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Reply #60 posted 10/04/07 10:32pm

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horatio said:

it was the pussy that set them off

Who's pussy?
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #61 posted 10/04/07 10:45pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it.



I respect your opinion, Richard, but if we used that stance against everything equally 'unpredicable', we'd have to eradicate religious extremists and every other 'dangerous group' of humans, animals, plants, etc.

This is not in black and white, here. For every one dog that attacks, MANY don't. Choose not to own a pit bull. Choose to remove your pit bull from the company of children. Don't purchase pits with dodgy breeding backgrounds. Eradicate an entire species? It's a bit hypocritical, no?
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Reply #62 posted 10/05/07 1:06am

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I have a cat, and I'm still alive.
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Reply #63 posted 10/05/07 1:38am

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INSATIABLE said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it.



I respect your opinion, Richard, but if we used that stance against everything equally 'unpredicable', we'd have to eradicate religious extremists and every other 'dangerous group' of humans, animals, plants, etc.

This is not in black and white, here. For every one dog that attacks, MANY don't. Choose not to own a pit bull. Choose to remove your pit bull from the company of children. Don't purchase pits with dodgy breeding backgrounds. Eradicate an entire species? It's a bit hypocritical, no?


insatiable the only voice of reason and sense on this entire silly ass thread...

i love the way Americans react to soundbites, i need to see the whole ass story before i even think of condemning anything..

all dogs, need to be trained and managed properly and proper breeding is everything.

its never the dog, always the owner...
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Reply #64 posted 10/05/07 1:39am

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INSATIABLE said:

NDRU said:

Any dog can be dangerous. But pitbulls, with their reputation, get adopted by people who want vicious dogs, and when a dog is encouraged to be vicious it will be.

But even my brother's mellow lab could have been dangerous if he hadn't been trained.

But keep in mind the only dog that really bit me was a dauchhound (sp?). I think little dogs are much meaner.

lol Same in my case. The little yippers just love to clamp down on an ankle or hand.

My stepbrother's pit is a seriously beautiful (seriously), sensitive, intelligent guy. He is very emotional and demands love. He's definitely STRONG, and nobody would ever let him around little ones alone--he'd knock them over with his tail alone! But I've never known a sweeter puppy. He's NOTHING like those inbred, angry fighter dogs. It makes me sad they're being bred that way, because their reputation is completely blown.


very true...
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Reply #65 posted 10/05/07 1:43am

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I'm curious to see how many people are killed drowning in their own swimming pools as opposed to being killed by a pitbull. Can anyone provide any stats?
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Reply #66 posted 10/05/07 1:44am

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roodboi said:

I live in pit bull country..it's a rite of redneck passage to own a pitbull here...
I agree not all of 'em are ferocious..but they are ALL capable of the same thing...pitbulls have an unmatched crushing power and grip with their jaws and believe me when I say there are tons of pitbull attacks here that are never publicized so I don't think it's a smear campaign...
they're dangerous...period...point blank...

I've owned a pit...he was a great, well behaved dog...

when my son was born, the dog found a new home...it made sense to me....


lets be real here, what you are really saying is that you didn't train your dog adequately and made the right choice of giving it to someone who could.

i mean i wouldn't even let my daschound free around any baby of mine
dogs and infants shouldn't mix, but hell if i am going to give my dog away..
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Reply #67 posted 10/05/07 1:46am

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JDInteractive said:

I'm curious to see how many people are killed drowning in their own swimming pools as opposed to being killed by a pitbull. Can anyone provide any stats?


shhh, they might start calling for the genocide of all swimming pools

then how will i do my laps sad
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Reply #68 posted 10/05/07 1:54am

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eraclito said:

all dogs, need to be trained and managed properly and proper breeding is everything.

its never the dog, always the owner...

Do you think I care who's fault it is? If I'm taking a walk around the neighbourhood and every damn dog threatens to jump at my jugular?

Do you think that's what should be written on Tina Marie Canterbury's grave "IT WAS MY FAULT" ?
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I always take a walking stick with me. If I die, it will be fighting.
And yes, I blame the owners too.
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Reply #69 posted 10/05/07 2:11am

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PANDURITO said:

eraclito said:

all dogs, need to be trained and managed properly and proper breeding is everything.

its never the dog, always the owner...

