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Thread started 09/18/07 4:26pm

MoniGram

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A race you can never win!!

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?
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Reply #1 posted 09/18/07 4:27pm

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MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?


nod you just keep going ... you will win in the end. cuz there ain't nobody stronger or smarter ... just beat the odds hug
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Reply #2 posted 09/18/07 4:31pm

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One4All4Ever said:

MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?


nod you just keep going ... you will win in the end. cuz there ain't nobody stronger or smarter ... just beat the odds hug



But how can you beat the odds, when there is better out there holding you back??
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Reply #3 posted 09/18/07 4:32pm

One4All4Ever

MoniGram said:

One4All4Ever said:



nod you just keep going ... you will win in the end. cuz there ain't nobody stronger or smarter ... just beat the odds hug



But how can you beat the odds, when there is better out there holding you back??



you believe there is better ?
then you just lost the race ...
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Reply #4 posted 09/18/07 4:34pm

Justin1972UK

OMG! My favourite song at the moment is about this very subject. I posted about it in "Music: Non Prince" tonight - http://prince.org/msg/8/245421
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Reply #5 posted 09/18/07 4:36pm

retina

I think the important thing is to run your own race only. In that one you will always finish first.

It's easier said than done though, I know. hug
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Reply #6 posted 09/18/07 4:37pm

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MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?

comfort

yep...all the time....hug
tinkerbell
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Reply #7 posted 09/18/07 4:37pm

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One4All4Ever said:

MoniGram said:




But how can you beat the odds, when there is better out there holding you back??



you believe there is better ?
then you just lost the race ...


I am not sure if there is better, I am just starting to feel I can't win!
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Reply #8 posted 09/18/07 4:38pm

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Justin1972UK said:

OMG! My favourite song at the moment is about this very subject. I posted about it in "Music: Non Prince" tonight - http://prince.org/msg/8/245421



OMG Justin..that song sooo fits my mood right now!
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Reply #9 posted 09/18/07 4:39pm

One4All4Ever

MoniGram said:

One4All4Ever said:




you believe there is better ?
then you just lost the race ...


I am not sure if there is better, I am just starting to feel I can't win!


Moni
believe in urself
there is no better out there
you will win
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Reply #10 posted 09/18/07 4:39pm

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retina said:

I think the important thing is to run your own race only. In that one you will always finish first.

It's easier said than done though, I know. hug



What if you have been running your own race...then all of a sudden something or someone tosses in a few things that change your own race into something else?
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Reply #11 posted 09/18/07 4:39pm

retina

MoniGram said:

retina said:

I think the important thing is to run your own race only. In that one you will always finish first.

It's easier said than done though, I know. hug



What if you have been running your own race...then all of a sudden something or someone tosses in a few things that change your own race into something else?


Like what?
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Reply #12 posted 09/18/07 4:40pm

MoniGram

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One4All4Ever said:

MoniGram said:



I am not sure if there is better, I am just starting to feel I can't win!


Moni
believe in urself
there is no better out there
you will win
hug



I just don't know how to do that right now! I am just so tired!
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Reply #13 posted 09/18/07 4:40pm

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babooshleeky said:

MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?

comfort

yep...all the time....hug


How do you deal with it Chrissy?
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Reply #14 posted 09/18/07 4:41pm

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retina said:

MoniGram said:




What if you have been running your own race...then all of a sudden something or someone tosses in a few things that change your own race into something else?


Like what?



Like people, comments, actions
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Reply #15 posted 09/18/07 4:44pm

One4All4Ever

MoniGram said:

One4All4Ever said:



Moni
believe in urself
there is no better out there
you will win
hug



I just don't know how to do that right now! I am just so tired!


focus on your goal
don't bother about others
what do you believe qualifies the other as winners ?
I know there's a lot in you that would qualify you and put the others back
some meters... nod
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Reply #16 posted 09/18/07 4:45pm

Justin1972UK

MoniGram said:

Justin1972UK said:

OMG! My favourite song at the moment is about this very subject. I posted about it in "Music: Non Prince" tonight - http://prince.org/msg/8/245421


OMG Justin..that song sooo fits my mood right now!


It's fitted my mood for the last month.

I know exactly where you're coming from.

I find it odd that people are quite quick to decry materialism, but don't find it as bad to be overtly aspirational emotionally. Buying a self-help book is just as bad to me as having to have the latest iPod or plasma screen tv.

P.S. 'Pop Life' fits much the same mood with it's "Everybody can't be on top" lyric.
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Reply #17 posted 09/18/07 4:46pm

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One4All4Ever said:

MoniGram said:




I just don't know how to do that right now! I am just so tired!


focus on your goal
don't bother about others
what do you believe qualifies the other as winners ?
I know there's a lot in you that would qualify you and put the others back
some meters... nod



I don't know about that...I feel like this race is becoming an up hill battle! Is the race even worth winning, or hell even finishing?
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Reply #18 posted 09/18/07 4:46pm

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MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?



