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Cylons: Pure Evil or Misguided? I look upon the Cylons as misguided.
Ever since the close of season 3, or even the beginnings of season 3, we've seen a development in their characters. They operate as a purer democracy than humans, always weighing things up and mutually deciding. It seems though, that despite their apparent inhumanity, they are such well-made entities that they end up facing an inner-struggle - the sanctity of life, belief in a God, how best to resolve issues. The cynic can argue that the Cylons are merely programmed to respond like this in order to better their collective judgement and decision-making, but I disagree. Especially seeing as 2 of them have been put in cold-storage due to what their self-exploration has done to their character. They became "too human." It raises interesting possible future ethical dilemmas in regards to robot rights. Do we give robots rights for appearing 100% human, even though in reality they are not, and merely programmed to pretend to be? What's your verdict: evil, or making bad decisions as they explore themselves? | |
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Alternatively we can revel in how fit Caprica 6 and Gaius Baltar are, but I'd rather discuss the above.
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Spookymuffin said: I look upon the Cylons as misguided.
Ever since the close of season 3, or even the beginnings of season 3, we've seen a development in their characters. They operate as a purer democracy than humans, always weighing things up and mutually deciding. It seems though, that despite their apparent inhumanity, they are such well-made entities that they end up facing an inner-struggle - the sanctity of life, belief in a God, how best to resolve issues. The cynic can argue that the Cylons are merely programmed to respond like this in order to better their collective judgement and decision-making, but I disagree. Especially seeing as 2 of them have been put in cold-storage due to what their self-exploration has done to their character. They became "too human." It raises interesting possible future ethical dilemmas in regards to robot rights. Do we give robots rights for appearing 100% human, even though in reality they are not, and merely programmed to pretend to be? What's your verdict: evil, or making bad decisions as they explore themselves? I would have to concur with your viewpoint with regards to the cylons, I also think the humans are such a superficial race that a robot that looks cute or cuddly is likely to be treated differently to an evil looking robot regardless of its inner design or reason for operating. | |
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the original cylons were just neutral, they simply wanted to restore order to the universe, the pesky humans needed exterminating to do that. | |
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ZombieKitten said: the original cylons were just neutral, they simply wanted to restore order to the universe, the pesky humans needed exterminating to do that.
But the original show was fracking awful. | |
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Spookymuffin said: ZombieKitten said: the original cylons were just neutral, they simply wanted to restore order to the universe, the pesky humans needed exterminating to do that.
But the original show was fracking awful. I read it in this book | |
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jami0mckay said: Spookymuffin said: I look upon the Cylons as misguided.
Ever since the close of season 3, or even the beginnings of season 3, we've seen a development in their characters. They operate as a purer democracy than humans, always weighing things up and mutually deciding. It seems though, that despite their apparent inhumanity, they are such well-made entities that they end up facing an inner-struggle - the sanctity of life, belief in a God, how best to resolve issues. The cynic can argue that the Cylons are merely programmed to respond like this in order to better their collective judgement and decision-making, but I disagree. Especially seeing as 2 of them have been put in cold-storage due to what their self-exploration has done to their character. They became "too human." It raises interesting possible future ethical dilemmas in regards to robot rights. Do we give robots rights for appearing 100% human, even though in reality they are not, and merely programmed to pretend to be? What's your verdict: evil, or making bad decisions as they explore themselves? I would have to concur with your viewpoint with regards to the cylons, I also think the humans are such a superficial race that a robot that looks cute or cuddly is likely to be treated differently to an evil looking robot regardless of its inner design or reason for operating. Like Helio's blind love for Boomer Sharon in the initial 2 seasons when she was still evil (she could still be evil now - we never know). | |
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ZombieKitten said: Spookymuffin said: But the original show was fracking awful. I read it in this book I just think the original had nothing like the depth of the current. I've tried so hard to get into it, but it's just kitsch. | |