Do you think I care who's fault it is? If I'm taking a walk around the neighbourhood and every damn dog threatens to jump at my jugular?

Do you think that's what should be written on Tina Marie Canterbury's grave "IT WAS MY FAULT" ?
disbelief

I always take a walking stick with me. If I die, it will be fighting.
And yes, I blame the owners too.


well yes you should care whose responsibility it is.
it is then and only then that any problem can be tackled effectively
if there is a dog problem in your town, then owners need to be called into question
and held liable for their actions and forced to act responsibly
to own a gun, one must apply for a licence and security clearance and install an appropriate gun safe.
the same rules should apply to dogs, backyard breeders need to be stopped
dog licenses need to be enforced and owners must have to take dog training lessons.

a dick head is going to have a dick head dog, minimise that shit
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Reply #70 posted 10/05/07 3:21am

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Reply #71 posted 10/05/07 3:39am

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eraclito said:

JDInteractive said:

I'm curious to see how many people are killed drowning in their own swimming pools as opposed to being killed by a pitbull. Can anyone provide any stats?


shhh, they might start calling for the genocide of all swimming pools

then how will i do my laps sad



I can think of other ways. biggrin
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Reply #72 posted 10/05/07 3:48am

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MissMe said:



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Reply #73 posted 10/05/07 4:42am

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All I know is that this story is tragic.
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Reply #74 posted 10/05/07 5:22am

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there's alot of notions here that it's always the owners fault that a pit bull is aggressive...that simply is not true...it is an inbred trait of the dog...that along with it's physical capabilites make it a dangerous breed...

I've had three pits in my life...two in my teens...one as an adult...as I said earlier I found a new home for my last one when my son was born...all three were good dogs...all three had aggressive traits...I certainly didn't instill that in them...

I think they're beautiful dogs and I don't think the breed should be eradicated...but it's a vain arguement that these dogs are only as dangerous as you make them...

steps have to be taken to protect people and the breed...
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Reply #75 posted 10/05/07 5:31am

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lets be real here, what you are really saying is that you didn't train your dog adequately and made the right choice of giving it to someone who could

i mean i wouldn't even let my daschound free around any baby of mine
dogs and infants shouldn't mix, but hell if i am going to give my dog away..


no...
what I'm saying is all the training in the world isnt gonna matter if a pitbull gets pissy...I'm sure if your dachsund gotta a lil nippy around a child, you could handle it...the same cant be said for a pitbull...
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Reply #76 posted 10/05/07 5:40am

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INSATIABLE said:

Mars23 said:




I don't have enough reliable date to make a judgment on that right now. It would be difficult to regulate, but I would support owners being liable for the actions of their dog. If it kills someone, they are treated as if they killed someone. It is a choice to own a dangerous breed, just like owning a gun.

Spot on. I'm all for a little goddamned responsibility for once. lol


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Reply #77 posted 10/05/07 5:49am

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there's alot of notions here that it's always the owners fault that a pit bull is aggressive...that simply is not true...it is an inbred trait of the dog...that along with it's physical capabilites make it a dangerous breed...

I've had three pits in my life...two in my teens...one as an adult...as I said earlier I found a new home for my last one when my son was born...all three were good dogs...all three had aggressive traits...I certainly didn't instill that in them...

I think they're beautiful dogs and I don't think the breed should be eradicated...but it's a vain arguement that these dogs are only as dangerous as you make them...

steps have to be taken to protect people and the breed...


thank god you had the sense!
I gave my cat away, I was paranoid she would come and sit on my newborns face and smother him sad
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Reply #78 posted 10/05/07 5:51am

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roodboi said:

there's alot of notions here that it's always the owners fault that a pit bull is aggressive...that simply is not true...it is an inbred trait of the dog...that along with it's physical capabilites make it a dangerous breed...

I've had three pits in my life...two in my teens...one as an adult...as I said earlier I found a new home for my last one when my son was born...all three were good dogs...all three had aggressive traits...I certainly didn't instill that in them...

