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Reply #30 posted 10/04/07 3:56pm

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Additionally, do you personally know the dogs, the owner, or the upbringing and breeding of these killers?
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Reply #31 posted 10/04/07 3:57pm

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I can imagine a time where we're not allowed to own dogs, at least in the city. People just aren't responsible enough.

And if they're not trained, they're really a lethal weapon. And even guns can't jump the fence and run loose in the neighborhood without a little help.
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Reply #32 posted 10/04/07 3:58pm

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INSATIABLE said:

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No-one thought these pits were ferocious. They never exhibited agression, untill they killed one person and attacked two others.

Other breeds can kill too, but rarely in an unprovoked attack and without warning. There's a reason pit bulls are used for fighting more than any other breed.

Do you think it's so dangerous and frequent that the breed should be outlawed?



I don't have enough reliable date to make a judgment on that right now. It would be difficult to regulate, but I would support owners being liable for the actions of their dog. If it kills someone, they are treated as if they killed someone. It is a choice to own a dangerous breed, just like owning a gun.
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Reply #33 posted 10/04/07 3:59pm

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Mars23 said:

INSATIABLE said:


Do you think it's so dangerous and frequent that the breed should be outlawed?



I don't have enough reliable date to make a judgment on that right now. It would be difficult to regulate, but I would support owners being liable for the actions of their dog. If it kills someone, they are treated as if they killed someone. It is a choice to own a dangerous breed, just like owning a gun.

Spot on. I'm all for a little goddamned responsibility for once. lol
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Reply #34 posted 10/04/07 4:00pm

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I live in pit bull country..it's a rite of redneck passage to own a pitbull here...
I agree not all of 'em are ferocious..but they are ALL capable of the same thing...pitbulls have an unmatched crushing power and grip with their jaws and believe me when I say there are tons of pitbull attacks here that are never publicized so I don't think it's a smear campaign...
they're dangerous...period...point blank...

I've owned a pit...he was a great, well behaved dog...

when my son was born, the dog found a new home...it made sense to me....


True, and they can hold on after death even. But a German Shepard's jaws could kill you, too, right? At some point the jaw strength becomes redundant.


no, it doesn't...there isn't another dog with clinching power that a pit bull has...sure,any dog can bite...sure, alot of dogs could kill you...I'll take my chances with the german shepard...or any other breed for that matter....
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Reply #35 posted 10/04/07 4:00pm

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INSATIABLE said:

Additionally, do you personally know the dogs, the owner, or the upbringing and breeding of these killers?



Sadly, all I have to go on is this direct quote from the victim's family.

"They were house pets, and they literally slept with her when he wasn't home. She would take them out and put them in their pen and walk them and stuff," he said.

The dogs were two years old and had been raised since puppies by Cantebury.
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Reply #36 posted 10/04/07 4:01pm

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uPtoWnNY said:

horatio said:




did it.

not gonna have my back turned while im doing yard work and be mauled by some idiot chavs dog, they'd at least have to be some who has some money first befoe i'd let that happen smile



Or worse, your kids. I've read too many horror stories of children being mauled because some jack-ass refuses to keep his killing machine on a leash. If one came in my yard, I'd introduce it to my friends Smith & Wesson.


So...

Pitbulls = bad

Guns = good.

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Reply #37 posted 10/04/07 4:06pm

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roodboi said:

NDRU said:



True, and they can hold on after death even. But a German Shepard's jaws could kill you, too, right? At some point the jaw strength becomes redundant.


no, it doesn't...there isn't another dog with clinching power that a pit bull has...sure,any dog can bite...sure, alot of dogs could kill you...I'll take my chances with the german shepard...or any other breed for that matter....


I guess.

But to me it seems like "which is more lethal?" Maybe the pitbull, but it can't make you more dead than a german shepard. But if they're more aggressive, that's another story.

Maybe you're right, I don't know.
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Reply #38 posted 10/04/07 4:06pm

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uPtoWnNY said:




Or worse, your kids. I've read too many horror stories of children being mauled because some jack-ass refuses to keep his killing machine on a leash. If one came in my yard, I'd introduce it to my friends Smith & Wesson.


So...

Pitbulls = bad

Guns = good.

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yep nod

did you hear the one where this guys gun jumped out of the closet and started attacking him?
Then, after that, the gun went door to door and shot all the nieghbors and even killed some dogs.
The authorities never recovered the mad gun.
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Reply #39 posted 10/04/07 4:10pm

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horatio said:

JustErin said:



So...

Pitbulls = bad

Guns = good.

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yep nod

did you hear the one where this guys gun jumped out of the closet and started attacking him?
Then, after that, the gun went door to door and shot all the nieghbors and even killed some dogs.
The authorities never recovered the mad gun.


No, but I have heard the one about the two kids that were playing with their dad's bad ass gun and one friend blew off the face off the other. Actually, that's a really common "one".
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Reply #40 posted 10/04/07 4:13pm

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I got it wave

Pitbulls = bad
Guns = bad.

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Reply #41 posted 10/04/07 4:13pm

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I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it. Nothing good comes of these dogs if you can raise them from puppies in a responsible way and they snap like this.
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Reply #42 posted 10/04/07 4:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it. Nothing good comes of these dogs if you can raise them from puppies in a responsible way and they snap like this.


