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Reply #30 posted 10/03/07 12:28pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:


her dad has had it with this guy, he would live here if he could. she does do all her homework, it is mandatory for her school to send out progress reports every friday.

is he a bad kid? The last thing you want to do is drive her into his arms.

I would not say he is a bad kid, he doesn't seem like it. but this is my husbands "little girl" no one would be too good for her.
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Reply #31 posted 10/03/07 12:31pm

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thank you to everyone who posted and to everyone who orgnoted me, you have no idea how much this has helped me..I was in tears when I wrote this thread awhile ago, I feel so much better!! I love you all!! grouphug
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Reply #32 posted 10/03/07 12:33pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

thank you to everyone who posted and to everyone who orgnoted me, you have no idea how much this has helped me..I was in tears when I wrote this thread awhile ago, I feel so much better!! I love you all!! grouphug


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Reply #33 posted 10/03/07 12:33pm

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jess555ja said:

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i'm not saying that you do, but don't compare them or do the 'why can't you be more like your sibling!' thing. it really sucks. lol

nod My mother always tries to pull that on me. It's all types of wrong. sad


you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.
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Reply #34 posted 10/03/07 12:35pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

thank you to everyone who posted and to everyone who orgnoted me, you have no idea how much this has helped me..I was in tears when I wrote this thread awhile ago, I feel so much better!! I love you all!! grouphug

hug Honey, just remember that saying about the bird. you don't want to hold the bird in your hands too tight cuz you'll crush it. She's finding herself and you have to remember that. She's gonna want her independence and all that. It's natural. You did, I did, we all do. Just keep those lines of communication open and love her even when you want to bring out the belt lol In the end, you will see you have done a good job and things will be fine. You'll see smile
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Reply #35 posted 10/03/07 12:36pm

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evenstar said:

jess555ja said:


nod My mother always tries to pull that on me. It's all types of wrong. sad


you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.

did you get doom on her ass? lol

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Reply #36 posted 10/03/07 12:38pm

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jess555ja said:


nod My mother always tries to pull that on me. It's all types of wrong. sad


you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.

Nope, I'm the middle child. I have two sisters and they aren't angels or anything, but I definitely gave my parents a hard time between the ages of 13-18. I still have problems with this because my parents like to focus on my flaws and not the good things confused



Damn, your parents said that to you? That's harsh sad hug
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Reply #37 posted 10/03/07 12:38pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

evenstar said:



you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.

did you get doom on her ass? lol

wink


i started crying and then pretended to stub my toe so she wouldn't know why falloff
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Reply #38 posted 10/03/07 12:39pm

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evenstar said:

jess555ja said:


nod My mother always tries to pull that on me. It's all types of wrong. sad


you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.


comfort thats not nice but being a parent I'm guilty too of saying things to my daughter that aren't very nice. I really try hard to watch what I say to her, my mother was never really good at thinking before she spoke, so I know how hurtful words can be
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Reply #39 posted 10/03/07 12:44pm

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evenstar said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


did you get doom on her ass? lol

wink


i started crying and then pretended to stub my toe so she wouldn't know why falloff

Awwwww lol

hug One day she'll be glad she raised Joan of Arc smile
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Reply #40 posted 10/03/07 12:45pm

evenstar

jess555ja said:

evenstar said:



you're the oldest too, right? my whole life i was the bad, fuck-up kid, until my sister started acting like a teenager when she was 17-18. lol my mom told me a few months ago (when i was teasing her about missing us since we've moved out and gone to school) that she & my dad were really happy that i went away to school, because i was so horrid to be around. sad true, maybe, but ouch.

Nope, I'm the middle child. I have two sisters and they aren't angels or anything, but I definitely gave my parents a hard time between the ages of 13-18. I still have problems with this because my parents like to focus on my flaws and not the good things confused



Damn, your parents said that to you? That's harsh sad hug


families are so messed up sometimes. lol hug
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Reply #41 posted 10/03/07 12:45pm

jess555ja

evenstar said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


did you get doom on her ass? lol

wink


i started crying and then pretended to stub my toe so she wouldn't know why falloff

lol comfort
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Reply #42 posted 10/03/07 12:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

evenstar said:



i started crying and then pretended to stub my toe so she wouldn't know why falloff

Awwwww lol

hug One day she'll be glad she raised Joan of Arc smile


eek so those voices in my head are saints and stuff?! yay!
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Reply #43 posted 10/03/07 12:47pm

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evenstar said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Awwwww lol

hug One day she'll be glad she raised Joan of Arc smile


eek so those voices in my head are saints and stuff?! yay!