I think they're beautiful dogs and I don't think the breed should be eradicated...but it's a vain arguement that these dogs are only as dangerous as you make them...

steps have to be taken to protect people and the breed...



thank god you had the sense!
I gave my cat away, I was paranoid she would come and sit on my newborns face and smother him sad



what are you saying...you didn't properly train your cat??? lol
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Reply #79 posted 10/05/07 5:54am

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roodboi said:

ZombieKitten said:




thank god you had the sense!
I gave my cat away, I was paranoid she would come and sit on my newborns face and smother him sad



what are you saying...you didn't properly train your cat??? lol
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frikken cat was a heat seeking missile mad
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Reply #80 posted 10/05/07 5:55am

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ZombieKitten said:

roodboi said:




what are you saying...you didn't properly train your cat??? lol
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frikken cat was a heat seeking missile mad


well...apparently thats your fault...proper training would have made him a predictable softie... razz
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Reply #81 posted 10/05/07 5:57am

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roodboi said:

ZombieKitten said:



frikken cat was a heat seeking missile mad


well...apparently thats your fault...proper training would have made him a predictable softie... razz


I got her from the rspca as an adult cat, like they can be trained anyway rolleyes
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Reply #82 posted 10/05/07 6:11am

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ZombieKitten said:

roodboi said:

there's alot of notions here that it's always the owners fault that a pit bull is aggressive...that simply is not true...it is an inbred trait of the dog...that along with it's physical capabilites make it a dangerous breed...

I've had three pits in my life...two in my teens...one as an adult...as I said earlier I found a new home for my last one when my son was born...all three were good dogs...all three had aggressive traits...I certainly didn't instill that in them...

I think they're beautiful dogs and I don't think the breed should be eradicated...but it's a vain arguement that these dogs are only as dangerous as you make them...

steps have to be taken to protect people and the breed...


thank god you had the sense!
I gave my cat away, I was paranoid she would come and sit on my newborns face and smother him sad


both of you nod
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Reply #83 posted 10/05/07 6:19am

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Mars23 said:




I don't have enough reliable date to make a judgment on that right now. It would be difficult to regulate, but I would support owners being liable for the actions of their dog. If it kills someone, they are treated as if they killed someone. It is a choice to own a dangerous breed, just like owning a gun.

Spot on. I'm all for a little goddamned responsibility for once. lol


i could live with that
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Reply #84 posted 10/05/07 8:27am

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eraclito said:

a dick head is going to have a dick head dog, minimise that shit


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Reply #85 posted 10/05/07 8:31am

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JDInteractive said:

eraclito said:

a dick head is going to have a dick head dog, minimise that shit


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I can see that being someone's signature soon. lol
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Reply #86 posted 10/05/07 9:43am

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I really don't understand having an animal in your house that is capable of killing u. I just don't get it.



Some people are just plain naive and believe their precious dog would never turn on them. Any dog, of any size can turn on their owner at any time.

Having said that, I have a friend who owns a pitbull. She is a big baby and has never hurt anyone. She's now about 13 and has never shown any signs of aggression. I believe that many people train their dogs to be this way and when you do that, you are only asking for trouble. If you want guard dogs, that's totally different - you don't allow them into your home as pets.
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Reply #87 posted 10/05/07 9:51am

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INSATIABLE said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it.



I respect your opinion, Richard, but if we used that stance against everything equally 'unpredicable', we'd have to eradicate religious extremists and every other 'dangerous group' of humans, animals, plants, etc.

This is not in black and white, here. For every one dog that attacks, MANY don't. Choose not to own a pit bull. Choose to remove your pit bull from the company of children. Don't purchase pits with dodgy breeding backgrounds. Eradicate an entire species? It's a bit hypocritical, no?

No I don't think it is lol I understand the passion of people who own innocent dogs but the night before her death, she lay down with innocent pets and now she is dead. I would love nothing more than to eradicate abusive owners of these dogs but would just as soon see these dogs eliminated from the planet.
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Reply #88 posted 10/05/07 9:56am

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Graycap23 said:

I really don't understand having an animal in your house that is capable of killing u. I just don't get it.

you're more likely to be killed by your husband or wife than by your pet.


just sayin'...
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Reply #89 posted 10/05/07 10:00am

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JasmineFire said:

Graycap23 said:

I really don't understand having an animal in your house that is capable of killing u. I just don't get it.

you're more likely to be killed by your husband or wife than by your pet.


just sayin'...


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