For sure, but in some cases I have decided that I just can't win everything - like make everyone happy. I don't see it as "oh the hell with it", I see it as realizing that trying to win some races is more detrimental than beneficial.
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Reply #19 posted 09/18/07 4:48pm

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JustErin said:

MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?



For sure, but in some cases I have decided that I just can't win everything - like make everyone happy. I don't see it as "oh the hell with it", I see it as realizing that trying to win some races is more detrimental than beneficial.


So maybe I should just focus on the ones I can win?
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Reply #20 posted 09/18/07 4:52pm

Justin1972UK

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So maybe I should just focus on the ones I can win?


I just focus on the ones I already have won.
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Reply #21 posted 09/18/07 4:53pm

retina

MoniGram said:

retina said:



Like what?



Like people, comments, actions


Well as I see it, the race metaphor just represents what you're comparing your achievements with. Is it other people's achievements or just your own goals for yourself? There's really no point in comparing them with the former because all we can expect of ourselves or anybody else is that each person makes the most of their own starting point, skills etc. A little guy who wrestles a regular guy to the ground is more impressive than a big guy who wrestles another big guy to the ground, you know what I mean?
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Reply #22 posted 09/18/07 4:53pm

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Justin1972UK said:

MoniGram said:



OMG Justin..that song sooo fits my mood right now!


It's fitted my mood for the last month.

I know exactly where you're coming from.

I find it odd that people are quite quick to decry materialism, but don't find it as bad to be overtly aspirational emotionally. Buying a self-help book is just as bad to me as having to have the latest iPod or plasma screen tv.

P.S. 'Pop Life' fits much the same mood with it's "Everybody can't be on top" lyric.
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I can see that!
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Reply #23 posted 09/18/07 4:55pm

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Justin1972UK said:

MoniGram said:

So maybe I should just focus on the ones I can win?


I just focus on the ones I already have won.


What if you haven't won any?
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Reply #24 posted 09/18/07 4:58pm

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retina said:

MoniGram said:




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Well as I see it, the race metaphor just represents what you're comparing your achievements with. Is it other people's achievements or just your own goals for yourself? There's really no point in comparing them with the former because all we can expect of ourselves or anybody else is that each person makes the most of their own starting point, skills etc. A little guy who wrestles a regular guy to the ground is more impressive than a big guy who wrestles another big guy to the ground, you know what I mean?



I do understand what you are saying...but what if the race is more personal then achievement wise?
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Reply #25 posted 09/18/07 4:58pm

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MoniGram said:

JustErin said:




For sure, but in some cases I have decided that I just can't win everything - like make everyone happy. I don't see it as "oh the hell with it", I see it as realizing that trying to win some races is more detrimental than beneficial.


So maybe I should just focus on the ones I can win?


No, you should just do what you can do, do all that you can do and be happy with the results.
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Reply #26 posted 09/18/07 4:59pm

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MoniGram said:

Has anyone ever felt like they are in a race that they can never win? That no matter what you do, or say, you will never be good enough to finish first? sad

How does one get past this feeling? Do you try and talk about it? Do you try and find a way to win the race? Or do you just say 'the hell with it' and let everyone get ahead of you?



Realize the race itself is crap. There is no such thing as someone getting ahead of you.
Le prego di non toccare la macchina per favore!
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Reply #27 posted 09/18/07 4:59pm

Justin1972UK

MoniGram said:

I just focus on the ones I already have won.


What if you haven't won any?[/quote]

I'm a great believer in the old adage that "the journey is the destination". If you know what I mean.
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Reply #28 posted 09/18/07 5:00pm

retina

MoniGram said:

retina said:



Well as I see it, the race metaphor just represents what you're comparing your achievements with. Is it other people's achievements or just your own goals for yourself? There's really no point in comparing them with the former because all we can expect of ourselves or anybody else is that each person makes the most of their own starting point, skills etc. A little guy who wrestles a regular guy to the ground is more impressive than a big guy who wrestles another big guy to the ground, you know what I mean?



I do understand what you are saying...but what if the race is more personal then achievement wise?


Then you should have picked another metaphor. wink

If you feel more comfortable asking about these things in org notes, then go ahead. I won't reveal any personal details you might share. hug
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Reply #29 posted 09/18/07 5:02pm

Justin1972UK

retina said:

If you feel more comfortable asking about these things in org notes, then go ahead.


Oh. I post allsorts here when I feel low.
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