Uhhhhh, yeah! talk to the hand

Don't even front Laurel lol

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Reply #44 posted 10/03/07 12:51pm

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I was the only female influence in my younger sisters life from 12 onwards
and had a pretty big hand in raising her before that.
(I even had to give the talk shake )

When 14 years old hit normal speech went out of the window and was substituted with grunts in between listening to music.
That stopped when she left school.
As for boyfriends she respects herself so I trust her judgement but if she needs advice I am always available.

she is in a stable relationship now and 19 in a week eek
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Reply #45 posted 10/03/07 12:57pm

veronikka

PaisleyPark5083 said:

Ok, so I am at a loss and need your guys help. I have never done a "I need your help" thread so bare with me.
My perfect "little Angel" of a daughter, has now turned 14, is a freshmen in high school, and has mastered the fine art of being a teenager. She is sarcastic, rolls her eyes at me, bratty, smart ass, would rather listen to her ipod at all times of day then to talk to her old Mom, has her first real boyfriend (god help me), all of those things I dreaded, are now my reality. Please give me your advise if you have been through this. I was a teenager, and remember doing all of this to my Mom, she drank. I do not want to go that route, please help!!!



My daughter has been asking me if its ok for her to have a bf, she is 13 will be 14 in December. This is so hard for me, I have told her no, as I feel she is still too young to have a bf. Then I think she is being honest with me, she is asking me and doesn't want to hide things from me, maybe I should let her. I almost feel like Im asking for her hide things from me by telling her no. I hid a lot of things from my parents and would not want the same to happen with my daughter, it's so hard sigh
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Reply #46 posted 10/03/07 1:02pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

thank you my friend, I know you have a very beautiful daughter indeed!
This just all came about so fast, caught me off guard if you will. I have taught her right from wrong from a very early age, and I feel in my heart she will always do the right thing. But still, life has changed since we were kids, no there is just so much out there, and I get scared and jumpy. I must believe in her, trust her, but I will keep my eyes and ears open!!!!


Thank you....

...and it is not easy no matter what. Yes it does come very fast. It seems like they go from innocent girls playing, needing you and thinking boys are "yucky" to wanting to be independent, private and boy crazy over night.

You know it's coming, but it still does not prepare you for it.

I'm sure your daughter will be fine and everything will turn out for the best. There will be rough times and bumps along the way, but it will turn out fine in the end.
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

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Reply #47 posted 10/03/07 1:09pm

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My daughter has been asking me if its ok for her to have a bf, she is 13 will be 14 in December. This is so hard for me, I have told her no, as I feel she is still too young to have a bf. Then I think she is being honest with me, she is asking me and doesn't want to hide things from me, maybe I should let her. I almost feel like Im asking for her hide things from me by telling her no. I hid a lot of things from my parents and would not want the same to happen with my daughter, it's so hard sigh


It's like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you say no, does that make her go behind your back? If you say yes, is she too young? What is the right age to let her have a boyfriend?

I wish there were some kind of parents manual with all the answers but there is not sad .
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

"....i can open my-eyes "underwater"..there4 i will NOT drown...." - mzkqueen03 eek lol
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Reply #48 posted 10/03/07 1:17pm

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My daughter will be 17 in January. She hasnt lost her mind totally but she will test the boundaries.

She is opinionated (I wonder where she gets that from lol ) and this has always been the issue with us.....the mouth.

I established some rules to allow her to vent when she was about 6 because she use to fall out because I wouldn't let her state her "opinion". We have these "no holds barred" sessions where she can state her opinion, vent and complain in respectful manner so she feels like she has a voice. It has worked. So whenever she has some issue with me or anything, she now feels like she can have an opinion and still understand she is a kid and needs to be respectful.

So far, the bumps have been minor.

The most interesting thing I keep hearing from older adults is that it actually gets worse when your children become adults because as a parent you can't really say anything when you see your kids just do stupid stuff. That never stopped my mom though...


I've learned that being a parent is the hardest thing on the planet because hell, there are days when you just don't like your kid and if you said it ppl with think you're awful. You love them but damn it, they do need to go to camp for a minute. wink smile
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Reply #49 posted 10/03/07 1:21pm

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Sowhat said:

veronikka said:

My daughter has been asking me if its ok for her to have a bf, she is 13 will be 14 in December. This is so hard for me, I have told her no, as I feel she is still too young to have a bf. Then I think she is being honest with me, she is asking me and doesn't want to hide things from me, maybe I should let her. I almost feel like Im asking for her hide things from me by telling her no. I hid a lot of things from my parents and would not want the same to happen with my daughter, it's so hard sigh


It's like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you say no, does that make her go behind your back? If you say yes, is she too young? What is the right age to let her have a boyfriend?

I wish there were some kind of parents manual with all the answers but there is not sad .


Exactly what I ask myself, when will she be old enough to have a bf, I remember I used to say 14 now 14 is just around the corner and I still think she is too young. Will she ever be old enough to have a bf in my eyes, probably not
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Reply #50 posted 10/03/07 1:23pm

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I think a big part is setting boundaries and expectations way ahead of time...she knows that if her grades drop, or if she does something behind our backs like have a boyfriend without letting us know, the things she enjoy most will be taken away or limited.
This cannot be stressed enough. If your daughter loves music and she continues to disrespect you, take the stereo out of her room. If you think it's silly or harsh or both, I understand. You don't have to agree with me, but I shaped up almost IMMEDIATELY when my dad ripped the phone and stereo from my room. lol It was torture not having my tunes and my 3-way calling. I was also restricted from participating in my clubs/teams, etc if my grades were low. And if I was acting up, I simply wasn't given allowance and was required to stay in for the weekend. It probably feels awful to be a strict enforcer but he had no other choice as I was relentless with sarcasm and had a sword for a tongue when opposing my dad/stepmom. They simply had no other choice. lol Don't let her control you. Even at 14, she needs this structure at home.


