty much the only dog i have ever got close to is my g/f's mini schnauzer who i miss terribly however what i do hate is judgemental people with only the knowledge they gain from the sensationalised news stories and when the crapped themselves after being barked at. People that judge so fast are far more dangerous that any dog.I have researched much on these dogs as some friends of mine own them and there is just as much pro propaganda as anti propagand if you want to find it.....looking at both gives you balance as opposed to jumping to conclusions.....much as you did about me.....see how it works? | |
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shellyevon said: shanti0608 said: It is a shame that humans have given this breed a bad name...
typical really. I had an Australian Cattle Dog that had fear aggression. He bite someone when they walked through our yard - luckily just nipped him on the back of his calf but we could not trust him. Whenever he felt fearful and felt threatened he could strike just to protect himself. My mom has had several Rotties and lost her homeowners insurance just because they found out the breed of dog she had. None of hers had ever been aggressive towards anyone or anything. I will say this again..humans scare me more than any animal ever could. Cattle Dogs Our Cattle dog is very protective of us. It's her job in life to keep us safe and happy. She'd bite anyone who tried anything bad around us. She's not adverse to a little ankle nipping if someone isn't walking fast enough to suit her. She's going a little blind now so she's a little more skittish. Igo has Rotties and Dobies. Most are trained guard dogs and have very little human contact except with the dog handler. I would not like to be on their wrong side. The ones who live in the house are pets and look intimidating but are really sweet. His Ralphie is a retired guard dog who is a complete sweetheart. Our Cattle dog gets along well with all of them. ACD's I will have another one someday | |
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shanti0608 said: shellyevon said: Cattle Dogs Our Cattle dog is very protective of us. It's her job in life to keep us safe and happy. She'd bite anyone who tried anything bad around us. She's not adverse to a little ankle nipping if someone isn't walking fast enough to suit her. She's going a little blind now so she's a little more skittish. Igo has Rotties and Dobies. Most are trained guard dogs and have very little human contact except with the dog handler. I would not like to be on their wrong side. The ones who live in the house are pets and look intimidating but are really sweet. His Ralphie is a retired guard dog who is a complete sweetheart. Our Cattle dog gets along well with all of them. ACD's I will have another one someday I hope you do, it takes a special type of person to understand ACDs. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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shellyevon said: shanti0608 said: ACD's I will have another one someday I hope you do, it takes a special type of person to understand ACDs. Here's a pic of the 2 that I had. Kasey & Tanner | |
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shanti0608 said: shellyevon said: I hope you do, it takes a special type of person to understand ACDs. Here's a pic of the 2 that I had. Kasey & Tanner Reddies!! They are perfectly beautiful. Here's Steller when she was a pup She's a bluie. "Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind"-Dr Seuss
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meow85 said: NDRU said: Any dog can be dangerous. But pitbulls, with their reputation, get adopted by people who want vicious dogs, and when a dog is encouraged to be vicious it will be.
But even my brother's mellow lab could have been dangerous if he hadn't been trained. But keep in mind the only dog that really bit me was a dauchhound (sp?). I think little dogs are much meaner. I don't think it's that they're any meaner or more vicious than bigger dogs, it's just that small dogs are allowed to get away with more, i.e. nipping, barking, etc. That could be true. People don't think they're dangerous, and people with little dogs tend to treat them like babies more than dogs, and spoil them & let them do whatever they want! Not that I'm stereotyping or anything My Legacy
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shanti0608 said: shellyevon said: Cattle Dogs Our Cattle dog is very protective of us. It's her job in life to keep us safe and happy. She'd bite anyone who tried anything bad around us. She's not adverse to a little ankle nipping if someone isn't walking fast enough to suit her. She's going a little blind now so she's a little more skittish. Igo has Rotties and Dobies. Most are trained guard dogs and have very little human contact except with the dog handler. I would not like to be on their wrong side. The ones who live in the house are pets and look intimidating but are really sweet. His Ralphie is a retired guard dog who is a complete sweetheart. Our Cattle dog gets along well with all of them. ACD's I will have another one someday The question for you then or anyone else who would have an ACD is would you get a pitbull? You hate me I hate you so go fall in ditch | |
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emocheerleader said: shanti0608 said: ACD's I will have another one someday The question for you then or anyone else who would have an ACD is would you get a pitbull? why is it? | |
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