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Spookymuffin said: ZombieKitten said: I read it in this book I just think the original had nothing like the depth of the current. I've tried so hard to get into it, but it's just kitsch. I had to go to bed at 8:30pm which is when it started, my mum let me watch the opening credits and that was all | |
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ZombieKitten said: Spookymuffin said: I just think the original had nothing like the depth of the current. I've tried so hard to get into it, but it's just kitsch. I had to go to bed at 8:30pm which is when it started, my mum let me watch the opening credits and that was all cruel! | |
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ZombieKitten said: Spookymuffin said: I just think the original had nothing like the depth of the current. I've tried so hard to get into it, but it's just kitsch. I had to go to bed at 8:30pm which is when it started, my mum let me watch the opening credits and that was all that happened with me with MASH | |
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jami0mckay said: ZombieKitten said: I had to go to bed at 8:30pm which is when it started, my mum let me watch the opening credits and that was all that happened with me with MASH That was a terrible show too! | |
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Spookymuffin said: jami0mckay said: I would have to concur with your viewpoint with regards to the cylons, I also think the humans are such a superficial race that a robot that looks cute or cuddly is likely to be treated differently to an evil looking robot regardless of its inner design or reason for operating. Like Helio's blind love for Boomer Sharon in the initial 2 seasons when she was still evil (she could still be evil now - we never know). things certailnly aren't as black and white as people think. anyway Ernest stop quoting Prince | |
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Who else finds Starbuck strangely attractive when she isn't really that hot?
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jami0mckay said: Spookymuffin said: Like Helio's blind love for Boomer Sharon in the initial 2 seasons when she was still evil (she could still be evil now - we never know). things certailnly aren't as black and white as people think. anyway Ernest stop quoting Prince You don't watch it, or have a clue what I'm talking about, do you? | |
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Spookymuffin said: jami0mckay said: things certailnly aren't as black and white as people think. anyway Ernest stop quoting Prince You don't watch it, or have a clue what I'm talking about, do you? I do watch but I'm only at the beginning of season two !! | |
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you know pavlov's dog? well I fall asleep when I hear the theme song from the new series. Came from trying to watch 5 episodes in one night | |
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jami0mckay said: Spookymuffin said: You don't watch it, or have a clue what I'm talking about, do you? I do watch but I'm only at the beginning of season two !! Get watching more! It's incredible! The end of season 2 is great. | |
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You know it's a slow day on the Org when a thread about robots from a geek TV show is the top thread in GD. | |
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ZombieKitten said: you know pavlov's dog? well I fall asleep when I hear the theme song from the new series. Came from trying to watch 5 episodes in one night
I always think if pavlov had a cat it would never have worked can't get yahoo to work | |
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Spookymuffin said: You know it's a slow day on the Org when a thread about robots from a geek TV show is the top thread in GD.
what! a thread about robots?! where! | |
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ZombieKitten said: Spookymuffin said: You know it's a slow day on the Org when a thread about robots from a geek TV show is the top thread in GD.
what! a thread about robots?! where! | |
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jami0mckay said: ZombieKitten said: what! a thread about robots?! where! you're all meanies, promising great things and not delivering | |
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ZombieKitten said: jami0mckay said: you're all meanies, promising great things and not delivering | |
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that looks like an old mac | |
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jami0mckay said: ZombieKitten said: you're all meanies, promising great things and not delivering That's my gif! | |
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Spookymuffin said: jami0mckay said: That's my gif! ooh is it? says its by dextered on photobucket...who's dextered??? | |
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jami0mckay said: Spookymuffin said: That's my gif! ooh is it? says its by dextered on photobucket...who's dextered??? The cartoon version of me! | |
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Spookymuffin said: jami0mckay said: ooh is it? says its by dextered on photobucket...who's dextered??? The cartoon version of me! are u on CBEEBIES? | |
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jami0mckay said: Spookymuffin said: The cartoon version of me! are u on CBEEBIES? Cartoon Network! | |
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