Also it is all about maintaining a balance. Being too strict or too lenient often have very bad outcomes. You have to give them enough freedom to grow and learn, but set enough boundaries to help them make it through.
Totally. Due to my dad's overbearing ways, I was forbidden to do most things my friends could do. MTV, horror movies, dating. It assisted in screwing me up socially at the time, financially later, and when I was on my own at 18, I did some really stupid things in my newly emancipated state of naivety.
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Reply #51 posted 10/03/07 2:12pm

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being 14 rocks woot!

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Reply #52 posted 10/03/07 2:24pm

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veronikka said:

Sowhat said:



It's like a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. If you say no, does that make her go behind your back? If you say yes, is she too young? What is the right age to let her have a boyfriend?

I wish there were some kind of parents manual with all the answers but there is not sad .


Exactly what I ask myself, when will she be old enough to have a bf, I remember I used to say 14 now 14 is just around the corner and I still think she is too young. Will she ever be old enough to have a bf in my eyes, probably not


EXACTLY...falloff
"Always blessings, never losses......"

Ya te dije....no manches guey!!!!!

mad I'm a guy!!!!

"....i can open my-eyes "underwater"..there4 i will NOT drown...." - mzkqueen03 eek lol
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Reply #53 posted 10/03/07 3:25pm

Ocean

My daughter is 12...very out going....is going to be beautiful when she older confused (I'm picturing the guys now mad ) and is a great kid .....I only hope she misses all that teenage crap pray .....actually I never gave my mum and dad any trouble angel whistling
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Reply #54 posted 10/03/07 5:58pm

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2 daughters - one is now almost 29 and the other will be 16 in Nov

Jess ( the 15 yr old ) is a very balanced busy girl - she too has her 1st ever boyfriend and she keeps him in line far more then I need to lol She is active in sports and dance and school student body office and DECA

I think being an involved active student helps her to not take on some of the "teenage" crap that I se some of her peers now doing

She loves to listen to her music yes but is never disrespectful with it when I need to speak to her - she holds eye contact and i have yet to see an eyeroll from her

I allow her her free time to be a teen self centered girl and I also insisnt she takes part in family matter to earn that alone / free time

we talk - like friends with respect and when I have to speak to her as "Mom" she listens

I help her with whatever she needs/wants as in rides and support and supervision
her friends are always welcome in our home and we take the time and effort to get to know other parents .

shrug not much advice rose




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I like this idea!
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Reply #55 posted 10/03/07 6:50pm

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What a wonderful "community" we have here on the org, I felt the lowest of low's this morning, and you all rallied to help me out...as they say, you are good folk..cloud9

Now I need a drink! martini
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Reply #56 posted 10/03/07 6:51pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

What a wonderful "community" we have here on the org, I felt the lowest of low's this morning, and you all rallied to help me out...as they say, you are good folk..cloud9

Now I need a drink! martini


oh wait for me! I will have one is 6 hours
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Reply #57 posted 10/03/07 6:54pm

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ZombieKitten said:

PaisleyPark5083 said:

What a wonderful "community" we have here on the org, I felt the lowest of low's this morning, and you all rallied to help me out...as they say, you are good folk..cloud9

Now I need a drink! martini


oh wait for me! I will have one is 6 hours

martini martini martini drinks for all!!
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Reply #58 posted 10/03/07 6:55pm

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PaisleyPark5083 said:

ZombieKitten said:



oh wait for me! I will have one is 6 hours

martini martini martini drinks for all!!

woot! martini
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Reply #59 posted 10/03/07 7:21pm

Mach

ZombieKitten said:

Mach said:

2 daughters - one is now almost 29 and the other will be 16 in Nov

Jess ( the 15 yr old ) is a very balanced busy girl - she too has her 1st ever boyfriend and she keeps him in line far more then I need to lol She is active in sports and dance and school student body office and DECA

I think being an involved active student helps her to not take on some of the "teenage" crap that I se some of her peers now doing

She loves to listen to her music yes but is never disrespectful with it when I need to speak to her - she holds eye contact and i have yet to see an eyeroll from her

I allow her her free time to be a teen self centered girl and I also insisnt she takes part in family matter to earn that alone / free time

we talk - like friends with respect and when I have to speak to her as "Mom" she listens

I help her with whatever she needs/wants as in rides and support and supervision
her friends are always welcome in our home and we take the time and effort to get to know other parents .

shrug not much advice rose




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I like this idea!


WTF is "insisnt" - falloff
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