That's kind of harsh, but I think breeding of animals is probably a bad idea, unless you breed mutts. The more "pure" a dog the less healthy, it seems. Either their hips are bad or they're killers
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Reply #43 posted 10/04/07 4:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it. Nothing good comes of these dogs if you can raise them from puppies in a responsible way and they snap like this.


if your a facist then they could be a contributing factor to the advancement of facist ideals


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Reply #44 posted 10/04/07 4:18pm

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hah! SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy

genocide rolleyes
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Reply #45 posted 10/04/07 4:18pm

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NDRU said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I hate to say this but I think this is a breed that should have genocide committed against it. Nothing good comes of these dogs if you can raise them from puppies in a responsible way and they snap like this.


That's kind of harsh, but I think breeding of animals is probably a bad idea, unless you breed mutts. The more "pure" a dog the less healthy, it seems. Either their hips are bad or they're killers

I know people are going to think that but I really don't think these dogs should exist anymore. Too many irresponsible assholes raising them to kill and you just can't even take a chance with them really. A friend of mine had a pit bull that was huge and had a head bigger than a basketball and that was one of the sweetest dogs I have ever encountered but she got a puppy companion for him, another pit, and being around the other dog made him more aggressive.
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Reply #46 posted 10/04/07 4:27pm

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Having known some sweet pitbulls, I don't want to believe the hype.

But then if I got a dog I damn well won't be getting a pitbull anymore than I'll be taking up crack for my recreational drug use even though Whitney's looking okay now.

I won't be buying a used Pinto, even though lots of people have loved driven them for years.

I won't be sleeping with Pam Anderson, even though Kid Rock hasn't been diagnosed with Hep C yet.

I won't be Prince's next protoge, even though Sheila had a fairly lasting career (oh who am I kidding? Of course I would!) lol
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Reply #47 posted 10/04/07 4:31pm

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Having known some sweet pitbulls, I don't want to believe the hype.

But then if I got a dog I damn well won't be getting a pitbull anymore than I'll be taking up crack for my recreational drug use even though Whitney's looking okay now.

I won't be buying a used Pinto, even though lots of people have loved driven them for years.

I won't be sleeping with Pam Anderson, even though Kid Rock hasn't been diagnosed with Hep C yet.

I won't be Prince's next protoge, even though Sheila had a fairly lasting career (oh who am I kidding? Of course I would!) lol


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Reply #48 posted 10/04/07 4:59pm

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NDRU said:

I can imagine a time where we're not allowed to own dogs, at least in the city. People just aren't responsible enough.

And if they're not trained, they're really a lethal weapon. And even guns can't jump the fence and run loose in the neighborhood without a little help.


The breeding and importing of pit bull type breeds are not not allowed where I live. If you own one, it is supposed to be registered, fixed and muzzled when it is off it's property.
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Reply #49 posted 10/04/07 5:19pm

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I wish pitbulls were outlawed here in NYC. Too many f--king hoodrats think owning one makes them rough.
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Reply #50 posted 10/04/07 7:50pm

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For that family pray rose

I would never own that breed of dog. There are other breeds that have a bad reputation as well.

Usually if a dog turns on it's owner it's because it was abused.
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Reply #51 posted 10/04/07 8:43pm

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I love Pits. cool
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Reply #52 posted 10/04/07 8:50pm

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sexxydancer said:

I love Pits. cool






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Reply #53 posted 10/04/07 8:51pm

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horatio said:

sexxydancer said:

I love Pits. cool






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I was thinking the exact same thing...lol

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Reply #54 posted 10/04/07 8:51pm

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sexxydancer said:

I love Pits. cool






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Not that kind! lol
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Reply #55 posted 10/04/07 8:54pm

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horatio said:

sexxydancer said:

I love Pits. cool






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Reply #56 posted 10/04/07 8:58pm

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NDRU said:

I can imagine a time where we're not allowed to own dogs, at least in the city. People just aren't responsible enough.

And if they're not trained, they're really a lethal weapon. And even guns can't jump the fence and run loose in the neighborhood without a little help.


The breeding and importing of pit bull type breeds are not not allowed where I live. If you own one, it is supposed to be registered, fixed and muzzled when it is off it's property.


same here, and at home they have to have an enclosure with a concrete floor and fence x high.
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Reply #57 posted 10/04/07 9:04pm

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Where's Michael Vick when you need him?!
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Reply #58 posted 10/04/07 10:25pm

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INSATIABLE said:

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That would be as stupid as having 2 pitbulls smile

I don't know why I'm amazed that people require no more than trite, low-grade AP wire "news" to determine "truths" regarding their entire world. lol If anyone is questioning my compassion for the family and victims here, they're braindead. But the stories of less "frightening" breeds mauling humans receive nowhere near the publicity as these. Dogs can be vicious animals, absolutely. Pit bulls can and will kill--it's been in the limelight for a long time. But so can other dogs.

For people to think that all pits are ferocious is sad. It would just be nice if the repeatedly horrified public would open up their minds a tiny bit.


"Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006; click here to read it.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.

According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:

If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.

Clifton's opinions are as interesting as his statistics. For example, he says, "Pit bulls and Rottweilers are accordingly dogs who not only must be handled with special precautions, but also must be regulated with special requirements appropriate to the risk they may pose to the public and other animals, if they are to be kept at all."
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